Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #21

[mrazda71]

I'm fearing that Alvin was made to watch the torture and killing of his wife and Grandson <modsnip>

 

[Kamille]

Kevin MartinVerified account &#8207;@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Technical issue going to last through lunch break. Back at 1:45 pm. #garland

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

[video=twitter;821774003022897152]https://twitter.com/MetroLucie/status/821774003022897152[/video]

Const. Trevor Matthes is my cousin. I remember long ago he'd told my Dad that he was one of the first officers on the scene but obviously didn't tell him anything more. I can't imagine visualizing the scene that he did.

 

[Bravo]

Thanks so much for all the tweets, sweets. I just got caught up.

 

[Tricia]

Hey Everyone,

Thank you for working so hard on this case. You all deserve the credit.

Special shout out to Otto, Cheryl, and Rachel for agreeing to be interviewed.

When a reporter interviews the members then I know that person understands what we are trying to do.

To all of you thank you so very much.

You show the world what Websleuths is all about.


Tricia

PS. I know this is an old article but it is worth bringing up again.

Remember this?
Otto, you did SO much work on this case (and so many others too), and you had this case nailed early on. Kudos!

Armchair detectives trying to crack missing persons case on web forum

More than 2,000 messages posted so far
BY DYLAN ROBERTSON, CALGARY HERALD JULY 13, 2014 10:20 AM

As news helicopters circle over an Airdrie area acreage and investigators comb the scene, online forum poster &#8220;Otto&#8221; uploads a labelled topography map.
&#8220;The small boxes are the buildings,&#8221; he writes. Shortly after, a stranger named &#8220;Mrsguest&#8221; puts the address through a property search and links it to a business.
She&#8217;s among scores of amateur online sleuths, who have collectively posted over 2,000 anonymous messages related to the case on the forum websleuths.com. Users have deciphered police statements, used clever search tricks and pieced together family trees and timelines.

Launched in 1999 for strangers to follow the JonBenet Ramsey case in the United States, the forum now nets over 65,000 users, half of whom log on almost daily. The site is among a handful dedicated to following and probing unsolved crime and missing-persons cases across North America.

From the media thread:
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/a...issing+persons+case+forum/10026298/story.html

 

[JadeSLeuth]

I'm baaaaack lol. THANK YOU so much for the tweet work and the pictures!

 

[Power of Two]

There hasn't been any mention of the senior Garlands or of PG being in attendance today, has there? Just wondering what they are doing today. I imagine this is all so incredibly difficult for them. Attend court proceedings or stay home and bide your time. What a choice! I hope they have a caring support system looking after them ie: church family or neighbours.

 

[LoisLane]

Reports say the 3 were killed at the farm. From nightstands and beds seems clear they were bludgeoned in their sleep thus incapacitated. Perhaps then handcuffed, etc and transported?

I'm wondering if they (or Alvin at least) were injected to knock them unconscious and then he pulled out teeth which created the blood near the head of the bed. There was mention of a tooth recovered in the hallway.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I'm wondering if they (or Alvin at least) were injected to knock them unconscious and then he pulled out teeth which created the blood near the head of the bed. There was mention of a tooth recovered in the hallway.

I'm guessing the small tooth located in the house was the result of the impact of the bar bell. And I truly hated typing that as much as even knowing it was a small tooth.

 

[Kamille]

I won't be available to post the tweets after the lunch break. Hopefully we have someone around who can.

 

[Tealgrove]

I'm wondering if they (or Alvin at least) were injected to knock them unconscious and then he pulled out teeth which created the blood near the head of the bed. There was mention of a tooth recovered in the hallway.

I'm of the feeling that he didn't spend a ton of time at the house. I think that they were bludgeoned on the spot, which would account for the blood especially if they were hit in the head. Head wounds bleed like crazy. This could also account for lost teeth if someone were hit in the face. He incapacitated them, whether the injuries did that alone or he injected something and/or tied them up somehow. Then he got them out and headed for the farm. MOO

 

[LoisLane]

I'm guessing the small tooth located in the house was the result of the impact of the bar bell. And I truly hated typing that as much as even knowing it was a small tooth.

There was a photo posted of an interior shot of the downstairs sofa and there were weights (green) next to the sofa from an ad off kijiji relating to the estate sale I believe. Then there was another photo posted at the trial yesterday of a different weight (white) next to the pullout that appeared clean. I am thinking that the Liknes's kept weights nearby to exercise. possibly DG was not aware of them (especially if he kept the lights off) and maybe Alvin tried to use them in a struggle... that's if there were other weights nearby to his bed or close by (not the basement as he was upstairs). Big What-if... but what if Alvin was able to hit DG and knocked out DG's teeth? Alvin was much larger than DG. And although the tooth was described as small I am not sure that description can determine if it belonged to a child, but I'm sure it will be disclosed later.

 

[LoisLane]

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 10m10 minutes ago
Jury back in court. Douglas Garland triple murder trial resumes. #garland

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 8m8 minutes ago
Justice david Gates tells jurors it took longer than anticipated to repair video screen in prisoner's box for #Garland to view power point.

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 4m4 minutes ago
Front window blinds of Liknes home were opened when police arrived. Basement blinds were closed. #garland

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 2m2 minutes ago
Jurors being shown various exterior photos of Liknes residence. #garland

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 51s51 seconds ago
Const. Alexon noticed no broken windows at Liknes house. #garland

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 1m1 minute ago
Sliding door to den of Liknes home was open, says Const. Alexon. "You could've walked right in. #garland

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 2m2 minutes ago
Sliding door to kitchen also open, said Alexon. #garland

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 1m1 minute ago
Man door to detached garage at Liknes home also wide open, says Const. Alexon. #garland

Kevin Martin &#8207;@KMartinCourts · 57s57 seconds ago
Police found what was believed to be a drop of blood on a walkway on the east side of the Liknes residence. #garland







*** that's all I can post.. gotta run out.

 

[KMouse]

There was a photo posted of an interior shot of the downstairs sofa and there were weights (green) next to the sofa from an ad off kijiji relating to the estate sale I believe. Then there was another photo posted at the trial yesterday of a different weight (white) next to the pullout that appeared clean. I am thinking that the Liknes's kept weights nearby to exercise. possibly DG was not aware of them (especially if he kept the lights off) and maybe Alvin tried to use them in a struggle... that's if there were other weights nearby to his bed or close by (not the basement as he was upstairs). Big What-if... but what if Alvin was able to hit DG and knocked out DG's teeth? Alvin was much larger than DG. And although the tooth was described as small I am not sure that description can determine if it belonged to a child, but I'm sure it will be disclosed later.

When DG was arrested he did not have any obvious injuries.

This was a surprise attack. The family was in their beds. Very doubtful anybody had a chance of defending themselves.
Unfortunately I think the weights may have been used by DG as a weapon.

 

[LoisLane]

When DG was arrested he did not have any obvious injuries.

This was a surprise attack. The family was in their beds. Very doubtful anybody had a chance of defending themselves.
Unfortunately I think the weights may have been used by DG as a weapon.

I believe we discussed a potential goose egg on DG's forehead during the perp walk. As well, his mouth was closed so we wouldn't know for sure about his teeth.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Kevin MartinVerified account &#8207;@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
Man door to detached garage at Liknes home also wide open, says Const. Alexon. #garland

Kevin MartinVerified account &#8207;@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Sliding door to kitchen also open, said Alexon. #garland

Kevin MartinVerified account &#8207;@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Sliding door to den of Liknes home was open, says Const. Alexon. "You could've walked right in. #garland

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Lucie Edwardson &#8207;@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Alexon says CPS pulled a fingerprint from side door. #Garland #yyc

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Meghan GrantVerified account &#8207;@CBCMeg 2m2 minutes ago
Alexon says he noted drill marks in the deadbolt lock on Liknes side door #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account &#8207;@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Police found two "little drill marks" by keypad door lock to Liknes residence. #garland

 

[Sprigs]

Just wanting to clarify - I believe opening statements mentioned finding "small tooth" in the burn barrel. Now today there was mention of "tooth" or what looked to be a tooth in the hallway of Liknes home. I didn't see any reference to this being "small tooth". So, no confirmation yet of whose tooth/teeth were located.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Meghan GrantVerified account &#8207;@CBCMeg 1m1 minute ago
Close up of lock taken off Liknes door. Police noted drill marks in it. It was taken off the door for further analysis #Garland

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