Canada - Anthony Raine, 17 mos, found dead, Edmonton, April 2017 *Arrests*

[meanmaryjean]

IMO, Anthony was abused and because of that abuse, he died.
Possibly shaken?

Doubtful if he was shaken to death. Unfortunately, I am somewhat of an expert on this because of my line of work. The child is too big to be shaken- and it is most likely that he was beaten. Shaking does not produce bruises- the telltale signs are retinal bleeding and (of course) brain swelling.

 

[matou]

This reminds me of Lonzie Barton and Ayla Reynolds. I hate this.

 

[otto]

IMO, Anthony was abused and because of that abuse, he died.
Possibly shaken?

With head trauma and bruises all over his body, I doubt the death is due to shaking.

"A 19-month-old boy whose body was found outside an Edmonton church last week suffered a life "full of violence" and died from head trauma some time before he was abandoned, police say."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...rom-head-trauma-edmonton-police-say-1.4082873

 

[MistyWaters]

I understand what you are saying, but there are so many worldwide examples from just the last century (starting with the terror of WW1 and going forward to chemical weapons in Syria) where children are terrorized throughout childhood, and yet they are able to make good choices as adults. At the risk of sounding unsympathetic, I think there is a bit of "fatigue" in the Canadian population with giving special consideration and exception to the aboriginal community ... all my humble opinion. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if the courts go easy on the father, even though beat his child to death, because he is aboriginal.

I can be swayed both directions and I know exactly what you mean. Indeed the aura of political correctness and light sentences does not seem to be introducing a positive trend even though it's a well established fact that aboriginal children (and women) are at far higher risk of abuse and death in Alberta than any other sector.

Presently our NDP govt is attempting to tackle the issue as has been done umpteen times and I have no doubt that Anthony's situation will be closely examined in the pursuit of searching for answers. While Anthony's death is not a racial issue, the topic of aboriginal deaths is indeed a political issue. I'm curious if the courts or Social Services were involved in any way.

At first impression, the father certainly does not meet my definition of a quality caregiver. A fleeting thought while looking at some of the photos of gang/drug involvement crossed my mind. Absolutely a tragic situation, no reason it should have ended the way it did.





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[Gardenista]

Interview with his sister. It was her stroller

https://www.facebook.com/GlobalEdmonton/videos/10154340757130927/

 

[ilovepierre]

With head trauma and bruises all over his body, I doubt the death is due to shaking.

"A 19-month-old boy whose body was found outside an Edmonton church last week suffered a life "full of violence" and died from head trauma some time before he was abandoned, police say."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...rom-head-trauma-edmonton-police-say-1.4082873

Shaking causes head trauma.
But as others have posted, he was too old to have died from SBS.
Regardless of how little Anthony died, it's still tragic
RIP little one.

 

[Tealgrove]

I am sick over this poor child.

I am so tired of asking why. Why? Why do people do this to children? Why?

 

[otto]

I can be swayed both directions and I know exactly what you mean. Indeed the aura of political correctness and light sentences does not seem to be introducing a positive trend even though it's a well established fact that aboriginal children (and women) are at far higher risk of abuse and death in Alberta than any other sector.

Presently our NDP govt is attempting to tackle the issue as has been done umpteen times and I have no doubt that Anthony's situation will be closely examined in the pursuit of searching for answers. While Anthony's death is not a racial issue, the topic of aboriginal deaths is indeed a political issue. I'm curious if the courts or Social Services were involved in any way.

At first impression, the father certainly does not meet my definition of a quality caregiver. A fleeting thought while looking at some of the photos of gang/drug involvement crossed my mind. Absolutely a tragic situation, no reason it should have ended the way it did.
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Thank you! I get it ! Because of residential school history, it is more difficult (perhaps impossible) to place an aboriginal child in a non-aboriginal foster home. If there is no suitable aboriginal caregiver, perhaps this is the inevitable result.

 

[bluesneakers]

Let's not accuse people of making this about race.

I agree with matou - let's keep race out of it. Easy way to avoid it is to simply leave it out. Please. Thanks.

 

[otto]

I agree with matou - let's keep race out of it. Easy way to avoid it is to simply leave it out. Please. Thanks.

Good point. This is about a couple who couldn't have cared less about this child, dragged him around while couch-surfing, and who beat him when he needed care. I have to wonder why mom put her son in the care of a man who didn't have a bed to sleep on.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Let's not make this about race, please. Dad was violent against his kid and did not go to get medical assistance for Anthony for over a month and neither did his girlfriend. We don't even know if Anthony was already dead when he was left at the church. I've followed so many cases of violence, neglect and murder on here and these evil things are global. JMO

Nope, this isn't about race (ethnicity) this is about morality, responsibility, maturity and integrity. Clearly, "dad" was lacking in all of the above.

 

[Sprigs]

Christie Blatchford article:

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-c...y-deserves-more-than-platitudes-and-memorials

 

[otto]

Christie Blatchford article:

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-c...y-deserves-more-than-platitudes-and-memorials

The mom claimed that the child was with the father for only the last month - to help out while the mom was enrolled in some sort of nursing program, yet information that is coming out is that this child was abused throughout his life, and that he had recent and not-recent injuries. That suggests that both parents abused this child. Head trauma was a repeated event.

"The charges suggest that Anthony had injuries both recent and not, that his death, the result of head trauma according to Hunter, was not the result of a sudden single burst of temper, but rather part of ongoing treatment, and that Crier and Mack also failed to get him medical attention."

Contradicting this claim:

"CBC said Crier was looking after Anthony while Raine went to nursing school, though it doesn’t appear she graduated from high school."

And then the story gets muddy:

"Police said the two [accused] were Anthony’s legal guardians."

So why didn't one of the parents or extended family react to the lifetime of abuse and take this child to a doctor?

"Is there in fact another child named Anisa and if so who is caring for her?"

Where is the other child?

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-c...y-deserves-more-than-platitudes-and-memorials

 

[Jules Clues]

While I understand the desire to keep race out of it, here in Canada sentences are usually quite less for aboriginals due to their culture and background being taken into consideration. So in this particular case, I believe race should be discussed because it is relevant.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/sec.the...encing-court-rules/article535585/?service=amp


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[DatelineFan]

I'm going to be so sick if mom was abusive, too. I didn't want to believe it! I still don't want to.

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[DatelineFan]

I really hope during his short life, someone showed Anthony the love and affection he so much deserved!

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[otto]

I'm going to be so sick if mom was abusive, too. I didn't want to believe it! I still don't want to.

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I don't want to believe it either but the news video of mom with two sisters was a bit chilling in the sense that no one was crying. On CBC this morning there was video footage of someone handing them a box of kleenex, but no one needed it. Mom says that the baby was with dad only for the last month because she is in "nursing school", yet she hasn't graduated from high school. Police say that this baby suffered a lifetime of violence, not a month of violence. If the baby was passed back and forth between the two parents for the last 19 months - while the baby experienced a lifetime of violence - then I would say that neither parent did the right thing. Clearly the truth is not yet known.

And ... where is the other child?

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-c...y-deserves-more-than-platitudes-and-memorials

 

[DatelineFan]

I don't want to believe it either but the news video of mom with two sisters was a bit chilling in the sense that no one was crying. On CBC this morning there was video footage of someone handing them a box of kleenex, but no one needed it. Mom says that the baby was with dad only for the last month because she is in "nursing school", yet she hasn't graduated from high school. Police say that this baby suffered a lifetime of violence, not a month of violence. If the baby was passed back and forth between the two parents for the last 19 months - while the baby experienced a lifetime of violence - then I would say that neither parent did the right thing. Clearly the truth is not yet known.

And ... where is the other child?

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-c...y-deserves-more-than-platitudes-and-memorials

I know. And reading you summarize it again gave me chills, and anxiety. It's truly painful to think about beating up on a baby or toddler*. Their innocence is unmatched. Even when they're being little stinkers. This little guy has gripped my heart. Second time since I joined WS that I'm actually tearing up.

*I'm not saying I could imagine beating up on anyone

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[otto]

I know. And reading you summarize it again gave me chills, and anxiety. It's truly painful to think about beating up on a baby or toddler*. Their innocence is unmatched. Even when they're being little stinkers. This little guy has gripped my heart. Second time since I joined WS that I'm actually tearing up.

*I'm not saying I could imagine beating up on anyone

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If drugs are not behind this, then it is cruelty - where their response to a child crying was violence. It's absolutely unbelievable and monstrous. I hope that investigators are spending a good amount of time interviewing mom as well. In the few photos I've seen of the child, I don't think he looks well.

 

[otto]

Here's the CBC video ... heavily edited
Mom in the middle

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-toddler-anthony-joseph-raine-1.4082354