Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #3

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If B & H met with the architect shortly before they died I'd like to know what the architect had to say about their demeanor and behavior. Were they getting along? Arguing? Distant? The house staff certainly must have seen a lot in their relationship. All unknown to us.

Does anyone have a link for the above? Who originally said that they had met with the architect on Wednesday night?
 
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Does anyone have a link for the above? Who originally said that they had met with the architect on Wednesday night?

The only place we’ve seen anything about the Shermans “apparently” meeting with the architect is in something called “Frank”...not MSM at all, so I’m not going to link it. There were many things said in that article that have been hashed over and over here, so I don’t want to start the cycle again. :) Bottom line, we basically know nothing much, including whether they met with the architect.
 
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I would like to know this information too it would be useful.

Assuming the police have interviewed all of these possible witnesses, why would the public know anything until a potential inquest or even a criminal trial.
 
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There are several studies, which suggest that the human brain continues to develop until the around the age of 25. Additionally, the studies indicate that the developing brain is negatively affected by the use of marijuana. Also, studies indicated that psychosis and other mental health issues may develop as the result of regular marijuana use while the brain is still developing.

A few sources are as follows:
http://www.thecannabist.co/2014/11/17/marijuana-young-brain-study/23251/

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/lif...ffects-of-marijuana-on-teens/article21127612/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930618/

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-long-term-effects-brain

I don't want to derail this thread, but the studies just aren't there to support the psychosis theory. I know it is widely supported by child psychologists, but I feel that is because cannabis threatens their prescription drugs they love to prescribe.

Two of those studies are funded by agencies against the use of marijuana.

I don't know how, without a controlled study, one can conclude marijuana is the cause of psychosis - when there are a million other factors that can also be at play in the development of a child/teen brain - genetics, parenting, food, life experiences,coping, etc. The psychiatric side is trying it's hardest to eliminate marijuana as a positive medical substance.

Regarding smoking weed being as cancer causing as smoking - not true; https://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20060523/pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer#1

http://norml.org/component/zoo/category/cannabis-smoke-and-cancer-assessing-the-risk

That being said, I do think oils, edibles are the way of the future, and that there are not really enough long term large studies on these things yet to be %100 certain.
 
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/barry-...t-earned-billions-on-generic-drugs-1515166200
By James R. Hagerty

Updated Jan. 5, 2018 11:28 a.m. ET
Barry Sherman Complained of Fatigue but Earned Billions on Generic Drugs

Apotex founder feared retaliation from pharmaceutical-industry rivals
Barry Sherman was stiff in social settings and suffered from what he called chronic lethargy and fatigue. He wrote in a memoir that life had no meaning or purpose.

Yet the Canadian entrepreneur was fiercely ambitious in building up the generic-drug company that made him a billionaire, Apotex Inc., and enjoyed the influence he got from his donations to medical, educational and other causes.

He also feared retaliation from rivals. “The branded drug companies hate us,” he said in an interview excerpted in a 2001 book by Jeffrey Robinson. “They have private investigators on us all the time. The thought once came to my mind, why didn’t they just hire someone to knock me off?”
When Barry was 10, his father died of a heart attack. “I do not recall feeling any great sense of loss upon my father’s death,” he wrote.

For the next few years, he was sent to a summer camp he likened to prison. At 16, he signed up for a student militia organized by the Canadian army. “I did not enjoy that summer either,” he wrote. “I was, and always have been, reluctant to submit to any authority.”
Rbbm.
Prescription Games: Money, Ego and Power Inside the Global Pharmaceutical Industry
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Jeffrey Robinson
Simon & Schuster, 2001 - Pharmaceutical industry - 343 pages
A handful of companies control the global pharmaceutical market, developing, producing and marketing drugs on which the health of the world's population is dependent. Undoubtedly these giants make a positive contribution to the overall benefit of mankind - together they form the single most important industry in expanding the life expectancy of the human race - but their activities have caused many to question whether their dedication to their own financial gain is often at the expense of health.
The pharmaceutical companies surround themselves in secrecy, but questions are beginning to be asked. Are they using espionage to get ahead, spend whatever is necessary to subvert any political process threatening their advancement? Have some descended to using force to protect their own interests? They have been accused of buying scientists and actively hindering competitors; and when they distribute products into the Third World are they always scrupulous in ensuring that the drugs are suited for Third World consumption? Are some of them sufficiently careful to ensure that, when they buy their way into markets, the drugs they are selling are not dangerous?
Jeffrey Robinson turns his attention to the giants of the pharmaceutical industry, revealing shocking truths about the companies who we are dependent on for the our most precious gift - our health.
https://books.google.ca/books/about/Prescription_Games.html?id=oBq9kgEACAAJ&redir_esc=y
 
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100% agree, all those could be valid reasons for putting a property in one spouse's name. I wouldn't think twice about it... Except...

the current house is titled in both names. So why the difference? Any of those reasons for holding title in Honey's name would be just as valid with the current house.

And that the current house was bought 20+ years ago and they just never changed it just doesn't cut it. It would be a very minor task for an attorney to draw up and file paperwork to remove Barry from the title, and they certainly had regular contact with attorneys and likely had their estate plan reviewed and updated annually.

So why the difference?

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I had property in my name. I could go to banks, whatever, without the need for my husband to take time off from work to be there. I could sign papers by myself. A lot less hassle when you are united in your views and goals.
 
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It is very sad this dream home will never be built or enjoyed by the Sherman’s.

My hubby and I rent a house. We share the bedroom but I have my bathroom and he has his. We refer to it as a 2 holer. Best thing ever
 
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My hubby and I rent a house. We share the bedroom but I have my bathroom and he has his. We refer to it as a 2 holer. Best thing ever

OT: Ha! Too funny. 😂 We rent a two-holer too. Love it!
 
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Its been bitterly cold here in TO. Theres more to come, both dreadful cold and snow starting again on the weekend. Brrrr

Ive heard there will be snow as far south as Florida.

Here, Melbourne, Australia forecast to be 42 degrees Centigrade.
I don't know what it's like to have a Brrr weekend.

My little dog, has already had 2 dips into the bath, to cool down, and it is only 11AM.
 
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It really makes you wonder if Barry suffered from depression I battle it every day and have felt the same way about life although we have nothing in common.
I can't see the article. How did Barry feel about life?
 
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I can't see the article. How did Barry feel about life?

This stands out to me from the quote above.

“Barry Sherman was stiff in social settings and suffered from what he called chronic lethargy and fatigue. He wrote in a memoir that life had no meaning or purpose.”
 
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This stands out to me from the quote above.

“Barry Sherman was stiff in social settings and suffered from what he called chronic lethargy and fatigue. He wrote in a memoir that life had no meaning or purpose.”
It would be interesting to know if he ever sought treatment for his symptoms. They certainly sound consistent with depression.
 
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OT: Ha! Too funny. [emoji23] We rent a two-holer too. Love it!
We have had a "men's" room and a "ladies" room since my daughter was about 8! Each cleaned their own. My kids are grown and.living on their own now.
Best idea ever!
I don't find it to be the beginning of a divorce for the Sherman's at all!

MOO

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This stands out to me from the quote above.

“Barry Sherman was stiff in social settings and suffered from what he called chronic lethargy and fatigue. He wrote in a memoir that life had no meaning or purpose.”
Well... I don't like the sound of that![emoji53]

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He certainly was not 'lethargic' about stealing patents or other things that other people had invented for his own financial gain. I think that he was an opportunist that was only interested in gaining his own wealth riding on the backs of others.
 
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He certainly was not 'lethargic' about stealing patents or other things that other people had invented for his own financial gain. I think that he was an opportunist that was only interested in gaining his own wealth riding on the backs of others.

The patent thing is often paid for by the govt in the US. For instance, the epipen.

Pharma does all kinds of tricks to keep their patents such as changing the size of the pill. My pharmacist told me that when I asked about a med. I do not recall which as it was awhile ago.

Lower costs of meds are critical in the US which does not have universal health care. It is a trip in terror. Some people cut meds in half or do without.

Barry said people do not do things altruistically He got money, but he did share it.

How many rich people do that? Some buy gold toilets and gold leaf their furniture
 
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