Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #21

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  • #181
"Taking notes". Michael Rafferty did the same thing during his trial, didn't he?
The accused are often instructed to do so. I was at his Trial twice. He did not sit at the Defense table. He was off to the right in a box with plexi glass. Not to say he didn't ever take notes but the 2 days I attended he just stared straight ahead.
ETA- which would be at the Jury
 
  • #182
I had no clue the trial was starting today, until I went on CBC.

Seeing Nathan, Alvin and Kathy's faces again up close made my heart and stomach lurch, and I can't even imagine the pain of their families and loved ones.

Having our suspicions confirmed about the patent envy, and the confirmation of their bodies at his farm, makes me just seeth with anger and this horrific loss of life because of a disturbed maniac.

I will be following through to the end to see justice done.

May God give all involved the strength to continue in light of the gruesome facts to come.
 
  • #183
Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 3m3 minutes ago
Afternoon break in #Garland trial

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 4m4 minutes ago
There were two versions of the pump. Allen testifies #Garland only worked on first version which had been patented

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 5m5 minutes ago
Allen worked with his dad in '06/07. Hired Douglas #Garland to do some wiring for them on a pump the father/son were developing

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 3m3 minutes ago
So, prosecutor now going over questions to show that despite a close relationship w/ Allen, Alvin & Kathy were never heard from again

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 4m4 minutes ago
Because bodies were never found, #Garland prosecution has to show only reasonable explication for disappearance is that trio was murdered

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 35s35 seconds ago
Allen Liknes had 'very good friendship' w/ his dad, Alvin who was moving to Edmonton area where Allen also lived.

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 4m4 minutes ago
Cross exam of Jennifer O'Brien is done. Allen Liknes (Alvin's son, Garland's brother-in-law) is next witness. Jennifer stays in courtroom

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 12m12 minutes ago
Jennifer confirms to #Garland lawyer she didn't hear or see anything unusual as she left around 11pm the night of the impromptu sleepover

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 14s15 seconds ago
Jennifer confirms she never saw #Garland in her parents home

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 6s7 seconds ago
Crown's questions for Jennifer O'Brien done. #Garland defence lawyer Jim Lutz now cross examining her

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 3m3 minutes ago
Jennifer O'Brien is crying but steady as she looks at photos of her son's items (superman cape) left behind in the home

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 4m4 minutes ago
Jennifer wipes away tears as she goes through photos of bloodied home where she looked for her son. Testimony continues at #Garland trial

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 6m6 minutes ago
#Garland jury hears Jennifer say beds & rooms didn't look the night before the way they looked when she arrived in the am-- Bedding missing

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 2m2 minutes ago
Jennifer describing at #Garland trial where she looked for her son & parents on the morning on June 30, 2014. Blood everywhere, she said

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 6m6 minutes ago
Jennifer O'Brien is going through a booklet of photos of her parents' home. (BTW Alvin was her stepdad but she calls him 'dad')

Meghan Grant ‏@CBCMeg 3m3 minutes ago
Douglas #Garland 3x 1st degree murder trial back up and running with Nathan O'Brien's mother, Jennifer to continue her testimony

https://twitter.com/CBCMeg?lang=en&lang=en

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Read up

Lunch break is over.
 
  • #184
Don't ask me why I have posted the tweets in reverse order, it's now irritating me :facepalm:
 
  • #185
Don't ask me why I have posted the tweets in reverse order, it's now irritating me :facepalm:

Don't worry about it skibs.

Your help along with others is greatly appreciated.
 
  • #186
Well if Garland was such an intense researcher (how to kill without emotion), he sure cr@pped the bed by missing that you can't fully burn bodies in a burn barrel.

Indeed! You may recall my theory was that he bludgeoned them in their beds, put them in lye and then burned remains. His actions are even more horrifying than my hypotheses.
 
  • #187
Thank you for posting the tweets, whichever way they came out, Skibs.

Such horrific details - much worse than I anticipated.
 
  • #188
So they are saying he took them alive and killed them at the farm?? This is hard to wrap my head around. How did he subdue 2 adults and then take 3 severely injured people away? I don’t get the logistics of it all.

From the evidence that has now been made public they were attacked in their beds. Likely bludgeoned.
 
  • #189
Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 2m2 minutes ago
Court for the #garland triple murder trial is adjourned for the day. Will re-commence Tuesday at 10 a.m.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 3m3 minutes ago
Allen Liknes describes Douglas #garland as "sneaky." Cross-exam is over, 3 witnesses expected tomorrow.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 3m3 minutes ago
Defence suggests bad blood between Alvin and #garland was minimal, but Allen says he was trying to "drum up some bad feelings" about his dad

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 2m2 minutes ago
Defence asks Allen Liknes about early confrontations between #garland and Alvin Liknes. He says none, no threats.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 10m10 minutes ago
Now going over the pump patent documents, which the Crown contends is the motivation for murders of Alvin, Kathy Liknes and Nathan O'Brien.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 3m3 minutes ago
"There would no reason why Nathan would ever visit the farm," and Kathy and Alvin never would have borrowed the #garland family's truck

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 4m4 minutes ago
In winter of 2014, Allen Liknes says he was at #garland farm for a family event.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 5m5 minutes ago
Allen Liknes says #garland told him in 2010, three years after, that he was upset Alvin Liknes didn't want to work with him.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 9m9 minutes ago
"Doug wasn't doing anything, and we offered him the job" to help with the pump, says Allen Liknes. Alvin & #garland 1st got along fine.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 11m11 minutes ago
"He didn't do anything," says Allen Liknes of Douglas Garland when asked what he did for a living. #garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 35m35 minutes ago
Alvin folded the company, only asset was a truck, some parts to build pumps #garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 37m37 minutes ago
"Hired Doug to do some wiring for us" regarding the first version of the pump, says Allen Liknes #garland

https://twitter.com/ValFortney
 
  • #190
Don't ask me why I have posted the tweets in reverse order, it's now irritating me :facepalm:

Just wanted to add many of us have followed trials and we've learned to read tweets upside down. ;)
 
  • #191
Just wanted to add many of us have followed trials and we've learned to read tweets upside down. ;)

I think I've always done it that way but not so many in order that I noticed it looks weird lol (OCD...) btw happy 18,000th post CP!!!
 
  • #192
I think we're just happy your posting the tweets. [emoji4]


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  • #193
Just goes to show how hatred festers and turns to something like this. I can't imagine a hate so strong or deep or real that would culminate in the torture and murder of 3 people over something so petty.

Unbelievable the carnage created by this monster.

Snipped for focus.

To me, the hints about his exhaustive research, planning, purchasing, and the methods that he used, something else was going on with DG: a desire to act out extremely violent and sadistic fantasies that he'd perhaps been concealing his whole life. He happened to focus his hatred on AL (perhaps he envied him?), but in other circumstances, I think he'd have found some other victim.
 
  • #194
Your great compassion and generosity of time in sharing the Court updates is greatly appreciated!

Thank you so very much for this!
 
  • #195
  • #196
Ina Sidhu CTV:
#garland trial has wrapped for today. Douglas Garlands mom, dad and sister are expected to testify tomorrow @CTVCalgary
 
  • #197
Kevin Martin
Allen Liknes done testifying. Day one of Douglas Garland trial complete.
 
  • #198
Ina Sidhu CTV:
#garland trial has wrapped for today. Douglas Garlands mom, dad and sister are expected to testify tomorrow @CTVCalgary

So not looking great for DG when his family are Crown witnesses.
 
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There were also many long discussions from members convinced he didn't do it and that the police and prosecutors didn't have enough evidence, that the "puzzle pieces weren't fitting," etc . In fact, at one point, that was the dominant theme here, albeit after the majority of members had left and opted to wait for the trial to see the actual evidence.

It was in fact puzzling for some of us. The idea that all three were killed and removed from the home was not convincing. Now we know they were not killed in the home.
 
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