CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #2

[GigTu]

<modsnip> We don't know anything more than what's been released to the public, and certainly the family knows far more than we. Everything discussed here is "what if's", because we know nothing. <modsnip>

However, if we did know more we would be able to dig and come up with new ideas that lead to actual tips. I urge someone from Will's life to become a verified insider, post here, and answer some of the answerable questions. Such as what year is the SUV in the video, just as an example. Obviously, some things cannot be divulged. Of course.

I know it doesn't ease the pain or rationalize anything, but discussing Will is all meant in the spirit of finding him and bringing him home. That is the number 1 priority. But to find him, we have to figure out where to look. And to do that, we have to get into the minds of those he was in contact with.

I also agree we should respect the privacy and emotional state of LC and not gawk. She did not ask for this and does not deserve the negative impacts coming from her husband being taken from her. And I am so sorry that this happened.

Thanks to anyone who has tried to help find him, in any capacity. He very much reminds me of someone I lost in my own life, and I ache at the idea that someone would hurt this sweet and gentle man. I just want him to make it home so there can be closure for those he loved, and who love him. He deserves that closure.

 

[GigTu]

We have no facts here, other than what's been presented by the media. We can only discuss theories here.

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[monkeypants]

Well isn't the point to get the case solved? If so does it matter if it is this forum, LE, amateur detectives, general public etc etc?

A defense attorney isn't going to gain any knowledge from WS, believe me. I sure wouldn't discourage people to assist because of that worry.
WS has cracked many cold cases....LE regularly reads thru these threads, as do the families, friends and yes the monsters responsible.

 

[physco219]

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4 PM - WC calls LC
5:06 PM - SUV backs into driveway and leaves approx. 6 minutes later
6 PM - LC calls WC and he does not answer
7 PM - Linda arrives home and WC is gone

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Do we know more about the afternoon phone call? Time? Conversation? The 4pm call...Conversation? 6pm call one that wasn't answered...What call for? Was it something that could wait til LC got home? Other questions...Was stove on or warm? Did LC always call so much? Was dinner stuff all in the house (did WC need a ride to get other ingredients?) Was ANYTHING missing (meds, dinner (did WC eat before LC or always wait?) Just thinking out loud...Any extra help with answers would be great...Prayers continue.



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[OGMaDeuce]

Well isn't the point to get the case solved? If so does it matter if it is this forum, LE, amateur detectives, general public etc etc?

A defense attorney isn't going to gain any knowledge from WS, believe me. I sure wouldn't discourage people to assist because of that worry.
WS has cracked many cold cases....LE regularly reads thru these threads, as do the families, friends and yes the monsters responsible.

You are absolutely correct...
Getting this case solved is important.
And I am all for it!
My frustration is multifaceted.
The person responsible for removing Will from his home knows what happened.
I believe that person has an attorney, and isn't talking.
LE cannot release details- for so many understandable reasons.
This means that we are left to what we know, or what the media has shared with us.
I cannot release any information that isn't already public knowledge.
And I'm not sure how to frame my questions and answers so as not to jeopardize the outcome of any legal proceedings.
I'm not interested in solving this case, certainly not from behind a screen anyway.
I am invested in finding Will and bringing him home to Linda.
I wish I could accurately describe the hellish agony that Will's disappearance has caused her- It is visible, and painful- and she is a beautiful, devoted, and sweet woman.
I apologize for coming off like a *****-
We are tired, frustrated and determined.

 

[GigTu]

Is it possible to locate Will with the limited clues available to us currently?

 

[Razz]

You are absolutely correct...
Getting this case solved is important.
And I am all for it!
My frustration is multifaceted.
The person responsible for removing Will from his home knows what happened.
I believe that person has an attorney, and isn't talking.
LE cannot release details- for so many understandable reasons.
This means that we are left to what we know, or what the media has shared with us.
I cannot release any information that isn't already public knowledge.
And I'm not sure how to frame my questions and answers so as not to jeopardize the outcome of any legal proceedings.
I'm not interested in solving this case, certainly not from behind a screen anyway.
I am invested in finding Will and bringing him home to Linda.
I wish I could accurately describe the hellish agony that Will's disappearance has caused her- It is visible, and painful- and she is a beautiful, devoted, and sweet woman.
I apologize for coming off like a *****-
We are tired, frustrated and determined.

Can you tell us why this individual took Will out of his home or what may have happened inside his home?

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[Steph9676]

I completely agree with you, people should definitely be respectful of Will and his family which I believe we all have. Everyone here has been very respectful and I believe genuinely care about everyone involved. There are only 3 locals on this thread I am aware of you and I being 2 of them. I am home all day with a 3 month old and would never even think to go by his house. There arent enough locals on this thread to create any kind of traffic. Not suggesting youre being accusatory just want you to know it isn't us, there are a lot of locals who arent involved in ws that are aware of Will being missing.


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I am also local to this case and I have not ever thought of driving by. That must be really hard on Linda and I'm sorry she has to deal with that.

 

[kshultz06082]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...n-Process-for-Professional-or-Insider-Posters

There is also an ignore button for those who are not aware

Did I miss something?

 

[SmartSassyBBW]

I live in this neighborhood and drive by there at times doing my daily errands. It is one house off if a busy entrance street and can be used as a thru street to other exits. Unless someone is parking out front or going 10 mph I don't know how someone driving by could be interpreted as harassment. I can understand how every car driving by could feel as it might be "the one". The one bringing Will home. The one bringing LE with bad news. The one coming to get you too. That, I can totally get. I'm sure that every family who has ended up in the news feels vulnerable to the prying eyes of the public.
If you are a friend of the family you should suggest they get a Ring type video doorbell installed to screen the front door area to feel more secure. There has been a lot of activity on Neighborhood.com recently in our area, of people going around trying car doors at 1-4 am. Also stealing packages off of porches.


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[GigTu]

I live in this neighborhood and drive by there at times doing my daily errands. It is one house off if a busy entrance street and can be used as a thru street to other exits. Unless someone is parking out front or going 10 mph I don't know how someone driving by could be interpreted as harassment. I can understand how every car driving by could feel as it might be "the one". The one bringing Will home. The one bringing LE with bad news. The one coming to get you too. That, I can totally get. I'm sure that every family who has ended up in the news feels vulnerable to the prying eyes of the public.
If you are a friend of the family you should suggest they get a Ring type video doorbell installed to screen the front door area to feel more secure. There has been a lot of activity on Neighborhood.com recently in our area, of people going around trying car doors at 1-4 am. Also stealing packages off of porches.

You never realize how many pregnant women there are walking around until you or a loved one is pregnant. Then you see them everywhere. I akin the supposed increase in traffic to that. The slowing could be related to the vehicle approaching the stop sign. We don't know. I hope no one is gawking, and I'm will grant that maybe one or two people could have driven by with that intent, but it's highly unlikely every vehicle going down the street is even aware Will is missing. It's been stated multiple times that a lot of locals still have no idea.

 

[Dushi]

I will patiently await a press conference, which will come when and if there is a anything of importance to report.
That is really the only official source as far as I am concerned.
That and anything Linda has stated.
The rest is hearsay, rumor or bad reporting
I don't think Le would share anything until they are ready for the public to know.
Its not easy to keep secrets and nobody wants the outcome to be jeoprodized by loose lips

 

[SmartSassyBBW]

someone could have left thru the garage too. you can't see the garage door from the footage released.
i wish we knew whether or not the nephew backed into the driveway when he was there earlier in the day. there is usually a reason to back in like that.

I had mentioned earlier that the location of their house near a corner would make pulling out of the driveway backwards unsafe. The cars that are parked in their driveway since his disappearance more often than not are parked heading out. If I lived there I would also back in to be able to safely pull out safely into traffic coming around that corner.


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[hippylove]

Has there been any mention of Will's brother, the father of the nephew, as far as giving any comments or helping with the searches? I know his sister was at the press conference and I think I read that he has multiple siblings. Just wondering if there has been any information from his brother given his relationship to the nephew.

 

[GigTu]

Nephew and his father have been silent as far as I know.

 

[xmsmadex]

Still nothing, breaks my heart. We're still thinking if you Will and hope to find you soon.

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[Dushi]

Still nothing, breaks my heart. We're still thinking if you Will and hope to find you soon.

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Well said xsmadex
I so want to keep this thread alive, but not sure it is welcomed
i will watch over Will till he comes home
With all my heart and soul

 

[xmsmadex]

Well said xsmadex
I so want to keep this thread alive, but not sure it is welcomed
i will watch over Will till he comes home
With all my heart and soul

Thank you, I know its how we all feel. I hope we can keep it alive but its now been a month since anything has been reported. Makes me so sad. Hopefully they find something to keep the case going.

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[LisaWL7TR]

Well said xsmadex
I so want to keep this thread alive, but not sure it is welcomed
i will watch over Will till he comes home
With all my heart and soul

Exactly, a man with his daily life seldoms just disappears like this...doesn't make sense...Will, where are you?

 

[Spartygirl]

Just checking in to see if there are any updates..but sadly, no updates.
I will continue to keep checking but I honestly am at a standstill with this one.
As mentioned above, his life style appeared to be very quiet and simple with nothing major going on. So how does one who lives a simple life just disappear?? and Why??
Praying we get an update soon !!