Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #17

[stan laurel]

I believe this wasn't planned but actually happened. JO made the comment at the memorial and said it was a day she'll never forget about the movie, take out and group hug.

Very good questions about details. The sale ended at 7pm I think, I would think they would've ate right after that as most people would be starving after such a busy day.

DG did fluke out alright which is why I don't think dismemberment was planned nor happened... at least at Parkhill.

so the Chinese was before and with JO, aha!

so he was waiting for her to leave which means he/they were casing the house from estate sale ending to jo leaving?

 

[stan laurel]

Ha ha ha - it still could if it was Chipotle eh Stan!

a food style that can't be pronounced in English. the steak was cooked with my own onions and potatoes in a frying pan with some bolettes a friend had picked recently. it has all since moved.

 

[otto]

As well I would like one for press conferences. Especially the ones that wendiesan has contributed.

I suggested early on to Wendisan that she post her transcripts there too (on the media thread), and I think several of them were added - although I haven't checked recently.

 

[stan laurel]

There's already a thread, and it's linked on Page 1 of every thread:

*Media, Maps & Timeline*
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ia-Maps-amp-Timeline*&p=10713927#post10713927

What needs to happen is that we add the information to the thread.

yes I know that but they are more touching points or header links from msm,, I'm sure sillybilly would but it is very time consuming within regular life as such, storing nuts for winter, battening down the hatches, bringing the cattle in from lease, decorating for Halloween, off loading U2 from an Iphone6,, not enough time in the day.

 

[LoisLane]

so the Chinese was before and with JO, aha!

so he was waiting for her to leave which means he/they were casing the house from estate sale ending to jo leaving?

I think so. Only he/they did a horrible job of it because he/they did not watch JO load two children into the vehicle, only 1. Unless that person(s) was aware that JO only loaded one child into the vehicle.

 

[stan laurel]

I think so. Only he/they did a horrible job of it because he/they did not watch JO load two children into the vehicle, only 1. Unless that person(s) was aware that JO only loaded one child into the vehicle.

so they/he watched from a distance for the vehicle and were somehow obscured of a more perfect leaving, details like a second child or the call came that it was safe to enter??? there's no way that the time frame picked was so perfect for jo not to be there, or anyone for that matter; how did he know if working alone that his victims were also now alone??? this puzzles me.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

Stan & Lois:

You two are quite gross today Thanks for that! lol

 

[Tinkerbel1]

a food style that can't be pronounced in English. the steak was cooked with my own onions and potatoes in a frying pan with some bolettes a friend had picked recently. it has all since moved.

So you really did eat steak? That's awesome! Did you enjoy it? I'm assuming bolettes are mushrooms?
Sounds like a great dinner!
I'm not really making soap...I thought you were making a joke about having all the ingredients to make someone disappear...lol

 

[stan laurel]

So you really did eat steak? That's awesome! Did you enjoy it? I'm assuming bolettes are mushrooms?
Sounds like a great dinner!
I'm not really making soap...I thought you were making a joke about having all the ingredients to make someone disappear...lol

I did have steak, it was very good and bolettes are mushrooms and all households and farms have evidence to suggest murder and farms big and small and especially those around for big chunks of time have an assortment of pesticide and fertiliser that fall into categories such as irritant, caustic and corrosive and are batched as needed or bought pre-mixed. if used incorrectly they can do other things like make bombs that can take down whole buildings (Tim McVeigh and company) or in this case and others theories, remove people either onsite or at a predetermined locale. If one was chemically astute, some could be manipulated to create a far more intense fire temperature or a caking powder that mummifies and staves off stink that would attract rodents as even buried carrion can be smelled out by most rodent, scavenger or predator,, I think borax does this.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

I heard it was take-out. JO refers to this at her parent's memorial and it is published. I do recall CH saying the same thing about Chinese food and a hug session and it was in a way that I thought she was participating in that, I would like to find her comment. She was also said to have been at the Estate sale in the afternoon.

I also agree that DG had some sort of intel as to what was taking place that weekend. Whether it was thru his parents, sister, AL, or other family member is the mystery!

It's odd that CH didn't make mention of when she left the Liknes home that Sunday, especially if she was there for Chinese food and a movie. She is quite forthcoming with any information she has about KL and herself, I would've thought she would have willingly offered up this tidbit.

I think that Airdrie is growing but it's not so big that news couldn't have gotten around town about the estate sale.

 

[stan laurel]

so they/he watched from a distance for the vehicle and were somehow obscured of a more perfect leaving, details like a second child or the call came that it was safe to enter??? there's no way that the time frame picked was so perfect for jo not to be there, or anyone for that matter; how did he know if working alone that his victims were also now alone??? this puzzles me.

of course this does somewhat prove he was planning for two and no more collateral additions e.g., JO and NO.

 

[Slebby]

I believe this wasn't planned but actually happened. JO made the comment at the memorial and said it was a day she'll never forget about the movie, take out and group hug.

Very good questions about details. The sale ended at 7pm I think, I would think they would've ate right after that as most people would be starving after such a busy day.

DG did fluke out alright which is why I don't think dismemberment was planned nor happened... at least at Parkhill.

I don't know if DG fluked out alright, but rather, my impression was that he was "casing the place" so to speak, ahead of time. I thought that was why his truck was seen so many times in the neighborhood that it aroused suspicion when spotted repeatedly on the cctv. I was picturing him driving past, seeing JO's vehicle in the driveway, and waiting nearby or driving around before returning at a time after she left.

IMO

 

[stan laurel]

It's odd that CH didn't make mention of when she left the Liknes home that Sunday, especially if she was there for Chinese food and a movie. She is quite forthcoming with any information she has about KL and herself, I would've thought she would have willingly offered up this tidbit.

I think that Airdrie is growing but it's not so big that news couldn't have gotten around town about the estate sale.

I don't think it was a newsworthy estate sale,, it wasn't like if the Mannix family were having one or the Southerns. I didn't hear of it but then again I don't go on kijiji or hang around casinos either.

 

[deugirtni]

Excellent questions.. even if the Chinese food isn't during the 'timeframe'? !
But.. if JO were there for the Chinese food, and then the afterward group hugs on the sofa, and she left at 10pm, then either way, delivery or takeout, what would it matter, because tht wouldn't have been the last thing to have arrived at the house.. since JO was still there? Or am I not following your train of thought?

hmm, so they did do take out or not?

because it really changes the timeframe.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

Careful with those essential oils, Tink.

No worries! Not using essential oils...lol. I was making 'disappearing' soap for my brothers I had gotten the idea to use eau de toilet from Lois & Stan's posts regarding bile...thought I might be a little nicer since it's for Christmas!

(I misunderstood Stan's "I had steak" comment...I also have a head cold, so not thinking very clearly...then one thing lead to another :/)

 

[Tinkerbel1]

I don't know if DG fluked out alright, but rather, my impression was that he was "casing the place" so to speak, ahead of time. I thought that was why his truck was seen so many times in the neighborhood that it aroused suspicion when spotted repeatedly on the cctv. I was picturing him driving past, seeing JO's vehicle in the driveway, and waiting nearby or driving around before returning at a time after she left.

IMO

Maybe DG picked up the Chinese food. Which way was he travelling each time they saw him on CCTV? The same way? Or, was he going back and forth?
I still don't think he and AL were estranged for some reason. JMO

 

[Krystine]

Hey, everyone. I was giving this over active brain a bit of a walkabout (a break from the site) and this came to me while I was trying to think about less intense topics.
Do farmers and agri people have access to stun guns or tazers? Are they as easy or difficult to buy on the black market as firearms, do you think?

To me it seems a little bit more practical that the L's were overcome with a tazer than with a tire iron.

 

[Krystine]

No worries! Not using essential oils...lol. I was making 'disappearing' soap for my brothers I had gotten the idea to use eau de toilet from Lois & Stan's posts regarding bile...thought I might be a little nicer since it's for Christmas!

(I misunderstood Stan's "I had steak" comment...I also have a head cold, so not thinking very clearly...then one thing lead to another :/)

tee hee!

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey, everyone. I was giving this over active brain a bit of a walkabout (a break from the site) and this came to me while I was trying to think about less intense topics.
Do farmers and agri people have access to stun guns or tazers?
Are they as easy or difficult to buy on the black market as firearms, do you think?
To me it seems a little bit more practical that the L's were overcome with a tazer than with a tire iron.

<bbm>

Yes they are as easy. (Don't ask )

 

[Sillybilly]

Could someone please point me to where CH commented on the Chinese food and group hug. I've only seen it mentioned by JO at the memorial. Thanks !!