Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #17

[otto]

We had heard the possibility of a 3rd crime scene. I came across this video last night and at 20 seconds into it I notice a police van backed into the driveway. Maybe this home was investigated as well. I think it could be related. Has anyone else looked into this?

In general the video is interesting if you listen to it. As well notice the police van parked in the driveway. I wonder who lived there or was it also vacant?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHg43jyk54

20 seconds in, van in driveway.
30 seconds in, close up of driveway and blood-like matter

It looks like the vehicle is simply parked in the driveway across the street from the crime scene, so I doubt that it is part of the investigation.

The photos are from the video. It seems rather obvious that the drag marks are related to the victims.

Photos removed because they presented a new opportunity to make comments that I find offensive.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

That is super scary! I wonder where he is today? I am glad you took the proper precautions and that nothing happened to you!

I know, it was really scary. He parked his car where it was hidden and watched me get into my car to leave after closing at like 1am, as far as I knew no one was around (I always looked around at my surroundings, still do), so he hid well. Then I noticed headlights behind me half way home, so he sped to catch up! Nervy. Then after he knew where I lived he would drive by all the time, didn't have a care in the world....

Anyways, he was skinny, introverted, quiet, harmless looking guy. I could probably crush him like a twig. I was nice to him (like I am to everyone) and almost felt sorry for him - big mistake.

I think these guys expect most outgoing, friendly people to be nice and feel sorry for them a little and they use it to their advantage, that's why I'm never fooled by 'these harmless looking small guys'. I could see that guy getting frustrated and mad, and those are the types that are bombs waiting to go off. Especially when they build things up in their own head with no one around to talk sense into them.

I don't remember his last name, only first, and I always wonder what happened to the creep!

 

[Slebby]

It looks like the vehicle is simply parked in the driveway across the street from the crime scene, so I doubt that it is part of the investigation.

The photos are from the video. It seems rather obvious that the drag marks are related to the victims.

I'm sure you're right. There isn't any question in my mind, that is blood.
IMHO

 

[stan laurel]

IMO, that's still a far cry from a violent struggle as was described by LE, plus it wouldn't be that difficult to clean up.

Points for imagination stan! :crazy:

adrenaline in the shockees part coupled with the jolting would be a lot like a very violent seizure, besides it's not my theory just pointing out what an overshocking from a controlled current device might do.

 

[stan laurel]

We had heard the possibility of a 3rd crime scene. I came across this video last night and at 20 seconds into it I notice a police van backed into the driveway. Maybe this home was investigated as well. I think it could be related. Has anyone else looked into this?

In general the video is interesting if you listen to it. As well notice the police van parked in the driveway. I wonder who lived there or was it also vacant?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHg43jyk54

20 seconds in, van in driveway.
30 seconds in, close up of driveway and blood-like matter

hmm, good vid. there is a splatter that is under the garage door, so it must have been open that evening.

who are the passengers in the vehicle that were mentioned by LE?

maybe the cop van just parked there for convenience sake???

 

[stan laurel]

Maybe if it was done to them when they were sleeping? However in that case, I'd lean more towards knife than crowbar. Or axe.

You're right. It doesn't feel very good to write these thoughts.

IMO

horrible to write it.

did he know the layout of the bedroom and where to stand for maximum blows,, was he a lefty or righty or ambidextrous. seriously, go get a hammer and swing it into your couch pillow, then try a longer object.

 

[LoisLane]

I'm sure you're right. There isn't any question in my mind, that is blood.
IMHO

Looks like blood to me, like someone was punched in the mouth and may have lost a tooth or two. Like in those boxing matches!

 

[otto]

hmm, good vid. there is a splatter that is under the garage door, so it must have been open that evening.

who are the passengers in the vehicle that were mentioned by LE?

maybe the cop van just parked there for convenience sake???

At what time in the video can we see blood under the garage door?

 

[otto]

Looks like blood to me, like someone was punched in the mouth and may have lost a tooth or two. Like in those boxing matches!

How can you tell where the blood/tissue came from, and how it got there?

 

[stan laurel]

It looks like the vehicle is simply parked in the driveway across the street from the crime scene, so I doubt that it is part of the investigation.

The photos are from the video. It seems rather obvious that the drag marks are related to the victims.

funny, they don't look draggy, drippy maybe but not draggy.

 

[stan laurel]

It looks like the vehicle is simply parked in the driveway across the street from the crime scene, so I doubt that it is part of the investigation.

The photos are from the video. It seems rather obvious that the drag marks are related to the victims.

funny, they don't look draggy, drippy maybe but not draggy.

 

[deugirtni]

Well well, quite the find..
Did you happen to notice at approx 0:45 into the video (BBM):

Police also revealed they want to speak with a driver and passenger seen in an older model Ford F150 around the time of the disappearance.

"We just believe that given the area that the vehicle was in and the fact that it was the night of the incident and that it drove in the area several times, that there's a good possibility that the individual or individuals in that vehicle may have information in regards to this incident." - Detective Andrus

We had heard the possibility of a 3rd crime scene. I came across this video last night and at 20 seconds into it I notice a police van backed into the driveway. Maybe this home was investigated as well. I think it could be related. Has anyone else looked into this?

In general the video is interesting if you listen to it. As well notice the police van parked in the driveway. I wonder who lived there or was it also vacant?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHg43jyk54

20 seconds in, van in driveway.
30 seconds in, close up of driveway and blood-like matter

 

[otto]

funny, they don't look draggy, drippy maybe but not draggy.

Witnesses at the scene described drag marks.

 

[stan laurel]

At what time in the video can we see blood under the garage door?

in the pic you posted

 

[stan laurel]

Witnesses at the scene described drag marks.

still look drabbley to me imo

 

[otto]

Well well, quite the find..
Did you happen to notice at approx 0:45 into the video:

Maybe that's why there are two murders associated with the Parkhill residence, and one person was in medical distress.

 

[stan laurel]

Looks like blood to me, like someone was punched in the mouth and may have lost a tooth or two. Like in those boxing matches!

bit of gum and tooth root. meat without skin. good call.

 

[LoisLane]

How can you tell where the blood/tissue came from, and how it got there?

The chunky stuff in the cracks look like the chunky stuff that flies out of someones mouth when they are punched in the mouth. I am speculating, the same as the witness who claims it is drag marks.

 

[otto]

in the pic you posted

I don't see blood spatter in the garage or under the door because the door is completely closed, so I don't see how it could be concluded that the door was open at the time of the murders.

 

[stan laurel]

Well well, quite the find..
Did you happen to notice at approx 0:45 into the video:

I posted that or something similar but was told that I couldn't read the context of the statement and they only meant one person.