CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #7

[Pink Panther]

I've searched high and low for the 1967 article/pic of AG building her own tv set and finally noticed that it was in a series of photos included in this article:

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2215939-who-is-audrey-gleave/

For those of you who might be interested, it is pic 5 of 5 that scrolls through on the top right when you access the above link.

ETA - I love that picture of her!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Back to semantics - I've noticed that LE often use the phrase "We are actively searching for Mr. X who was last seen driving a red Corvette. He is not a POI nor a suspect, we just want to speak with him". And then later it turns out that Mr. X is the perp in the crime!

LE have their little ways of finding the perp.

But then again......they did arrest DLS and basically botched the Audrey murder. :stormingmad:

 

[Pink Panther]

I found this today:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...-moved-to-wellington-charged-with-atte/nWxbf/

http://www.andrewdstine.com/blog-78/636-charged-with-attempting-to-engage-minor-in-sex.aspx

http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/fl-bso/2013-03-22/jonathan-vanstone-901300278

 

[Pink Panther]

Another link that brings this and that together:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanstone

ETA - Didn't AG own a horse at some point?

moo

 

[dotr]

I found this today:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...-moved-to-wellington-charged-with-atte/nWxbf/

http://www.andrewdstine.com/blog-78/636-charged-with-attempting-to-engage-minor-in-sex.aspx

http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/fl-bso/2013-03-22/jonathan-vanstone-901300278

Great find!
Very interesting, am reminded of DM's " crew "somehow.

 

[Woodland]

Another link that brings this and that together:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanstone

ETA - Didn't AG own a horse at some point?

moo

That's an interesting link Pink Panther - Caledon Equestrian Park is very near where SV was found and her vehicle was found park behind a Tack Shop.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

A random killing? With the way she was (secretive/protective)??? No way, no how.

The car as motive? Why didn't they take it? And why assault her sexually while trying to do so? Ah....No. Doesn't make sense. moo

Whoever killed Audrey, knew her. They knew her phobias and her habits.

moo

Thanks for several "welcome" to you Users!
With the program I have my difficulties if I want to do anything - that BTW.

I fully agree with Pink Panther!

 

[dotr]

Waay back there had been discussion here concerning the possibility that Audrey may have been perceived as gay and attacked for that reason.
This link has pics of all 3 poi who attacked a 48 year old woman...
bbm.

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/pdfs/26720.pdf

"The Toronto Police Service is alerting the public to a sexual assault.
It has been reported that:
− on Monday, April 15, 2013, between midnight and 3 a.m., a 48−year−old woman was
walking on Gloucester Street, east of Yonge Street
− she was approached from behind by three men who made derogatory comments to her
regarding her sexual orientation
− the three men forced her to Norman Jewison Park where she was sexually assaulted
The men are described as:
1) white, approximately 30, 6’, medium build, dark−brown curly hair, with a scar on his chin.
He was wearing a dark T−shirt with a Budweiser logo, jeans, and a dark windbreaker.
2) white, approximately 20, 5’9", thin build, and had facial acne. He was wearing a grey/blue
hoodie with a Maple Leaf logo.
3) light−tanned complexion, late 20s, 5’9” to 6’, with a heavy build, and short dark hair. He
was wearing a dark shirt and a jacket".

 

[Pink Panther]

That's an interesting link Pink Panther - Caledon Equestrian Park is very near where SV was found and her vehicle was found park behind a Tack Shop.

I did not know this. Thanks.

 

[Pink Panther]

Sorry if this has been discussed but I have been unable to determine if LV or RV have children??? Does anyone know?

 

[Sillybilly]

Could be nothing, but one of Dellen Millard's close associate's grandmother's maiden name was Bohnert (note spelling as opposed to Bohnart). Am wondering if we have the correct surname spelling of AG's former hubby.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Sorry if this has been discussed but I have been unable to determine if LV or RV have children??? Does anyone know?

THIS IS MERELY A GUESS ON MY PART:

I'd say NO that LV has a husband and children. To explain my reasoning - in the Christmas pic we saw of AG and LV there didn't *seem* to be others there except for RV who possibly took the photo.

Another resson is that LV said she visited with Audrey alone, on the bench. Wouldn't a husband/partner come along every once in a while?

As always......I could be way off base here!

:twocents:

 

[roseofsharon]

THIS IS MERELY A GUESS ON MY PART:

I'd say NO that LV has a husband and children. To explain my reasoning - in the Christmas pic we saw of AG and LV there didn't *seem* to be others there except for RV who possibly took the photo.

Another resson is that LV said she visited with Audrey alone, on the bench. Wouldn't a husband/partner come along every once in a while?

As always......I could be way off base here!

:twocents:

Here is the obituary for LV's mother. There are two grandchildren, however, not sure if they are JV's or RV's children.

http://yourlifemoments.ca/sitepages/obituary.asp?oid=406543

 

[roseofsharon]

If this JV is LV's nephew, he must have known AG very well, as well as AG would have allowed that is.

AG would have known JV all his life and may have shared many xmas meals at LV's home over the years.

I wonder when this JV moved to Florida? It appears he has gained some weight and changed his hair colour since his FB profile picture.

imo

 

[Pink Panther]

If this JV is LV's nephew, he must have known AG very well, as well as AG would have allowed that is.

AG would have known JV all his life and may have shared many xmas meals at LV's home over the years.

I wonder when this JV moved to Florida? It appears he has gained some weight and changed his hair colour since his FB profile picture.

imo

I never thought about the Christmas dinners but you're absolutely right. Interesting.

 

[Pink Panther]

Could be nothing, but one of Dellen Millard's close associate's grandmother's maiden name was Bohnert (note spelling as opposed to Bohnart). Am wondering if we have the correct surname spelling of AG's former hubby.

Could well be...BohnERT seems to be more common.

moo

 

[dotr]

Some here had wondered if Audrey encountered her killer at the nearby cemetery.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/1...-severe-sexual-assault-in-pine-hills-cemetery

"TORONTO - It was a summer afternoon, her work was done and so she drove to Pine Hills Cemetery as she often did, to visit her mother’s grave and to tend to her plot.

It was supposed to be an interlude of calm and reflection for the 61-year-old woman. Instead, it would turn into a horrific nightmare that would shock Toronto and leave her scarred to this day.

It was about 5:30 p.m. on July 12, 2010 and she was strolling along a paved path near her mother’s grave when she was suddenly attacked from behind. Russell Kirkpatrick, a man with a violent history who lived at a homeless shelter nearby, dragged her off the path, brutally beat her and sexually assaulted her. And though she fought back as best she could, his hands choked her into unconsciousness"

 

[Sillybilly]

This link has pics of all 3 poi who attacked a 48 year old woman...
bbm.

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/pdfs/26720.pdf

I don't see a link to the pics, dotr. Is there perhaps another article?

Pretty sad when you get to be 48, probably comfortable in your own skin, and have a bunch of thugs assume they know your personal life, including your sexual orientation, and attack and assault you for that or any other reason.

 

[Sillybilly]

If this JV is LV's nephew, he must have known AG very well, as well as AG would have allowed that is.

AG would have known JV all his life and may have shared many xmas meals at LV's home over the years.

I wonder when this JV moved to Florida? It appears he has gained some weight and changed his hair colour since his FB profile picture.

imo

<bbm>

Where'd you see that part about Florida, rose?

Interesting that AG specified everything would go to RV if LV did not survive AG. I wonder why she wouldn't include LV's other brother in her LWT.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I would like to ask wether AG really didn't have contact to Allan and/or David Gleave round about 30 years? Who did asset this and who is able to confirm with? AG didn't always say the truth about her mother for example who one day supposed to have "disappeared".

Jon Mells 9/21/2011: "In the spring. Allan Gleave was in Hamilton with his wife, visiting his mother. He drove up to see the house he had designed. ..."
Did he never before visit his mother (for example on Christmas) and never before look at his own-designed house but after the terrible death of his ex-wife??

Questions about questions but important for me not always thinking in a circle. Thank you!