CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #6

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[<<< The base model LS comes equipped with OnStar, 18-inch rims, and a 300-hp V6 engine, and the only optional item is floor mats

Perhaps all models come equipped but does one have to pay a fee to make use of the service? I believe that was the way it was a few years ago when we bought our truck... which I suppose is still equipped with OnStar but we do not use it.

HTH

 

[Valleyboy]

On star is available for a monthly fee From $25.00 to $40.00 depending on what you want.

It is no longer just available for GM cars

Any car have have it installed for a fee.

 

[Jade]

From Silly Billy's post with the Spec link

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/594717--audrey-s-story-continues

I forgot about this:

There are items missing from Audrey's house, he says. What they are, he won't say. Valuables? Trophies?

Some items have been found during the ground searches. He again won't say what they are and adds detectives do not know for sure they relate to the homicide.

Are the &#8220;items&#8221; missing from the house included in the &#8220;some items&#8221; found during the ground search?


BBM

 

[Jade]

Reading more at Silly Billy&#8217;s links:

PK says using the key pad was routine upon his arrival.

When he visited, Phil would push the number code on the keypad outside the automatic garage door, meet her in the garage, then chat either inside or out. That was the routine.

He did not go to Audrey's front door. He always entered through the garage. He walked to the twin automatic garage doors outside.

He punched in the code on the keypad. The door rose. The Camaro was parked in its usual spot, both its doors closed.

That's when he saw her, he said, on the garage floor, lying on her back.

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/594717--audrey-s-story-continues

It seems inconsistent with his statement on WS about the keypad:

She gave it to me - she said - in case I ever needed to come while she was out and get tools out of the garage to work.

I always found that a bit odd since I never, ever visited when she wasn't home but I never thought enough of it to ask her about it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7145607#post7145607

He says it was an oddity that she gave it to him, a just in case matter.

Perhaps I am missing pieces of his postings that make it more clear when it went from just in case to every time.


All IMO

 

[Sillybilly]

Perhaps I am missing pieces of his postings that make it more clear when it went from just in case to every time.

All IMO

IMO, you aren't missing anything Jade ... they are two seemingly inconsistent remarks, the first being in the non-routine, potential event, and the other wrt it being their "routine".

 

[colette]

Maybe when she first gave him the code it was only to use in case she wasn't home, but as time went on that changed to meeting in the garage. He worked for her a long time.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Maybe when she first gave him the code it was only to use in case she wasn't home, but as time went on that changed to meeting in the garage. He worked for her a long time.

But, WHY give the code to HIM and only HIM? We're missing something here - we wouldn't give the garage code to anyone! And we have people who 'work for us' -snow removal, lawn cutting and grass fertilising, lots of guys. But hubby and I ONLY have the garage code!!

 

[colette]

But, WHY give the code to HIM and only HIM? We're missing something here - we wouldn't give the garage code to anyone! And we have people who 'work for us' -snow removal, lawn cutting and grass fertilising, lots of guys. But hubby and I ONLY have the garage code!!

Maybe he was like a son or family. It sounds like he was the only one who actually entered the home too.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Maybe he was like a son or family. It sounds like he was the only one who actually entered the home too.

And I still ask WHY him and ONLY HIM? The key word you used is "like" a son/family. Fact is........he's neither.

:twocents:

 

[colette]

Audrey wasn't close to her family, she was close to her friends.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Audrey wasn't close to her family, she was close to her friends.

Agreed! So why not share the code also with LV, a friend for 30+ years. Or with the coffee group people(a person)? Or with the woman acrss the street?

:coffeecup:

 

[colette]

Agreed! So why not share the code also with LV, a friend for 30+ years. Or with the coffee group people(a person)? Or with the woman acrss the street?

:coffeecup:

Because they have no reason to enter, whereas PK was working around Audrey's home.

 

[colette]

<modsnip>

Not sure what you are saying.
I think Audrey tended to have a messy home and did not have people in for that reason. (also she was a very private person) She probably had to let PK in to fix something at some point so she might have developed a trust in him. Neighbors probably only sat on the benches in good weather. Just a guess, but it makes sense to me why PK had the code and others didn't.

 

[colette]

Yes!! You're absolutely right. PK was the only one who needed the code.

:twocents:

There may be others who " needed" the code but being such a private person they didn't get it.

 

[roseofsharon]

Maybe he was like a son or family. It sounds like he was the only one who actually entered the home too.

Just imo, but if AG thought PK was like a son or a family member, wouldn't she have offered him at least a cup of coffee or invite him to watch one of her favourite shows? Isn't this what family and friends do, if not more?

:moo:
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/594717--audrey-s-story-continues

 

[roseofsharon]

Audrey wasn't close to her family, she was close to her friends.

Whom was AG's family? IIRC, A did not have any family. imo

 

[roseofsharon]

There may be others who " needed" the code but being such a private person they didn't get it.

AG wanted PK to have the code, but really wonder why LV, her friend of three decades, was not given the code. imo

 

[Sillybilly]

AG wanted PK to have the code, but really wonder why LV, her friend of three decades, was not given the code. imo

I agree ... most people would rather die knowing that a dear, understanding, mature friend would deal with private issues upon their demise (ya know .. hiding the stuff .. undies, bedsocks, dentures, etc) rather than a much younger member of the opposite sex.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Whom was AG's family? IIRC, A did not have any family. imo

Perhaps the poster meant Audrey's ex-husbands, the BIL? :dunno:

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I agree ... most people would rather die knowing that a dear, understanding, mature friend would deal with private issues upon their demise (ya know .. hiding the stuff .. undies, bedsocks, dentures, etc) rather than a much younger member of the opposite sex.

You got that right!! I don't want a 20-year-old male seeing my face creme for "mature skin" and my arthritis and blood pressure meds! Geez. :floorlaugh: