CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #17

[Gina20]

I am guessing that the police have not said. Correct me if I am wrong. This is the first we have heard of this suspect.

You are correct. They have not said. I'm thinking of what might have triggered this release now, aside from the fourth anniversary of the murders. The house down the street burned down in October 2021.

 

[CAMBRIAN]

The police put this video into the public domain, asking the public to make note of the strange gait. Obviously they think the gait is important enough to put forward after four years, and they want us to think about it. They called this person a "suspect", not a "person of interest".

Good Point !

 

[CAMBRIAN]

The police put this video into the public domain, asking the public to make note of the strange gait. Obviously they think the gait is important enough to put forward after four years, and they want us to think about it. They called this person a "suspect", not a "person of interest".

Good Point !

 

[Tobiano8th]

good comments everyone....

can the person who talked about russian KGB (??) teaching people to walk as this mystery person did please expand upon it? it is very very interesting theory. (and to me, it is obvious this is the type of person you might hire for this action.... not sure anyone GOOD AND LOCAL would do it.

also, one the person being an amputee and/or brain damaged, that is a long way to walk on a cold winter night.....

i wonder if the "assasin" had a backup plan if the police got to the house unexpectedly very fast.. i.e. a car tailing him to pick him up if necessary.

as for M/S, highly unlikely...... BUT, still don't see how TPD got it so wrong for such a long period of time. surely, if it was SO OBVIOUS it wasn't M/S, it should have been obvious to TPD too...... do people think this would still be M/S if the victims were poor immigrant husband/wife?

 

[Tobiano8th]

also, i haven't read everything online, and i doubt TPS is sharing everything they know... but i'm thinking from everything that's out there and forum user's comments that this "limper" is almost assuredly the assasin.

 

[dotr]

I got lost here. "Trading cryto" What is that? "Screenshotting (shooting?) his key" What key? How do we know this?

Where Was Barry Sherman's Son On The Night Of His Billionaire Parents' Unsolved Murders?
By:Wendy Hermanson
Jan. 26 2021
''Jonathon Sherman, the 37-year-old son of late billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman, has spoken out following reports of an alleged request for him to repay his dad tens of millions of dollars just weeks before his parents were found dead in their Toronto home.

In a lengthy new interview, Jonathon revealed that he has evidence that he was elsewhere the night of December 13, which is allegedly when his parents were slain sometime between a police estimate of 9 p.m. to midnight.''

He shared a photo he had taken of his hand on his phone that night, which was dated and had a timestamp of 7:17 p.m. The report noted that the location of his home was also visible in the photo. ''

Marijuana Stocks: Bitcoin Boom Created Obstacle For Marijuana Industry Companies Going Public

• BILL PETERS 05/23/2018
• ''But amid the rush of blockchain and marijuana companies to scoop them up, the remaining "clean" shell companies find themselves with greater influence.
  
  "There's certainly been more leverage being put into the hands of some of these shell companies, particularly for U.S. cannabis businesses," said Jonathan Sherman, an associate at Cassels Brock, a law firm that advises on the marijuana industry.
  
  Cassels Brock, in a recent report, said frequent use of shell companies for reverse takeovers had led to a "shortage." Demand, it said, has spiked. The available shell companies thus have greater ability to negotiate better, higher-priced deals for themselves.
  
  Those deals are increasingly important to marijuana companies in the U.S., which still prohibits pot on a federal level.''
  

 

[Gina20]

good comments everyone....

can the person who talked about russian KGB (??) teaching people to walk as this mystery person did please expand upon it? it is very very interesting theory. (and to me, it is obvious this is the type of person you might hire for this action.... not sure anyone GOOD AND LOCAL would do it.

also, one the person being an amputee and/or brain damaged, that is a long way to walk on a cold winter night.....

i wonder if the "assasin" had a backup plan if the police got to the house unexpectedly very fast.. i.e. a car tailing him to pick him up if necessary.

as for M/S, highly unlikely...... BUT, still don't see how TPD got it so wrong for such a long period of time. surely, if it was SO OBVIOUS it wasn't M/S, it should have been obvious to TPD too...... do people think this would still be M/S if the victims were poor immigrant husband/wife?

The people who did this research are neurologists:

“Gunslinger’s gait”: a new cause of unilaterally reduced arm swing

They describe the gait as an indication of "weapons training". It was explained in a KGB training manual, but the implications of weapons training are broader.

 

[TGIRecovered]

The people who did this research are neurologists:

“Gunslinger’s gait”: a new cause of unilaterally reduced arm swing

They describe the gait as an indication of "weapons training". It was explained in a KGB training manual, but the implications of weapons training are broader.

Fascinating article, thanks Gina20!

One thing that stood out to me was the similarity in the gait and posture between the Russian dignitaries, (videos in article), and our own U.S. Secret Service who hide rapid-fire weapons under a coat with a fake arm.

I don't remember where I learned about the fake arm disguise for SS so MOO.

 

[Errrr]

JMO, if the motive for the murders is monetary, the killer or person who hired them would have likely been on a short list of suspects. There were a limited number of people who stood to benefit from the deaths of the Shermans. The guilty party probably thought staging it as a murder/suicide would cast suspicion away from those close to the couple. JMO

Except the person doing the staging did a terrible job. It looked like someone doing a murder suicide trying to make it look like a double homicide. Unless, the murderer deliberately made it look like an inept attempt by the murder suicide to make it look like a double murder!!

 

[Errrr]

I have to disagree. The reason a crime scene is staged is to deceive investigators and displaying the bodies by the pool was done intentionally. The significance of Barry appearing to have murdered his wife can’t be overlooked. IMO the obvious intent was posthumous to cast shame upon him, destroying his reputation. Domestic violence would forever darken his name. In no way can that be compared to one who’s a victim of an assassination.

It’s so hard to blush when you’re dead though.

 

[north_west]

The person seen walking in the video proves only one thing: that a person walked in front of a camera at that particular spot. IMO, KGB walks, strange gait, age of walker, etc., are pure speculations at this stage. Unless LE are keeping other cards close to their chest, it lacks any relation to the deaths of BS and HS. Which brings me back to my own version: M/S. Just my opinion !

The police said they have more footage of the same person. At the presser a reporter asked a question about why this was the first time the term suspect was being used and why this person could potentially be eliminated and why they were a suspect versus a person of interest.

DSBP replied: "So this footage is not the only footage of this individual that we have, we have done an exhaustive video canvas of the whole area. And we have, based on the timing of when we understand, when we believe, the murders took place, we have this individual coming into a very defined area ah, surr…around the Sherman's household and remaining in that area for a period and then leaving from that area. So we have been unable to identify what purpose that person had to be within that defined area. And therefore and the timing is, is in line with our belief as to when this, these murders took place. And so that is why we classify this individual as a suspect."

 

[BaffleMe]

I don't know. Apotex would still exist, and the work might continue!??

 

[BaffleMe]

You are correct. They have not said. I'm thinking of what might have triggered this release now, aside from the fourth anniversary of the murders. The house down the street burned down in October 2021.

Meaning the house burning down could be related to this case?

 

[William_60]

I don't know how religious the Shermans were. Would they have recited Psalm 91 before heading on their trip?

If they were devout, maybe that Psalm, which was the house number of their new property, was meaningful to them.

Psalm 91 - Wikipedia

Barry was an atheist. Longtime posters to this case will likely recall a posting of Barry’s written thoughts on the subject of God and an afterlife…(as part of a book?).

The link - which I’d love to find - is somewhere in earlier threads (5-9, just guessing).

If I find it - and I WILL try to locate it - I will gladly re-post those written thoughts.

 

[WINDSOR]

With regards to that nerve agent attack on a former Russian mole, IMO it was not British police that lead that investigation, but the UK spy agency MI6.

Similar to how the Twin Towers investigation wasn't NYPD, but the CIA.

Those cases were obviously related to international terrorism, Canada has CSIS to investigate those things, which they do even more covertly than police. I think if there were any suggestion of foreign organizations sending agents to assassinate Canadian citizens, the case wouldn't be in the hands of TPS.

Nothing to say there are not two parallel investigations. A public one by the TPS and a secret one by CSIS, with a level of cooperation between all parties.

 

[WINDSOR]

Based on requests the TPS had made from the courts, stating that they believed that the Shermans were being 'monitored/observed' prior to their deaths. I think these murders were well financed, as surveillance work is time consuming and expensive.

The team would do surveillance work for very important reasons. The Hit Team would want to know if the Shermans had an active security detail protecting them. They would also want to know if there was any informal or ad hoc security, such as a TPS patrol car cruising the neighbourhood on some nights. Or if the neighbour walks their dogs at 7:30pm every night, or even when and how the garbage is picked up, or when parking enforcement is in the area.

The fact the the TPS believes there was prior surveillance, points to the fact that the perpetrator(s) made a decision a number of months before the Shermans deaths to go forward with the planning. In that case I think we must consider events that occurred earlier, maybe in the spring or summer of 2017 that could have triggered the murder planning.

 

[FromGermany1]

Based on requests the TPS had made from the courts, stating that they believed that the Shermans were being 'monitored/observed' prior to their deaths. I think these murders were well financed, as surveillance work is time consuming and expensive.

The team would do surveillance work for very important reasons. The Hit Team would want to know if the Shermans had an active security detail protecting them. They would also want to know if there was any informal or ad hoc security, such as a TPS patrol car cruising the neighbourhood on some nights. Or if the neighbour walks their dogs at 7:30pm every night, or even when and how the garbage is picked up, or when parking enforcement is in the area.

The fact the the TPS believes there was prior surveillance, points to the fact that the perpetrator(s) made a decision a number of months before the Shermans deaths to go forward with the planning. In that case I think we must consider events that occurred earlier, maybe in the spring or summer of 2017 that could have triggered the murder planning.

If "the team" observed the Old Colony home incl Barry and Honey, they had to run the hit no later than before the Florida journey and the S' returning from their vacation to a different transitional apartment. The organisator had plenty of time for creating his alibi, being beneficial to the person. Being absent from the Old Colony area, booking a flight to somewhere, even planning business meetings would have been easy feasible, I think. That's a good plan for once!

 

[FromGermany1]

Barry was an atheist. Longtime posters to this case will likely recall a posting of Barry’s written thoughts on the subject of God and an afterlife…(as part of a book?).

The link - which I’d love to find - is somewhere in earlier threads (5-9, just guessing).

If I find it - and I WILL try to locate it - I will gladly re-post those written thoughts.

Barry Sherman wrote frankly about atheist convictions in unfinished memoir
Barring the existence of God, and free will, Sherman wrote: “Life has no meaning or purpose.”

“ ‘Meaning’ and ‘purpose’ are, by definition, dependant on an intelligent being having an intent in mind. A corollary of the nonexistence of a ‘God’ is that we are here with no ‘meaning’ or ‘purpose’ to our lives,” he wrote.

Instincts, rather than God, explain humans’ pursuits of happiness and success — including his own, Sherman wrote.

 

[FromGermany1]

It is well known that Barry was a genius, literally a rocket scientist before he got into pharmaceuticals. Before his death, I read on the internet, sorry I cannot remember where, that he was working on a synthetic version of Cannabis. I assume that could be patentable, with epic financial consequences. Whether or not this would have had anything to do with his death, and Honey's I do not know, but if anyone, or any company, or even any country planned to steal it, or wanted to eliminate the competition, it might have been a motive. Just speculating. IMO

WARMINGTON: Investigators should 'follow the money' to ...
https://torontosun.com › local-news
04.12.2020 — In this Oct. 15, 2017 photo, Barry and Honey Sherman pose for a photo in ... an exciting new synthetic cannabis medication to treat anxiety.
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Barry Sherman was helping to develop 'pot pill' for medical ...
https://www.thestar.com › news › gta
25.03.2018 — A year before his murder, the Apotex founder had agreed to work with CannTrust to produce a slow-release medical marijuana pill that would ...
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HTH (Sometimes I can't open it myself.)

 

[William_60]

Barry Sherman wrote frankly about atheist convictions in unfinished memoir
Barring the existence of God, and free will, Sherman wrote: “Life has no meaning or purpose.”

“ ‘Meaning’ and ‘purpose’ are, by definition, dependant on an intelligent being having an intent in mind. A corollary of the nonexistence of a ‘God’ is that we are here with no ‘meaning’ or ‘purpose’ to our lives,” he wrote.

Instincts, rather than God, explain humans’ pursuits of happiness and success — including his own, Sherman wrote.

Great work @FromGermany1 !!!