Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #7

[nuff]

Something that is curious to me is the fact that the MacArthur serial killer case in Toronto is getting almost daily coverage in the media while there is little or no media coverage regarding the Sherman case.

Now the media interest may be driven by regular police updates and press conferences about MacArthur, and there has been almost nothing recently from the police regarding the Shermans.

No doubt the MacArthur case being more much sensational drives the media interest. I wonder if the media interest then drives the Police investigation in terms of resources and investigators allocated to each case. Makes one think.

Sadly, there is new information (and new charges) with McArthur, whereas I don't think there is any new information (or at least information that can be made public) with the Sherman case. The media keep publishing articles about the Shermans, but most just rehash old or irrelevant information. Unless / until TPS and the Crown are ready to lay charges, I doubt we'll hear anything more from them.

 

[MrsThreadgoode]

Totally my opinion, but I believe that the police investigating the Sherman murders are working diligently sorting through mountains of documents, as well as interviewing people.

The reason we aren’t hearing anything re the Sherman investigation is because there is no need to satisfy the public’s curiousity. If the police find that it is necessary and helpful to them to involve the public, that is the only time we will hear from them, until an arrest is made.

The BM case is quite different, because the police have and do require the public’s assistance to perhaps further their investigation.

Leads me to believe that the Sherman investigators do not need the public’s help at this time.

MOO


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[ldlager]

Totally my opinion, but I believe that the police investigating the Sherman murders are working diligently sorting through mountains of documents, as well as interviewing people.

The reason we aren’t hearing anything re the Sherman investigation is because there is no need to satisfy the public’s curiousity. If the police find that it is necessary and helpful to them to involve the public, that is the only time we will hear from them, until an arrest is made.

The BM case is quite different, because the police have and do require the public’s assistance to perhaps further their investigation.

Leads me to believe that the Sherman investigators do not need the public’s help at this time.

MOO


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Quite a switch now- by many accounts the police didn't fully heed or act on public warnings and information for a number of years in the BM case. Now they want and need the public's help. Sad but true.

 

[dotr]

Remember..
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...ry-and-honey-sherman-murder-probe-police.html

Toronto Police are planning more search warrants in the Barry and Honey Sherman murder probe and may use “surreptitious or covert” techniques to find the killer or killers, according to police documents.

[h=1]‘Covert’ tactics, more search warrants may be coming in Barry and Honey Sherman murder probe: Police[/h]Toronto Police probing the Barry and Honey Sherman case are planning more search warrants and may use “covert” means to track down the killer or killers.

Softly, softly..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1svDnKkwXs

 

[ldlager]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...next-can-barry-shermans-company-thrive-again/

 

[JayFriend]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...next-can-barry-shermans-company-thrive-again/

Subscription link. :tantrum:

 

[bluesneakers]

Subscription link. :tantrum:

Try this:
https://web.archive.org/web/2018042...ext-can-barry-shermans-company-thrive-again//

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Try this:
https://web.archive.org/web/2018042...ext-can-barry-shermans-company-thrive-again//

Not only has the company lost its guiding force, but Mr. Sherman left no ownership succession plan. Mr. Sherman’s stake is likely to be divided among several relatives whose intentions aren’t clear. Some employees also hold shares, according to court filings, complicating the company’s control even more.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/apo...ry-sherman-was-in-place-5-years-ago-1.3732807

An Apotex spokesman -- who had declined to discuss specific details prior to their funeral, out of respect for the Shermans -- said Friday that he wanted to set the record straight.

"Barry had developed a robust succession plan which he began implementing five years ago when he stepped down as CEO. From that point on until his tragic death, Dr. Sherman was no longer involved in day-to-day operations at Apotex rather, focused on some specific aspects of the business," Apotex spokesman Jordan Berman said in an email Friday.

The difference means, there is a succession plan but not one re ownership?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

https://web.archive.org/web/2018042...ext-can-barry-shermans-company-thrive-again//
(Link same as above)
The good news is that Apotex appears to have stability where it needs it most: The backing of the Sherman family. In a deposition last May, Mr. Sherman revealed he had no succession plan, and his death raised questions about future ownership. But the company said family members have endorsed the transformation. “To accomplish what I’ve been speaking to you about, we certainly have the support and the ability to do that,” Mr. Watson said. A request for confirmation through the family’s lawyer was not returned.

:gaah:

 

[WINDSOR]

https://web.archive.org/web/2018042...ext-can-barry-shermans-company-thrive-again//
(Link same as above)
The good news is that Apotex appears to have stability where it needs it most: The backing of the Sherman family. In a deposition last May, Mr. Sherman revealed he had no succession plan, and his death raised questions about future ownership. But the company said family members have endorsed the transformation. “To accomplish what I’ve been speaking to you about, we certainly have the support and the ability to do that,” Mr. Watson said. A request for confirmation through the family’s lawyer was not returned.

:gaah:

Too much misunderstanding and confusion about succession plans etc.

Apotex and most Canadian corporations are companies that are owned by shareholders. When a shareholder dies, his shares are part of his estate, and they are transferred to a new owner under the terms of his estate. The Shermans had wills. Their shares go to who they had designated in their wills.

The shareholders through the election of the Board of Directors control the direction of the company. The Board selects the top executives to run the company. With Barry and Honey deceased, the new owners of the Apotex shares, can use their votes to retain the current board members or they can propose and elect new board members.

The transfer of shares due to sale, death or other reason, does not jeopardize the operation of a corporation.

The fact Barry claimed he did not have a succession plan, is beside the point. It will be up to the Board of Directors to guide the company now.

 

[JDG]

For some real yellow journalism, Globe magazine says Barry and Honey were murdered by a rival, hell bent on revenge. Said rival thought he had stolen pharmaceutical secrets and tortured and killed them for that reason. Says there have been fingerprints found at the scene that trace back to ex Mossad people.

If you google Globe Magazine and look at previous articles, its on the bottom of the first page.

I know, its a rag but often there is a speck or more of truth to it. Lets face it, 'proper' journalism hasn't been great on some cases.

 

[WINDSOR]

For some real yellow journalism, Globe magazine says Barry and Honey were murdered by a rival, hell bent on revenge. Said rival thought he had stolen pharmaceutical secrets and tortured and killed them for that reason. Says there have been fingerprints found at the scene that trace back to ex Mossad people.

If you google Globe Magazine and look at previous articles, its on the bottom of the first page.

I know, its a rag but often there is a speck or more of truth to it. Lets face it, 'proper' journalism hasn't been great on some cases.

Sort of fits the scenario proposed early on on this forum. I did not feel the motive was related to the pharmaceutical business though. No doubt, all sorts of media, monitor forums like this as well, for story ideas.

 

[JDG]

Sort of fits the scenario proposed early on on this forum. I did not feel the motive was related to the pharmaceutical business though. No doubt, all sorts of media, monitor forums like this as well, for story ideas.

I wouldn't be surprised if its close to the truth. Torturing them and staging such a weird death scene, not the regular kind of 'hit' that the police see fairly often.

With, for example, the Teva investigations and so much money at stake? Not saying it was Teva, many other companies have started up in Asia and India etc.


Generic drugs are no longer making the 30% profit that provided Barry and Honey with such a lovely life and someone was not taking it any longer.

 

[ldlager]

For some real yellow journalism, Globe magazine says Barry and Honey were murdered by a rival, hell bent on revenge. Said rival thought he had stolen pharmaceutical secrets and tortured and killed them for that reason. Says there have been fingerprints found at the scene that trace back to ex Mossad people.

If you google Globe Magazine and look at previous articles, its on the bottom of the first page.

I know, its a rag but often there is a speck or more of truth to it. Lets face it, 'proper' journalism hasn't been great on some cases.

i think they wrote this cr*p once before, early on. As was commented on then, Mossad trained operatives don’t leave fingerprints. Period.

 

[JDG]

i think they wrote this cr*p once before, early on. As was commented on then, Mossad trained operatives don’t leave fingerprints. Period.

Maybe thats why they're 'ex'?

Story seems feasible though.

 

[ldlager]

Maybe thats why they're 'ex'?

Story seems feasible though.

lol But if LE knows who they are, then an arrest should be imminent. After all, the Sherman’s had friends in very high places in Israel’s. I can’t wait to read about the arrests coming soon.

 

[ldlager]

lol But if LE knows who they are, then an arrest should be imminent. After all, the Sherman’s had friends in very high places in Israel’s. I can’t wait to read about the arrests coming soon.

Or perhaps the real Mossad will do LE’s work for them.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lauren...workers-suspending-its-dividend/#4e7932fb7794

Investing #StockWatch

DEC 14, 2017 @ 09:39 AM 9,668 The Little Black Book of Billionaire Secrets
Teva Is Laying Off 14,000 Workers, Suspending Its Dividend

The company said the layoffs would impact 14,000 employees and that most people would be notified within the next 90 days. It did not specify which divisions or geographies would be targeted. The job cuts prompted a call for strike from Israel's national labor union.

It has immediately suspended dividends on ordinary shares, while the dividend on its convertible preferred shares will continue to be reviewed on a quarterly basis.

:thinking:

 

[JDG]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lauren...workers-suspending-its-dividend/#4e7932fb7794

Investing #StockWatch

DEC 14, 2017 @ 09:39 AM 9,668 The Little Black Book of Billionaire Secrets
Teva Is Laying Off 14,000 Workers, Suspending Its Dividend



:thinking:

If you google Generic Drug prices, you'll find recent articles, Jan. 2018 that say generic drug companies are agreeing to cut prices by 40% over the next 5 years. CBC

Its hitting ALL of the companies very hard.

Canadians have been screwed, price wise, for decades.

How do you think "someone" became a Billionaire??

IMO, thats why he was trying desperately to hop on the marijuana train. Someone stopped him.

Apotex is trying to not disintegrate while the police do their work but there have been pretty big layoffs there too. Barry was very hands on and I imagine its hard to pick it up, he was probably secretive and Jack Kay said he wouldn't 'let go' of the non profit stuff.

In general, generic drugs are on the downswing for now, as far as their profit margins are concerned.

 

[human]

Why are generics losing money? There are so many users of drugs all over the world.

And insurance companies insist on generics for reimbursement