Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #14

[kaley]

I was just about to post the article. Guess someone beat me to it. Can't wait for more details.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

Fisk Creek also runs along residential housing in a community called Douglasdale, some of it that I have seen is just a simple path with trees, part of it has dense forest and some is wide open and it runs along the river.

Here is CTV's take...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/body-pulled-from-bow-river-at-fish-creek-park-1.2751675

So we now know it is a deceased male . Age not known.
To my thinking, the body could have travelled down stream from any one of many areas north of Fish Creek Bow River.

 

[LoisLane]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_Creek_Provincial_Park#mediaviewer/File:Calgary_street_map.pnghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_Creek_Provincial_Park
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Where is Parkhill on the map? Fish Creek Prov Park is at the bottom of map.

Closer to Macleod and 17th Ave.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

This picture is strange. I hope we here something today.

Why do you think this picture is strange LL?
Well, we know its a male.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

It leaves me feeling uneasy LL. I see divers, LE, photographer (ME ?). I am not from Alberta and looked at the map of Fish Creek Provincial Park and to me the waterway is connected to a larger water source but if body travelled down stream it was a long route. Otherwise, could have been brought to the Park. Just don't know and feeling uneasy. Again LL, thanks for finding the article.

Could be a suicide.

 

[LoisLane]

Why do you think this picture is strange LL?
Well, we know its a male.

I don't know that it is from a live shot of yesterday or an archived photo. That is all.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

The accused in this mass murder does not have mental disabilities, or mental illness.

He has mental health issues ... he's nuts, not disabled, or ill.

ADHD is not a thing that causes people to commit murder, so why should it be considered during the murder trial?

lol...what category does "nuts" fall under Otto? lol There are so many factors that could cause someone to go sideways. Improper diagnosis, improper medication, no medication, comorbid illnesses that are perhaps undiagnosed, increased stress, lots of things, and they would be particular to that person, not everyone presents the same when they're nuts...that would be for the forensic Psychiatrist to figure out.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

Could be a suicide.

I would have to disagree Tinkerbel, suicide by drowning? It states in reports the body was in the water and tangled amongst trees at the shoreline. Suicide seems unlikely imo respectfully.

 

[LoisLane]

Here is a link to pics of Mallard Point, Fish Creek Park

http://calgaryarea.com/index.php?p=parks&c=Fishcreek - Mallardpoint

 

[LoriMcA]

Travel time from 38A Ave (L's street) To Mallard Point, approx 18 min. The Bow runs south with numerous streets crossing over all along to the east there....

 

[Deleted member 117120]

I don't know that it is from a live shot of yesterday or an archived photo. That is all.

LL I think the pic was from yesterday as the report said divers, Medical Examiner and LE on scene and that appears to be who is there as I see camera on the women dressed in civilian clothing.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

Travel time from 38A Ave (L's street) To Mallard Point, approx 18 min. The Bow runs south with numerous streets crossing over all along to the east there....

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Thanks Lori. I think if this is related the body or bodies could have been put in the water anywhere along that route? or travelled down stream.
Lori, great map thanks.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

For those WS local, have there been any missing persons reported in Edmonton, Calgary of late? I don't recall seeing any.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

I would have to disagree Tinkerbel, suicide by drowning? It states in reports the body was in the water and tangled amongst trees at the shoreline. Suicide seems unlikely imo respectfully.

Oh, well alright. In Edmonton, we have had suicides by drowning, people have jumped off the high level bridge, definitely more than once. My great uncle was one of them many, many years ago...seems he was drunk, and jumped. I think that a body in the water would eventually bloat and come to the surface. Not so unusual for it to float and get snagged by trees...that's exactly how a body came up at the lake when I was young. I don't think it's that unlikely at all.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

Oh, well alright. In Edmonton, we have had suicides by drowning, people have jumped off the high level bridge, definitely more than once. My great uncle was one of them many, many years ago...seems he was drunk, and jumped. I think that a body in the water would eventually bloat and come to the surface. Not so unusual for it to float and get snagged by trees...that's exactly how a body came up at the lake when I was young. I don't think it's that unlikely at all.

Yes, I didn't think of a jumper for some reason Tinkerbell. So yes, possible suicide related.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

None of the msm reports indicate that the Homicide unit was called in yesterday to Bow River area.

 

[LoriMcA]

Thanks Lori. I think if this is related the body or bodies could have been put in the water anywhere along that route? or travelled down stream.

Well according to the map routes for driving to Mallard Point from 38A ave., there are 3 choices of best route this being the fastest apparently. My guess would be *JMOO* if this is related to this case...there are a lot of streets to the east of this route...that cross over the Bow...if you were going to go east.

So, my guess...if this case is involved...a body would have probably been dumped upstream somewhere along a route home for the accused...and it travelled downstream....as I said...JMOO & of course if it is related to this case

 

[Deleted member 117120]

Does anyone think it telling that no announcements have been made from LE about the deceased? The body was recovered at 3pm yesterday by medical examiner. Although if it is related the body could be difficult to examine with the amount of time that has passed. If it was a drowning I would assume an announcement would have been made. If it was a jumper as Tinkerbell suggested, I think an announcement would have been made as well. Just thinking outloud is all....

 

[Female]

Does anyone think it telling that no announcements have been made from LE about the deceased? The body was recovered at 3pm yesterday by medical examiner. Although if it is related the body could be difficult to examine with the amount of time that has passed. If it was a drowning I would assume an announcement would have been made. If it was a jumper as Tinkerbell suggested, I think an announcement would have been made as well. Just thinking outloud is all....

One of the news reports said ME was unlikely to release more info until Tuesday due to the long weekend.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Strangely there's this article also, man in critical condition pulled from Bow River, maybe a couple guys on a boat? As bad as it sounds I was hoping it was one of the trio so the family can have closure. Might not be the case, but we'll wait and see….
http://www.calgaryherald.com/rescued+from+River/10164040/story.html