CANADA Canada - Ben Tyner, 32, cowboy, his horse returned w/o him, Merritt, British Columbia, 26 Jan 2019

[cutter99]

The bane of a rider, lol. Especially for those of us with 12’+ reins. Some msm articles are no longer online or have been edited.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...ue-american-cowboy-missing-in-b-c-backcountry

This ^ mentions Ben’s bro possibly found a piece of rein.

Do you have a picture of a link for the 12’+ reins? I would love to see them.

 

[zecats]

This may have answered one of my questions. Could Ben's dogs (more than one?) have scented the rein?
BBM

Later in the morning, Richard texted his sister, Judy Sanders, in Kissimmee, Fla., to say that he and Jennifer were surveying the area via helicopter, while Jack was on horseback, accompanied by Ben’s dogs.

It was his brother who found it and he did have Ben's dogs with him. So good point.

 

[cutter99]

<modsnipped>
Of course we don’t know if Ben suffered from depression but being a cowboy is kind of a lonely job, don’t you think?
Gives one a lot of time to think, which can be a good or bad thing. Jmo

Agree. <modsnipped>.
Yes, it is a lonely life which is why we get all the sad, cowboy
songs. Just listen to the words in these songs.

Those who choose a life working with animals and farming do so because we love it. To say that a “cowboy life” is lonely or causes someone to suffer from depression is a stretch. It is a preferred lifestyle that many do not understand.

Many modern day farmers and cowboys are college educated, have many options as far as employment, and choose a quiet, solitary lifestyle because we enjoy it.

We don’t want to be in offices. We don’t want to deal with people. We find satisfaction and contentment taking great care of our livestock and crops, and take pride in our efforts.

Depression is a huge issue world-wide, that often times does not get the acknowledgment and treatment needed. BUT again, let’s not make assumptions that are being presented or assumed as givens.

 

[enelram]

There has been a dramatic increase seen in suicides in rural/agricultural areas and farmers due to being isolated, and
possibly not having access to mental health care. Also,
imo, farmers tend to be more stoic, non-complaining and
are at the mercy of weather and market pricing of product and
animal feed.
Suicide rates in rural America are soaring. One family is working to change that. - CNN

 

[cutter99]

This is nothing new for any of us who farm. I live it every day. The mental health crisis is not jus restricted to those in the agricultural community. Recent economic impacts have not helped, but please do not lump all of us into a catagory that is not universal.

 

[jellybean96]

Those who choose a life working with animals and farming do so because we love it. To say that a “cowboy life” is lonely or causes someone to suffer from depression is a stretch. It is a preferred lifestyle that many do not understand.

Many modern day farmers and cowboys are college educated, have many options as far as employment, and choose a quiet, solitary lifestyle because we enjoy it.

We don’t want to be in offices. We don’t want to deal with people. We find satisfaction and contentment taking great care of our livestock and crops, and take pride in our efforts.

Depression is a huge issue world-wide, that often times does not get the acknowledgment and treatment needed. BUT again, let’s not make assumptions that are being presented or assumed as givens.

I agree, completely.

Did I miss an article that said Ben was depressed? What are people making these assumptions based on?

IMHO there is no chance Ben took his horse out and committed suicide. MAYBE suicide would be a possibility if he didn't take his horse. But no way, in my mind, did he tie his horse up while he killed himself. Not a true Cowboy like Ben. He would do without food himself before intentionally not taking care of his horse.

 

[cutter99]

I agree, completely.

Did I miss an article that said Ben was depressed? What are people making these assumptions based on?

IMHO there is no chance Ben took his horse out and committed suicide. MAYBE suicide would be a possibility if he didn't take his horse. But no way, in my mind, did he tie his horse up while he killed himself. Not a true Cowboy like Ben. He would do without food himself before intentionally not taking care of his horse.

There has been nothing stated in MSM, or by Ben’s family, employer or friends, that indicted Ben had an issue with depression.

I also do not believe that a cowboy, who uses his horse as a partner and works hard to care for that partner, would ever do something to themself and leave that horse at risk somewhere potentially unsafe.

 

[Wish I Knew]

I agree that he would not have put his horse's well-being at risk.

Those of us who have spent a lifetime seriously involved with horses, would never knowingly put them in harms way. They are our partners and (often) our livelihood. The money and training we put into them....well, we more than care about them. It's really hard to put into words for non-horse-people.
We certainly wouldn't leave them with reins dragging to make their way to safety...knowing they will get them tangled or step on them. Horses have a special way of finding trouble.

Most of our horses are not capable of long-term survival on their own. They are quite domesticated. And without a herd, for sure it's a no way!

Every night I come here hoping for some good news...

 

[Rhenish]

Just MOO, but I do think it is wrong to link isolation to depression because a lot of people would rather "be one" with nature or themselves rather than "in the mix". He is a Cowboy, it was his life's dream/passion as stated in some articles and therefore it is most likely it is "in his blood." I just do not see him being depressed for any reason, the man traveled all over the world exposed to isolating conditions and he appeared to thrive or enjoy doing so. I do not see depression as a reason for his disappearance at all, not at all.

I believe first and foremost an accident and then, secondly, maybe foul play but certainly not suicide or a disappearing act.

 

[Equestrian]

For those who are not thoroughly embedded in this lifestyle, I could see how it could be viewed as a lonely existence, but consider this for a moment... for many of us, the horse world is an incredibly fulfilling and inclusive existence. We have "friends" wherever we may go, able to relate to us and most often very welcoming. We have the opportunity to have many very real connections with other like minded folks, mentors, and peers. More often than not, we tend to watch out for each other. Most especially, when it's obvious we are in the presence of a horseman and a horse who clearly know what they are doing and exhibit a high level of skill, such as BT. This lifestyle, by many, is considered a blessing.

 

[Steelslady]

Yeah, I am not buying the self harm business myself. I think a terrible accident occurred where the horse got spooked and Ben wasn't able to either get up to get help, or perhaps he was unconscious and has passed away. My other thought is maybe foul play, but I am more leaning towards accident. When I think of foul play, I wonder, if someone had harmed him why would they set the horse free? Or maybe the horse got free on it's own.

Praying for Ben to be found soon. I wish I had a good feeling that he is alive, but the longer he's missing, the less likely that seems.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTES:

This thread is dedicated to discussing Ben's case, not to discuss the RLD FB page which is not an approved social media site. Stick to MSM and LE and if/when Ben's family set up a Missing Person page for him, WS would consider that an official / approved social media account. Just don't bring comments/information/drama to WS from any old site that has not been approved for discussion.

There has been nothing in MSM to support that that Ben suffers from depression.

Also, RCMP have not said "foul play has not been ruled out". What they have said is that there is "no evidence to suggest foul play". Big difference folks ... so please refrain from speculating negatively or insinuating any involvement regarding Ben's employment (i.e. employer or employees).

Post responsibly and respectfully without making unfounded accusations or suggestions regarding innocent individuals.

 

[Gracie55]

Found horse so doubt Ben succumbed to this but you never know. Searchers please be careful
https://www.langleyadvance.com/news...h-for-treeline-avalanches-in-b-c-backcountry/

 

[zecats]

BBM

A recent article. 2/8/19. Jared Dorn is one of the admins of Missing: Ben Tyner.

Merritt Mounties call for backup in Ben Tyner investigation


The search for a missing cowboy near Merritt has been suspended, but the investigation into Ben Tyner’s disappearance will continue.


Following his disappearance, more than a dozen search and rescue teams, RCMP, air services, police dogs, drones and volunteers on foot in vehicles, on snowmobiles, on horseback, in helicopters, horseback riders, helicopters scoured the region, but there’s still no sign of the rancher.

The experience has been “heartbreaking” for the entire family, said Jared Dorn, Tyner’s cousin-in-law, who said the family is still formulating plans on how to proceed.

“There are a lot of things that do not make sense about the entire situation, but I am not in the position to characterize it as suspicious,” Dorn said. “I believe that keeping Ben and his situation in peoples’ hearts and minds is the best chance we have of finding him.”

MISSING: BEN TYNER

 

[mtnlites]

For those who are not thoroughly embedded in this lifestyle, I could see how it could be viewed as a lonely existence, but consider this for a moment... for many of us, the horse world is an incredibly fulfilling and inclusive existence. We have "friends" wherever we may go, able to relate to us and most often very welcoming. We have the opportunity to have many very real connections with other like minded folks, mentors, and peers. More often than not, we tend to watch out for each other. Most especially, when it's obvious we are in the presence of a horseman and a horse who clearly know what they are doing and exhibit a high level of skill, such as BT. This lifestyle, by many, is considered a blessing.

Thank you for providing that insight. And to others, too. Not a cowgirl (though we have horses), but I understand your comment, as well as many others'. We live on a farm with 100+ acres. We don't have any neighbors. What some may see as "isolated" we see as amazing. It's a chosen lifestyle.

 

[jewelsmac]

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[Tripod]

Bump for Ben and his family.

 

[watcher9]

Searching can be dangerous.
This article dated yesterday says a GSAR volunteer had what I would say was a serious injury while searching for Ben Tyner.
It doesn't say when he was injured but he has now been released from the hospital.
Also of note in the top right corner of the article it shows the temperature as being -12 degrees.

https://www.keremeosreview.com/news/gsar-volunteer-injured-during-cowboy-search/

 

[zecats]

Searching can be dangerous.
This article dated yesterday says a GSAR volunteer had what I would say was a serious injury while searching for Ben Tyner.
It doesn't say when he was injured but he has now been released from the hospital.
Also of note in the top right corner of the article it shows the temperature as being -12 degrees.

https://www.keremeosreview.com/news/gsar-volunteer-injured-during-cowboy-search/

Yes I read this as well. I believe he was part of the initial search and is experienced in driving snow mobiles. Makes me think his injury happened early on.

Must be quite a harrowing search and there are so many exceptional people offering their time and services to find Ben.

 

[Trudie]

Yes I read this as well. I believe he was part of the initial search and is experienced in driving snow mobiles. Makes me think his injury happened early on.

Must be quite a harrowing search and there are so many exceptional people offering their time and services to find Ben.

It seems Ben is blessed with great family & friends. It’s been interesting reading their posts on Missing Ben Tyner link you previously posted.