GUILTY Canada - Amber Kirwan, 19, New Glasgow, NS, 9 Oct 2011 - #1

[Hazel]

http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/201...m-man-dead;-homicide-investigation-underway/1
Heading: Police confirm man dead; homicide investigation underway
Published on October 25, 2011
Quote:
UPDATE: Wednesday, Oct. 26, 12:12 p.m. -

TRENTON – Police are now saying they are not ruling out a connection between the Trenton homicide Tuesday night and the case of missing Pictou County teen Amber Kirwan.

Const. Ken MacDonald had originally indicated there was no connection between the two cases, but now says that it’s too early to rule that out.
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Thank you Truth!
wow! I wonder what made them change to "not ruling out a connection" Would the male victim be known to MC or Amber's family/friends? I guess we'll just have to wait for more details to come out. So far all we know is M's mother lives somewhere in T. (according to her FB profile)

From what they have released so far, the victim is a 44-year old male. Would he be the father of the "four children ranging in age from four to nine were inside at the time" ? very sad.

more pictures & comments @ link : http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-10-25/photo-2786368/Police-confirm-man-dead%3B-homicide-investigation-underway/1

 

[Truth Prevails]

Thank you Truth!
wow! I wonder what made them change to "not ruling out a connection" Would the male victim be known to MC or Amber's family/friends? I guess we'll just have to wait for more details to come out. So far all we know is M's mother lives somewhere in T.

From what they have released so far, the victim is a 44-year old male. Would he be the father of the "four children ranging in age from four to nine were inside at the time" ? very sad.

more pictures & comments @ link : http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-10-25/photo-2786368/Police-confirm-man-dead%3B-homicide-investigation-underway/1

Hazel: This recent news of the possibility of a connection between Amber's disappearance and the shooting could lead to a very big development, but is not necessarily good news for Amber.--imo. I can't help but think that some of the rumours circulating suddenly have more credibility.

Here is a link to a write-up and short video which CTV Atlantic carried on the 'shooting':
http://atlantic.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l...on_shooting_111025/20111025/?hub=AtlanticHome
Quoted and Snipped:
Schools in Trenton are on lockdown after a fatal shooting occurred in the small town Tuesday night.

Buell says the victim was walking downtown to buy a pack of cigarettes, but he never returned.

Buell says the man's wife was inside their home when she heard two shots, and when she looked out the window she saw her husband lying on the road.
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(I hope I quoted your post correctly. I tried to snip out the pictures so I wouldn't waste space. I hope I did that right.)

 

[TxLady2]

I've never heard of them locking down schools because of a shooting of someone in a residential area, unless it happened very near the school, either during school hours or while students are coming from or going to school. This shooting happened at night, is that correct? Around here that would be VERY unusual.

 

[Hazel]

Man fatally shot in Trenton
Victim, husband and father of four, gunned down near home

When they arrived, they found a man dead in front of 22 Mechanic St.

Police have not yet released the victim's name, but a relative identified him as Ed Phalen, a Trenton man in his 40s.

DB said Phalen went out to buy cigarettes at a store down the road from his home at 26 Mechanic St., next door to where the shooting happened.

"He never made it back into the house," Buell said.

Phalen's wife Veronica heard two loud bangs and went outside to find her husband on the ground.

"It must have been an awful thing to see," Buell said.

Phalen is married with four children

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

 

[Oceansalt]

The following iare my thoughts: The schools were in lockdown the day after the murder because they had not found the shooter or the reason for the shooting. It hasn't been determined (that we know of) if the shooting was random. The whole town was full of police with lots of checkpoints so the shooter could be laying low till the police were gone.

 

[ellabella]

I've never heard of them locking down schools because of a shooting of someone in a residential area, unless it happened very near the school, either during school hours or while students are coming from or going to school. This shooting happened at night, is that correct? Around here that would be VERY unusual.

In my experience that would be rare for an urban area, but for a rural or small town area it's not surprising to me at all.

We had a complete lock down and evacuation once because someone heard a "bang" and thought it might have been a gun shot. SWAT was called in, there were snipers, and evacs.. Turns out the guy had a broken leg in a cast, and had slammed the door when he fell and the cast and door slam apparently was a "bang".

Other similar instances in our small town caused lockdown(suspicious people, drunk drivers,etc.)

 

[~n/t~]

In my experience that would be rare for an urban area, but for a rural or small town area it's not surprising to me at all.

We had a complete lock down and evacuation once because someone heard a "bang" and thought it might have been a gun shot. SWAT was called in, there were snipers, and evacs.. Turns out the guy had a broken leg in a cast, and had slammed the door when he fell and the cast and door slam apparently was a "bang".

Other similar instances in our small town caused lockdown(suspicious people, drunk drivers,etc.)

:floorlaugh: Sorry but that cracked me up.

 

[~n/t~]

I haven't been in the loop with the rumours but what the heck is going on? Who is this guy? Why is this shooting connected to Amber?

Wow.

Maybe I'll go visit facebook.

 

[~n/t~]

I'm still lost. The fb page I'm on, nobody is even discussing the latest news. It's all about her boyfriend. :dunno:

 

[revampz]

yeah guys...can someone let us know where we can have a look at "rumors"..thanks

 

[Truth Prevails]

Try this comment:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CANADA Canada - Amber Kirwan, 19, New Glasgow, Nova Scotia, 9 Oct 2011

Law enforcement are not stating with certainty that there is a connection, but they have not officially ruled it out. It's an onging thing--but it is not rumour.

(Earlier they had said there was no connection, but then they seemed to decide that there could possibly be a connection and issued a bulletin to this effect.)

 

[Truth Prevails]

Sorry to post twice in a row, but this link is interesting too.
http://www.pictouadvocate.com/2011/10/26/overnight-shooting-in-trenton/
Quote:
Mechanic Street and High Street in Trenton were closed and the various police departments were conducting check points in the area, mainly near the Trenton Connector for information.

When asked if this is in any way related to the Kirwan case Leger said, “We are still very much in the preliminary stages of our investigation and we are not eliminating any possible motives for the homicide. It is too premature to speculate on a motive for this incident.”
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Notice that the Trenton Connector area was also an area searched early in Amber's disappearance.

 

[belimom]

Here's a local board:

http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?PHPSESSID=65ed99b9520d83dc49373431d1de1259&topic=5383.1965

 

[UncoolNegated]

I am referring to the video footage of Amber leaving Dooly's that can be found here: CBC Link

Very early in the footage a vehicle pulls into the area that the camera is recording. To me that vehicle looks like a police cruiser although it could be a taxi cab as they can look alike sometimes, especially in grainy video.

My question is this: is it a police cruiser?

And secondly, if it is, does the police cruiser have a camera installed that looks out the front?

I know some police vehicles have camera's installed in the USA, not sure about Canada.

It's a longshot but if it is a police cruiser with a camera then maybe a closer look at Amber could be obtained.

 

[belimom]

I am referring to the video footage of Amber leaving Dooly's that can be found here: CBC Link

Very early in the footage a vehicle pulls into the area that the camera is recording. To me that vehicle looks like a police cruiser although it could be a taxi cab as they can look alike sometimes, especially in grainy video.

My question is this: is it a police cruiser?

And secondly, if it is, does the police cruiser have a camera installed that looks out the front?

I know some police vehicles have camera's installed in the USA, not sure about Canada.

It's a longshot but if it is a police cruiser with a camera then maybe a closer look at Amber could be obtained.

I think it's already been said that it was a police cruiser and that the officer didn't notice anything. He actually pulled off shortly afterwards, I think they said. If you look a few posts upthread, you can see a discussion about which route the officer may have taken and about how he must have driven right past Amber and not seen anything. (IIRC)

 

[Wondergirl]

New info here:

Officers found a 44-year-old man dead outside a home. While police aren’t releasing the name of the victim, some neighbours have said the man was Eddie Phalen, who had moved into a home on the street just a few months earlier with his wife and four children.

Wednesday morning, New Glasgow Police officially turned over the lead on the murder investigation to the RCMP’s major crime unit, saying they simply didn’t have the resources to manage both the murder and the disappearance of missing teen Amber Kirwan, who hasn’t been seen since Oct. 9.

“It’s an integrated effort, very similar to the Amber Kirwan investigation – the RCMP will be the primary investigators on this one and we’ll assist,” said MacDonald. “The decision is just one of resource allocation.”

Trenton Elementary and Trenton Middle schools, located only a few streets away from the murder scene, kept their doors locked Wednesday in the wake of the murder.

The Chignecto-Central Regional School Board’s communication’s manager, Carolyn Pierce, said that’s part of the usual procedures when there is an outside threat in the area of a school, which also involves teachers and staff remaining extra aware of what’s going on.

“We’re monitoring the situation and it may change as the day progresses,” Pierce said early Wednesday morning. “That could possibly include keeping the students inside during lunch and recess.”

http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/201...ts-shaken-as-murder-investigation-continues/1

 

[Wondergirl]

New info here, too:

Police were called to Mechanic Street at about 8 p.m. after a 911 caller reported shots in the area.

"He was having a nap. He went down the street to get a pack of cigarettes and come home and he must've met somebody in the yard here and had a confrontation right here. There was just two loud bangs," said family member Darrell Buell.

The father-in-law of the victim, Mike MacKenzie, told CBC News that four children ranging in age from four to nine were inside at the time.

"[He's] got four babies there ... and the little one just started school last September and that's pretty much all I can really tell you. Everybody's pretty well mourning right now," said MacKenzie.

Buell says he has no idea why anyone would want to kill his brother in law.

"I don't have any idea, [he] is quiet a family man and bought this place six months ago, but they're both from Trenton, grew up in Trenton. It's hard to say. God knows what's going on here. Hopefully they'll sort it soon enough," he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/10/26/ns-trenton-homicide.html

 

[Wondergirl]

It sounds like Ed Phalen was shot in the yard of the home next door to his home.

He was found at 22 Mechanic St., his home was 26 Mechanic St.

Darrell Buell of Stellarton said Phalen, his niece’s husband, went out to buy cigarettes at a store down the road from his home at 26 Mechanic St. The house is right next door to where the shooting happened.

Phalen was “certainly all family” and liked to drive his kids to school in the morning and pick them up in the afternoon, Buell said. He was also a friendly guy who was happy to sit in the nearby Tim Horton’s and chat with anyone.

“I don’t really know why any of this would happen,” said Buell.

There is no indication that this was a drive-by shooting but police don’t yet know if anyone else was injured, Const. Ken Macdonald, New Glasgow police spokesman, said Wednesday.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/27201-man-fatally-shot-trenton

 

[Wondergirl]

Video clip here, shows the home, all decorated for Hallowe'en.

Ed Phalen used to work at the Trenton Works Plant.

There was a confrontation, by the sounds of the man interviewed.

"Police are in the preliminary stages of this investigation and we're not eliminating any possible motivation for this homicide," says New Glasgow Police Const. Ken MacDonald.

He says it would be "premature to speculate."

At this time there is no description of any suspect in relation to Phalen's death.

Read it on Global News: Global Maritimes | Father of four killed in Trenton, N.S. shooting
http://www.globalmaritimes.com/father+of+four+killed+in+trenton+ns+shooting/6442509069/story.html

 

[UncoolNegated]

Just because the police are not ruling out a connection between the Trenton homicide and Amber Kirwan's disappearance does not mean much IMO. At this point in a homicide investigation I don't think police would rule out a connection to ANY crime or suspicious occurrence - it's just way too early.

Saying they aren't ruling something out is not a substantial statement.

Maybe the two events will be connected but at this point I don't really understand why they are being discussed together - is there anything of substance to link the two events besides proximity?