Can Casey benefit from therapy?

[donnam]

Doesn't matter to me if she has treatment or not. CAYLEE will be still be dead.

 

[miss plum]

It's truly incredible that we have all become so accustomed to her grotesque worldview that we are calmly discussing how she is apparently TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO BE REWARDED FOR THE HORRIBLE DEATH OF HER OWN CHILD.

 

[Caligram]

I keep thinking that "you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig".

Or how about ~ When Pigs Fly ~~~~~~


:noooo: :eye: :shocked2: :noooo:

 

[Caligram]

Here is an interesting article that I came across regarding this topic:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/dr-judy-doubts-casey-anthonys-penchant-lying-cured/story?id=14100871

<snipped>Casey Anthony's lawyers have said that Anthony has suffered "trauma" and will need counseling now that she is a free woman, but experts aren't sure Anthony can be helped.

"It would be exceptionally difficult for anybody to treat her. There is no magic pill that's a truth serum for a person who's a pathological liar," said Judy Kuriansky a psychologist from Columbia University, but better known from her radio show as Dr. Judy.

Kuriansky believes that Anthony likely feels that she has been rewarded for her lying with her acquittal and release from jail.


<snipped>"It's really hard to treat," Wish said. "You can't say it's impossible, but it's very difficult."

"These are people that cannot withstand very much self-examination, but you can work on emotional regulation and helping them understand and see [things] differently," Wish said. "It's a very small rope of balancing emotions and thinking."

BBM: that's what I vote for "The Truth Serum".

 

[Ricki]

TMZ is reporting that Casey won't do any interviews until she has had some treatment to deal with issues related to:

1. inappropriate behavior when Caylee was "missing"

2. mourning the death of Caylee

3. the effects of solitary confinement

Do you think this is true, and if it is, can Casey benefit, since it is believed that sociopaths and psychopaths cannot be "cured"?

Or is this just another scam?

So, we have all these reasons for therapy for MS. Anthony. The DF team claimed she was molested by her father and brother during OS. Why would they not seek therapy for that issue(if you believed it ever occured)You would think molestation(I do not believe it occured) would be a huge reason to get therapy, yet it is not mentioned. Could we say with confidence that the DF opening statement was false? I think we can.JMO

 

[beccalecca1]

I believe Casey could benefit from therapy because I disagree that she is sociopathic or psychopathic. I believe though that she would have to go into an inpatient treatment facility to re-learn how to be a productive member of society. I think the role models in her life were poor ones, so anything productive/constructive couldn't be anything but good.

I don't like that Casey isn't allowed to breathe without the general public wanting to psychoanalyze her breathing patterns, whether or not she did breathe, or is her claim to breathing all a scam. I can't understand that hatred, but that's just me.

I also don't like that gossip is being relied upon TMZ. TMZ claims to have video of Casey Anthony stepping off her private jet with a corona in hand, but doesn't want to release the video? Oh come on now, lets call a scam a scam. If any news/gossip reporting organization had any dirt at all on Casey Anthony, with the proof included; there isn't a doubt in my mind that it would be "BREAKING NEWS: CASEY ANTHONY DRINKS CORONA" with the video playing in the background... commentary of "de plane, de plane" and all. But yet, we're getting one liner statements and nothing to back it up. And the appalling thing to me is people are actually running with that! If his was CNN, FOX news, ABC, etc; I wouldn't be arguing this. But it's TMZ. That's as comparable as the National Enquirer to me and they still haven't proved Elvis is alive.

Just my :twocents:

 

[gamom]

i have a question - does anyone here think casey shouldn't get therapy? i feel a lot of posts here seem to be suggesting this, and i really hope i'm wrong about that.

Agree completely. I think it's a defense ploy that is leading her to therapy like every post here. However, that being said, she NEEDs some kind of help. Something is not right with her and in all honesty if someone would have gotten her help earlier Caylee may have still been alive.

 

[natsound]

I believe Casey could benefit from therapy because I disagree that she is sociopathic or psychopathic. I believe though that she would have to go into an inpatient treatment facility to re-learn how to be a productive member of society. I think the role models in her life were poor ones, so anything productive/constructive couldn't be anything but good.

I don't like that Casey isn't allowed to breathe without the general public wanting to psychoanalyze her breathing patterns, whether or not she did breathe, or is her claim to breathing all a scam. I can't understand that hatred, but that's just me.

I also don't like that gossip is being relied upon TMZ. TMZ claims to have video of Casey Anthony stepping off her private jet with a corona in hand, but doesn't want to release the video? Oh come on now, lets call a scam a scam. If any news/gossip reporting organization had any dirt at all on Casey Anthony, with the proof included; there isn't a doubt in my mind that it would be "BREAKING NEWS: CASEY ANTHONY DRINKS CORONA" with the video playing in the background... commentary of "de plane, de plane" and all. But yet, we're getting one liner statements and nothing to back it up. And the appalling thing to me is people are actually running with that! If his was CNN, FOX news, ABC, etc; I wouldn't be arguing this. But it's TMZ. That's as comparable as the National Enquirer to me and they still haven't proved Elvis is alive.

Just my :twocents:

Bold by me... I agree. I won't believe it till I see it.

 

[Kavya01]

~ sprays morning tea all over the monitor.~

IMHPO: No.

Her counseling team ( am sure she arranged for a "team" so she can split and manipulate again) MAY benefit. Society at large will not.
KTCA will adore the attention but nothing else about it.
and truly: society AT LARGE will not benefit ONE Iota
Who will be paying for this KTCA "latest hobby"?

 

[natsound]

i have a question - does anyone here think casey shouldn't get therapy? i feel a lot of posts here seem to be suggesting this, and i really hope i'm wrong about that.

I think what KC needs is prison time. That's where she should be. Now that she's out, she's a danger to herself and to others, whether she gets therapy or not. I'm one to believe that any amount of therapy won't change who she is. She killed her daughter in cold blood, and has never had a conscience about it.

How do you think therapy will benefit her? Just asking, not attacking :innocent:

 

[mac66]

Regarding the above mentioned TMZ report. I understood this as saying TMZ had SEEN the video and were not willing to pay for it, so they do not have possession of the video. If CA is able to be honest with her therapist, it probably could be helpful for her. It won't help Caylee a damn bit.

 

[Just K]

TMZ is just a show. It is not a network. Although they are basically a paparazzi parody group, they were the very first to announce that MJ was dead. They said it first because they had a cameraman there as MJ was wheeled out of his mansion. They somehow do get it right most of the time. In this case, the report is simply that someone shopped or showed them the Corona video and they declined purchase but freely reported having seen it.

 

[beccalecca1]

Casey Anthony hit the bottle minutes after being released from jail ... TMZ has learned.

TMZ has seen video of Casey getting off a private jet in Florida, hours after she ended her stint behind bars. The video shows Casey holding a half-empty Corona beer bottle.

Casey is smiling as she deplanes. Her former lawyer, Todd Macaluso, is also on board. At one point Casey is heard saying, "I concur" -- a little legalese she probably picked up from her legal team.

Laughter erupts as someone screams, "De Plane, De Plane."

The video is being shopped around by Casey's people, along with anything else that isn't nailed down.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/27/casey...r-todd-macaluso-released-jail-caylee-florida/

I don't see their decline in purchasing the video. The other night on NG, when this was released (Diane Diamond was replacing NG) it was stated that they're not airing the video at this time, but to basically stay tuned.

 

[charok]

TMZ is just a show. It is not a network. Although they are basically a paparazzi parody group, they were the very first to announce that MJ was dead. They said it first because they had a cameraman there as MJ was wheeled out of his mansion. They somehow do get it right most of the time. In this case, the report is simply that someone shopped or showed them the Corona video and they declined purchase but freely reported having seen it.

i agree...tmz and ne sometimes DO get it right...dangling the carrot, they have the video but not releasing it/ why not????
i KNEW minute she was on that plane, she would be drinking SOMETHING( mixed drink, champagne, beer...what ever=after all there is bella vita to make up for right?) corona light? i guess she must be getting ready for her close up w/ hustler :sick:-got all those commisary snacks to work off before that happens.

she needs time to mourn her daughter? IMO-by the prison letters to cookie, she more missed eating thai food and doing her nails/ missed the joys of being a lady...sounds like she already got over caylee, hence the mission to work w/ missing kids and ( god forbid) adoption.

 

[askfornina]

I think what KC needs is prison time. That's where she should be. Now that she's out, she's a danger to herself and to others, whether she gets therapy or not. I'm one to believe that any amount of therapy won't change who she is. She killed her daughter in cold blood, and has never had a conscience about it.

How do you think therapy will benefit her? Just asking, not attacking :innocent:

thank you for your reply i don't know how therapy would benefit her because i don't know her. i don't know what she is thinking. i don't know what's wrong with her. to my knowledge she has not been diagnosed with any mental illness. do you think therapy would have a negative impact?

the fact that she is out makes me want her to get therapy even more. if she is a danger to society, YES i believe she needs therapy. even if it doesn't work. even if it's for the "wrong reasons." even if it has no positive impact whatsoever. imo it very obviously needs to happen. accident, murder, whatever. i just don't see how therapy would be a bad thing.

 

[natsound]

thank you for your reply i don't know how therapy would benefit her because i don't know her. i don't know what she is thinking. i don't know what's wrong with her. to my knowledge she has not been diagnosed with any mental illness. do you think therapy would have a negative impact?

the fact that she is out makes me want her to get therapy even more. if she is a danger to society, YES i believe she needs therapy. even if it doesn't work. even if it's for the "wrong reasons." even if it has no positive impact whatsoever. imo it very obviously needs to happen. accident, murder, whatever. i just don't see how therapy would be a bad thing.

Therapy will not be a bad thing for KC, you're right. But there's a strong possibility that she will get herself in trouble, or possibly cause harm to someone else, before therapy can have a positive and productive effect on her (IF it can have a positive effect). I see the Van der Sloot effect occurring here, unfortunately, since KC seems to have no conscience. In other words, if killing Caylee is eating away at her on any subconscious level, I see her purging herself by striking again in some form.

But who knows? I thought there was NO WAY KC would walk free, and she did, so anything could happen.

 

[2goldfish]

thank you for your reply i don't know how therapy would benefit her because i don't know her. i don't know what she is thinking. i don't know what's wrong with her. to my knowledge she has not been diagnosed with any mental illness. do you think therapy would have a negative impact?

the fact that she is out makes me want her to get therapy even more. if she is a danger to society, YES i believe she needs therapy. even if it doesn't work. even if it's for the "wrong reasons." even if it has no positive impact whatsoever. imo it very obviously needs to happen. accident, murder, whatever. i just don't see how therapy would be a bad thing.

my bold, just to point out therapy isnt always helpful for the whole productive member of society thing...

another poster, I forget who in what thread, brought up serial killer ed kemper whom I did not know...so I googled him yesterday while trying to get out of packing cause I am moving tomorrow *blush*

at age 15 he shot & killed his gparents, spent (I think) 5 years in mental hospital buddy-buddying with the psychs to the point he was an assistent for one of them and even helped standardise portions of the MMPI :sick: .....he learned enough to know what answers they look for and used them during psych evals ever after, convincing the psychs he was perfectly normal & no harm to self or others.

course he knew perfectly well there was plenty wrong with him and went on to murder quite a few others before turning himself in.

interesting unlike FCA he appeared to show quite a bit of remorse. he is aware that he is broken. just an interesting comparison of personalities to me.

 

[Just K]

thank you for your reply i don't know how therapy would benefit her because i don't know her. i don't know what she is thinking. i don't know what's wrong with her. to my knowledge she has not been diagnosed with any mental illness. do you think therapy would have a negative impact?

the fact that she is out makes me want her to get therapy even more. if she is a danger to society, YES i believe she needs therapy. even if it doesn't work. even if it's for the "wrong reasons." even if it has no positive impact whatsoever. imo it very obviously needs to happen. accident, murder, whatever. i just don't see how therapy would be a bad thing.

If you believe, as a vast number of people do, that the felon is also a sociopath then studies have shown that psychotherapy does little to change their behavior and has been shown to offer the sociopath even more tools or skills to work their manipulative trade...that is the ability to perfect the art of pulling the wool over people's eyes, robbing them blind, and/or acquiring sympathy and assistance both practically and financially.

Many feel that she would only use her new "coping" skills to defraud even more people then she already has.
Just read the summaries for each of the links listed in a google search "sociopaths and therapy."
[ame="http://www.google.com/search?q=sociopaths+and+therapy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a"]sociopaths and therapy - Google Search[/ame]

 

[askfornina]

Therapy will not be a bad thing for KC, you're right. But there's a strong possibility that she will get herself in trouble, or possibly cause harm to someone else, before therapy can have a positive and productive effect on her (IF it can have a positive effect). I see the Van der Sloot effect occurring here, unfortunately, since KC seems to have no conscience. In other words, if killing Caylee is eating away at her on any subconscious level, I see her purging herself by striking again in some form.

But who knows? I thought there was NO WAY KC would walk free, and she did, so anything could happen.

you could very well be right. and if you are right, that cannot be helped at this point, sadly. but if therapy even has the slight possibility of helping, please please please god let her get it.

imagine if some stranger on the street told casey "you will never benefit from therapy." i don't think that would help the situation positively. basically my point is (as i've said maybe 4 times now lol), i don't know what casey's problem is. i am not prepared to say that therapy would not benefit her, based on the information i have.

 

[askfornina]

If you believe, as a vast number of people do, that the felon is also a sociopath then studies have shown that psychotherapy does little to change their behavior and has been shown to offer the sociopath even more tools or skills to work their manipulative trade...that is the ability to perfect the art of pulling the wool over people's eyes, robbing them blind, and/or acquiring sympathy and assistance both practically and financially.

Many feel that she would only use her new "coping" skills to defraud even more people then she already has.
Just read the summaries for each of the links listed in a google search "sociopaths and therapy."
sociopaths and therapy - Google Search

you very well may be right. however, my point (again, just so it's clear ) is that i do not know what her diagnosis is. i direct you to all my other posts in this thread.