Cal-Sag Channel Search #2

[Dobler]

Bless these searchers, I feel so thankful that they are so dedicated. I hope they find what they need to soon. I think they will.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Randy, thanks for the photos. I have a question about the photo which shows the bank and a cement piece under the overpass. It has a bright pink dot painted on it...is this significant in the search? It doesn't appear to be random like graffiti. Any idea?

 

[donnam]

Randy, thanks for the photos. I have a question about the photo which shows the bank and a cement piece under the overpass. It has a bright pink dot painted on it...is this significant in the search? It doesn't appear to be random like graffiti. Any idea?

I wondered about that myself. Looked to be like some sort of "marker".

 

[ThoughtFox]

RandyMucha: Thanks so much for the pictures - it looks so bitterly cold! I can't even imagine getting into the water.

Where exactly were those pictures taken? I mean, which road goes over that bridge? I'd like to look at it on Google Earth again and try to get another map.

 

[RandyMucha]

Here are today’s pics from the canal:
http://www.randymucha.com/canal2.htm

 

[RandyMucha]

Randy, thanks for the photos. I have a question about the photo which shows the bank and a cement piece under the overpass. It has a bright pink dot painted on it...is this significant in the search? It doesn't appear to be random like graffiti. Any idea?

No idea, sorry.

 

[SuziQ]

Here are today’s pics from the canal:
[URL="http://www.randymucha.com/canal2.htm"]http://www.randymucha.com/canal2.htm[/URL]

Randy, those are great pictures, thank you!

 

[SuziQ]

Randy, would you mind posting all of your pics into the Picture thread? Thanks!

 

[DeltaDawn]

Here are today’s pics from the canal:
[URL="http://www.randymucha.com/canal2.htm"]http://www.randymucha.com/canal2.htm[/URL]

Randy those are wonderful shots of the area.

Is Leo's in that same general area too?

Also the area looks like it would be quite secluded and dark on a Sunday evening at 11PM.

 

[RandyMucha]

Randy those are wonderful shots of the area.

Is Leo's in that same general area too?

Also the area looks like it would be quite secluded and dark on a Sunday evening at 11PM.

Leos is just about 2-3 blocks away.

 

[RandyMucha]

Randy, would you mind posting all of your pics into the Picture thread? Thanks!

I can't find the picture thread. Can you direct me or send me a link?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Leos is just about 2-3 blocks away.

That is interesting.

 

[DeltaDawn]

So if Drew met Steve there for drinks often..then he was probably very familiar with this area of town at night.

Could it be that he took Tom from the coffee shop, home to load up the denali, then dropped Tom at the airport to drive Stacy's car and then had Tom meet him at LEO's. Maybe Tom now tells Drew he thinks he knows what's in the box or barrel and Drew says yes...then Drew starts plying him with drinks. Then Drew takes Tom home..meets his other nameless accompice at the parking lot to Leo's. They dispose of the body..they follow Drew back to the airport..leave Stacy's car there again. Drew drives back to Leo's drops off the other accomplice and hands him some cash. They part company. Drew drives the Denali home and then walks to the airport to get Stacy's car and jumps in bed.

Really haven't worked thru this yet in my mind but I am thining that somehow Drew and Thomas end up at Leo's drinking..Drew supplying the rounds. Because Thomas has been off alcohol for years..then suddenly shows up st his neighbors house saying he'd been
drinking and the story of Stacy's body possibly in the container he helped move from the house.

If Thomas had not been drinking in years, then he would not have had any booze in his house. Someone supplied that booze and that had to be Drew. Drew would not have sat at home drinking with Thomas because the kids are home and they would hear anything that might be said. I think he took Thomas to LEO's afterwards for a couple of drinks hoping that would ruin Thomas' memory of things and discredit Thomas at the same time. Plus he is visibly in one more place where people could id him..not home murdering his wife.

 

[Camper]

I can't find the picture thread. Can you direct me or send me a link?

--->>>Here's the link for the picture thread.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56028

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[robthomaseyes]

With Drew's lock picking abilities, has anyone ever searched inside of Leo's?

I know that searches were conducted on the property of Leo's outside...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think Drew had time to take Tom to Leo's that night. While I haven't heard any more about the video in KK, the timeline that has come out thus far doesn't support it. They don't serve drinks at KK and Tom was at the neighbor's house around tenish.

Did they ever search the Kennedy property where Stacy and Bruce were going to paint as the owner requested? Still haven't heard of this search, if so.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Well depending on the timeline we have been given through leaks etc..it maybe just enough off to not support that info SS.

I am thinking that Drew had to give Tom the booze because Tom would not have had any in his house. Also the pills I am sure Drew provided to Tom so he could possibly od. Drew reads people very well, especially those close to him.

Maybe the timeline is off just enough for that little trip to LEO's to take place. The car moving may not have been that neccessary at that point. The car was already at the airport (per Drew saying that is where Stacy told him she left it)..so maybe it never was returned until after Drew disposed of the body.

But I also want to ask who was the person and what blog where we first heard of Drew's brother trying to commit suicide after the event. It was very early on and I am thinking whoever that was, I would love to read their more recent posts. Was it Greta, Steve's or Cassandra's? When that was put out there it was not beleived ..now we know it was true...maybe they have shared more info and we weren't aware?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

If Tom had been clean for ten years, it doesn't mean that his girlfriend didn't drink or have anti-depressants available in the home. Drew didn't have to be the one giving him either one of those substances.

Walter didn't say that Tom was drunk! Only that he had been drinking! He could have had a shot or two at his house in a matter of a few seconds for all we know. It would account for the smell of alcohol on his breath.

 

[DeltaDawn]

If Tom had been clean for ten years, it doesn't mean that his girlfriend didn't drink or have anti-depressants available in the home. Drew didn't have to be the one giving him either one of those substances.

Walter didn't say that Tom was drunk! Only that he had been drinking! He could have had a shot or two at his house in a matter of a few seconds for all we know. It would account for the smell of alcohol on his breath.

That's what I thought too SS at first...but now I am thinking the way Drew's mind works he would have wanted to assure no one believing Tom and giving him alcohol and pills was a ready answer. If Tom was upset enough to go home and have drinks after 10 years ..I think Drew would have picked up on that..counted on that...that's why he chose Tom.

Drew just never thought the neighbor would come forward to defend Tom and say that Tom is a fine respectful person who would not make up something like this. Remember in the past Tom had also wanted to please Drew according to Kattleen's nephew that worked with Tom at the bar Drew owned. So Drew felt safe in chosing Tom for this part of the deed.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

But I also want to ask who was the person and what blog where we first heard of Drew's brother trying to commit suicide after the event. It was very early on and I am thinking whoever that was, I would love to read their more recent posts. Was it Greta, Steve's or Cassandra's? When that was put out there it was not beleived ..now we know it was true...maybe they have shared more info and we weren't aware?

I went over the first two threads and didn't find the posts reporting Tom's suicide attempt. Maybe someone else can check that out!