CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #10

[Parsnip]

I’m going to re-up my newspapers.com subscription and contact the reporting org. Will report back. Give me 48 hrs.

 

[Sillybilly]

Yeah, I don't want to sleuth her Stone ... just can't figure out why her name so quickly disappeared from the article. I am questioning the authenticity of the info and seeking clarity on the information.

 

[Parsnip]

Yeah, I don't want to sleuth her Stone ... just can't figure out why her name so quickly disappeared from the article. I am questioning the authenticity of the info and seeking clarity on the information.

Gotcha. This is what weekends are made for.

 

[Claroon]

I am wondering how investigators determined there were no signs of robbery. How would they know what was missing (like if it was a pile of cash she stored under the bed)? Did MSM ever mention ransacking or missing valuables? If the home was cluttered (as some have suggested), wouldn't it have been harder to tell something had been sifted through?

 

[Claroon]

Is there a factual report a trophy was taken or was that speculation and rumour?

 

[Mayjusticeprevail]

I hope so, too. The last message I believe she sent was an Amazing Grace video to her handyman. A song about redemption. However, the same link was sent to another person subsequently. I’m not so certain that she was the one who sent that link. Moo.

I agree, hopefully LE looked into those emails carefully and the video.

Was anything else ever disclosed about her emails or online activity? Was it common for AG to send videos, such as "Amazing Grace," to friends?

If she never sent religious or viral videos normally, a sent video could indicate her account was already compromised and being used to spread malware to her contact list.

Back in 2010, embedding malicious code in media files (MP4s or WMVs) was a frequent tactic. A hacker might send a video to her friends from her account to see who else they could infect.

Hackers and cyberstalkers were quite active in the Hamilton region in 2010, mostly for financial gain. At that time, they could infiltrate a person’s network or computer to monitor their activities and read their emails. This allowed them to learn a target's schedule and plans before showing up at their residence.

 

[Parsnip]

That CHCH article is very strange, very short, with no indication what the updated info is between Jan 3 2011 and 2024. Talk about David Sc***, the homeless person, is from back in the day and he was ruled out.

PK himself was a member here after Jan 3 2011, and told us he was a suspect. There doesn't seem to be any other MSM that picked up on anyone being ruled out. If it's him that's ruled out, that's the most low key, biggest news on Audrey's case in a very long time.

from The Hamilton Spectator article by Jon Wells, August 22 2015 : Who killed Audrey Gleave?

Early in the investigation, a detective told reporters Kinsman had “absolutely” been ruled out as a suspect, but to Kinsman’s eyes that changed.

Really not sure what the update in that CHCH article relates to and I find it totally confusing.

It looks like a mass update. Here’s a link to the reporter’s archive on the site. Click on any article, and you will see that they all have the same 2024 update.

amanda blitz Archives - Page 5 of 5 - CHCH

www.chch.com

 

[Parsnip]

Is there a factual report a trophy was taken or was that speculation and rumour?

Speculation and rumor.

 

[FromGermany1]

Speculation and rumor.

Didn't it originate from Det Hrab himself?

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Didn't it originate from Det Hrab himself?

Yes, it did.

 

[FromGermany1]

I agree, hopefully LE looked into those emails carefully and the video.

Was anything else ever disclosed about her emails or online activity? Was it common for AG to send videos, such as "Amazing Grace," to friends?

If she never sent religious or viral videos normally, a sent video could indicate her account was already compromised and being used to spread malware to her contact list.

Back in 2010, embedding malicious code in media files (MP4s or WMVs) was a frequent tactic. A hacker might send a video to her friends from her account to see who else they could infect.

Hackers and cyberstalkers were quite active in the Hamilton region in 2010, mostly for financial gain. At that time, they could infiltrate a person’s network or computer to monitor their activities and read their emails. This allowed them to learn a target's schedule and plans before showing up at their residence.

I want to mention, that Audrey was a computer expert herself and collected viruses from friends with full intention, because she tried her skills in eliminating them. MOO
So, it is difficult to differ between inserted (unwillingly by AG) and collected (willingly by AG) viruses, if there were found some after her death. Not to forget: her possible "mate" in all computer things, quasi one expert smarter than the other.

 

[Parsnip]

Yes, it did.

He’s the one who said “sexual component.” I don’t believe he ever used the word “trophy.” Iirc.

 

[FromGermany1]

I am wondering how investigators determined there were no signs of robbery. How would they know what was missing (like if it was a pile of cash she stored under the bed)? Did MSM ever mention ransacking or missing valuables? If the home was cluttered (as some have suggested), wouldn't it have been harder to tell something had been sifted through?

I can well imagine, that AG certainly was one of the people, who don't trust a financial institution 100%. No wonder, if she had cash in her home. But of course I don't know; it's only a feeling.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Please remind me, how do we know AG kept cash at home. How did she pay for the car?

 

[FromGermany1]

Please remind me, how do we know AG kept cash at home. How did she pay for the car?

I don't know, if we know.

We also thought about her new built-in oven and how she might have paid for it.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I don't know, if we know.

We also thought about her new built-in oven and how she might have paid for it.

Well then, IF we don't know why are we saying it? Maybe she was "said" to be tight with her money but........

 

[Sillybilly]

Speculation and rumor.

It was discussed in earlier threads and I recall it quite distinctly.

I think references have been scrubbed from the web due to holdback, but I managed to find this one:

from one of Jon Wells' articles "Darkness on Indian Trail" in the Hamilton Spectator:

Hrab revealed little else. Additional pieces of the picture were details only the killer would know, what investigators call “hold-back evidence.”
He spoke of a vicious stabbing but did not talk about other weapons — at least one other had been used — or the nature of the “sexual component” (it had included a perverse act that went beyond a conventional assault; the killer had taken something from the victim as though making off with a souvenir.)
Hrab stood in a topcoat against a cold wind, addressing reporters on Indian Trail, yellow crime scene tape hanging from Audrey’s new mailbox.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

It was discussed in earlier threads and I recall it quite distinctly.

I think references have been scrubbed from the web due to holdback, but I managed to find this one:

from one of Jon Wells' articles "Darkness on Indian Trail" in the Hamilton Spectator:

Thank you, SB. I take souvenir to mean trophy. They are both something one takes home to remember the event. Semantics. MOO