Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #25

[Tealgrove]

[video=twitter;829081204049772545]https://twitter.com/MetroLucie/status/829081204049772545[/video]

That door you see in the distance is the back entrance to the shed (outbuilding 3) where all of the other DNA evidence was found.

This picture is probably showing the area that Sully hit on. Was it not between the greenhouse and Outbuilding No. 3? Makes sense.

 

[Bravo]

It almost seems like overkill with respect to KL. More bloodletting for her in particular to the point where he dragged her to the vehicle. He saved the meathooks for her. No DNA from the others on the meathooks. Before I go too far over the edge, I'm almost seeing more rage directed at KL than at AL.

IMO she put up the biggest fight. The Mama bear came out. Protecting Nathan. Killer had the element of surprise in the dark of night. I am sure they were exhausted from the move/sale going on. Maybe Alvin was first. Kathy wakes up. Fights for her grandson mach 90 as she was with him.

 

[Kamille]

This picture is probably showing the area that Sully hit on. Was it not between the greenhouse and Outbuilding No. 3? Makes sense.

Yes...near and around the vegetable garden. Which is behind the greenhouse. Might have used that area for cleaning as I'd imagine there was a hose there for the garden and greenhouse.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Must be on afternoon break. I'm going to take 5 too and make some tea.

 

[Kamille]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
DNA matches for Jennifer O'Brien and her infant son, Max, O'Brien were also found at the Likneses home on things like a water glass #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts now49 seconds ago
More advanced testing done later was able to more conclusively show presence of Kathy Liknes' DNA on bloodied bedding. #Garland

 

[Hatfield]

This is very deceiving the way she worded that. Here is another version...

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 9m9 minutes ago
Mohrbutter: also found fragments from another individual in ashes, but too trace to determine. #Garland

Yes it doesnt necessarily mean it is not one of the Liknes. It could have been one of the other two.

 

[Kamille]

[video=twitter;829086168939630594]https://twitter.com/MetroLucie/status/829086168939630594[/video]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 10s11 seconds ago
Nathan O'Brien's DNA was also a match. #Garland #yyc

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 10s11 seconds ago
Mohrbutter going through further testing done on the bloody bedding at Liknes home-this piece had DNA of Kathy Liknes #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 28s28 seconds ago
DNA of Nathan O'Brien was also found on this bedding-Mohrbutter said #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts now43 seconds ago
Kathy Liknes' DNA was also found on a swab of the interior box of Garland's pickup. #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney now47 seconds ago
Mohrbutter says her file goes through two independent reviews before she can file report. #Garland

 

[JadeSLeuth]

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Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
Crown has ended their direct examination of Mohrbutter #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Mohrbutter said there are multiple independent reviews done on her files before her report can be released to the investigator #Garland #yyc

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 2m2 minutes ago
Court hears DNA of Kathy Liknes also found in bed of #Garland truck

 

[Kamille]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 16s17 seconds ago
Mohrbutter said there are multiple independent reviews done on her files before her report can be released to the investigator #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 12s13 seconds ago
Crown has ended their direct examination of Mohrbutter #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now36 seconds ago
Defence Jim Lutz is now cross-examining Mohrbutter. #Garland #yyc

 

[CentralAlberta]

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Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 1m1 minute ago
Mohrbutter: also found fragments from another individual in ashes, but too trace to determine. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
We heard earlier in the trial from a CPS officer who spent months sifting through ash from #Garland burn barrel, finding biological material
[video=twitter;829081383351967744]https://twitter.com/CTVInaSidhu/status/829081383351967744[/video]

I wonder who this is??

 

[JadeSLeuth]

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Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 3m3 minutes ago
Mohrbutter says her file goes through two independent reviews before she can file report. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 41s41 seconds ago
Mohbutter says there are biochemical tests that can identify blood, semen or hairs - they can then say source of DNA profile #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
DNA can be found in blood, hair, saliva, skin cells or semen, Mohrbutter tells defence lawyer Jim Lutz. #Garland

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 2m2 minutes ago
Crown done questioning Mohrbutter. Douglas #Garland lawyer Jim Lutz questioning her now

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Defence Jim Lutz is now cross-examining Mohrbutter. #Garland #yyc

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 50s50 seconds ago
Mohrbutter: Kathy Liknes' DNA also found in bed of #Garland truck; cross-examination now by defence lawyer Jim Lutz,

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
In other cases they take a "cutting" from something or a swab and they aren't sure what the source of the DNA profile is. #Garland #yyc

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 2m2 minutes ago
Crown is done with Mohrbutter. Jim Lutz, representing #Garland up now.

 

[olivebpa1]

I wonder who this is??

It was worded wrong. It was one of the victims but not enough dna to get a result.

 

[garbagetweet]

Unless I missed it I'm pretty surprised that Alvin's DNA wasn't recovered from the pickup. He must have been wrapped up pretty well.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 37s37 seconds ago
Lutz: they don't rely on presumptive tests for blood, they use the lab tests. Mohrbutter confirms. #Garland

 

[olivebpa1]

Unless I missed it I'm pretty surprised that Alvin's DNA wasn't recovered from the pickup. He must have been wrapped up pretty well.

Or he used that dna erase to clean truck but missed some spots that had Kathy's dna.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
If something is labelled as blood (or something else) in Mohrbutter's report- it was tested and confirmed in the lab. #Garland #yyc

 

[Kamille]

Unless I missed it I'm pretty surprised that Alvin's DNA wasn't recovered from the pickup. He must have been wrapped up pretty well.

Judging by the small spray on the quilt from the master bedroom, he didn't appear to have bled all that much. Which would indicate that the blow to the head didn't cause a large wound. Wasn't there more blood in that room?

MOO

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 34s34 seconds ago
under cross examination Mohrbutter confirms she can't tell how DNA ends up on an object #Garland