Found Alive Canada - D.S., 8, Prince Albert, SK, 4 July 2017 *Arrest*

[ms_x_to_the_m]

I'm so happy she was found safe and sound (here's hoping&#129310 he's been arrested. I hope LE updates the media, as to charges and support his.

It appears that he might have some mental disabilities (besides grabbing kids!)
Off to look and try to find his cases.

All moo

 

[Henry2326]

I'm so happy she was found safe and sound (here's hoping&#129310 he's been arrested. I hope LE updates the media, as to charges and support his.

It appears that he might have some mental disabilities (besides grabbing kids!)
Off to look and try to find his cases.

All moo

See earlier posts.. Arrest was made last night.

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[thelesis]

Cognitive disability + Gladue factor = he won't see more than a couple months in a cell.

 

[Henry2326]

Cognitive disability + Gladue factor = he won't see more than a couple months in a cell.

Agreed...in a positive light, sweet baby girl is ok and back Home.....

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[matou]

He shouldn't be allowed to own a vehicle and drive if he is going to get a pass for this behaviour then. JMO

 

[Henry2326]

He shouldn't be allowed to own a vehicle and drive if he is going to get a pass for this behaviour then. JMO

Agreed....wonder if he has a license and if that was his car.

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[MsMarple]

I'm wondering why this then?

As part of his probation, Charles will be required to participate in personal and sexual offender counselling, and will be forced to enroll in the National Sexual Offender Registry. Charles will still not be allowed to be alone with children under 16, and will not be allowed to attend any parks or pools except in the company of an adult who is aware of his charges.

http://panow.com/article/623856/abduction-charges-dropped-sask-amber-alert-case

And that worked so well. (sarcasm) Let's hope the court takes a more assertive approach this time and makes sure this young man is secluded from society until such time he can be deemed safe from abducting children. IMO if he's out he will take another child and the next time may not end with a safe return.

 

[Henry2326]

Without info, it is hard to say if he meant them harm. See comments below from police. He took the girl and the 2 boys last year to his grandmother's house. IMO, she probably called authorities. With his cognitive issues, it is plausible that in his mind he was protecting them since he found them alone with no adults. So he took them to the safest place he knows....his grandmother......IMO.


Alanna Adamko, a police spokeswoman, said Charles was arrested "without incident" but did not release any other details.

Shze said an investigation into the alleged abduction continues and no charges have been laid yet.*

The alert lasted less than two hours when the suspect's vehicle was discovered at*his grandmother's*home in the community of St. Louis, about 275 kms south of La Ronge. The boys were found unharmed in the same home.

https://www.guelphtoday.com/nationa...viously-charged-with-abduction-reports-662139

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[Tealgrove]

It is unfortunate that this young man has cognitive disabilities however, he has now twice abducted young children. He has restrictions in place that do not allow him to be around children without an adult and he is a registered sex offender. I get that he is disabled, however, the safety of children come first and whatever arrangements have been put in place to keep him in order clearly are not working.

It matters not, that these children were found at his Grandmother's home and that he surrendered without incident. He is abducting children and that is a serious offence. What happens the next time he decides to abduct a child? Maybe he won't go home to Grandma. Maybe he will go somewhere else where he can't be found.

Authorities decided he needed to register as a Sex Offender for some reason. They didn't just make it up.

I am sympathetic to the fact that a disability is playing a role here however, when the safety of children is put in jeopardy by this person then stronger and more severe measures are required.

MOO

 

[Henry2326]

It is unfortunate that this young man has cognitive disabilities however, he has now twice abducted young children. He has restrictions in place that do not allow him to be around children without an adult and he is a registered sex offender. I get that he is disabled, however, the safety of children come first and whatever arrangements have been put in place to keep him in order clearly are not working.

It matters not, that these children were found at his Grandmother's home and that he surrendered without incident. He is abducting children and that is a serious offence. What happens the next time he decides to abduct a child? Maybe he won't go home to Grandma. Maybe he will go somewhere else where he can't be found.

Authorities decided he needed to register as a Sex Offender for some reason. They didn't just make it up.

I am sympathetic to the fact that a disability is playing a role here however, when the safety of children is put in jeopardy by this person then stronger and more severe measures are required.

MOO

My friend...you just led us to the sad state of our society in regards to mental health. With the closing of 1000s of mental health institutions, they all go in and out of jail, many without meds or treatment.
Its a revolving door without improvement.

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[Jules Clues]

It is unfortunate that this young man has cognitive disabilities however, he has now twice abducted young children. He has restrictions in place that do not allow him to be around children without an adult and he is a registered sex offender. I get that he is disabled, however, the safety of children come first and whatever arrangements have been put in place to keep him in order clearly are not working.

It matters not, that these children were found at his Grandmother's home and that he surrendered without incident. He is abducting children and that is a serious offence. What happens the next time he decides to abduct a child? Maybe he won't go home to Grandma. Maybe he will go somewhere else where he can't be found.

Authorities decided he needed to register as a Sex Offender for some reason. They didn't just make it up.

I am sympathetic to the fact that a disability is playing a role here however, when the safety of children is put in jeopardy by this person then stronger and more severe measures are required.

MOO

I agree 1000%. While I sympathize with mental illness, it shouldn't allow offenders to commit awful crimes and face no real consequences. Top of mind without even having to do a google search there have been numerous cases where the offender has been deemed not criminally responsible (Brentwood 5 murders, Manyshots brothers) and those are just local to me. I imagine each province and city has a few cases that are similar. In some cases they're even back in society (Greyhound bus killer). And Homolka is volunteering at her kids school. SMH.


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[ms_x_to_the_m]

I'm so sad and angry that this has happened again. I don't know what to say. I'm eating my words

He's facing some serious charges.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1435749016472859&id=114019975312443

 

[mpnola]

Um. Ok. First---- thank goodness these kids are alive!!!! Let's start there.

This is the exact population I worked with for 16 years. He seems to have a cognitive disability (what used to be called mental retardation) but is high functioning. He also clearly seems to have mental.health issues. Identical to the population I worked with. Most people with disabilities are harmless. Most. But make no mistake about it--- there are also those who are very very harmful. He is able to drive, which means he is cognitively aware enough to.pass a test. He has plenty enough intelligence to know what he's doing. But he has the hormones of a teen with the mind/ maturity that isn't quite keeping up.

He is seemingly living with grandma. That's not working. He takes multiple children captive to that home. And no one is there to notice and intervene (is it weird that I am seeing Bad Santa in my head right now?) This kid/ guy needs immediate supervision. 24 hour. I had a few clients very similar. I had one who came to us out of prison. His IQ barely got him a MR diagnosis, but he clearly had severe mental.illness. So, I had him approved for 24 hour 1:1 supervision. Within 6 feet at all times. With serious behavior management training for the staff. And this was while living in a community home! Not easy to get approved, but if you show a serious risk to.others (like this guy!) It can be done. Just to tidy up that story- if he wasn't there when I started working there I never would have approved him. He attacked the manager who worked with him while his 1:1 unloaded the groceries for her. He had her pinned to the bed by the wrists and ripped her clothes when.the staff came in. He was calculating and patient and violent. It doesn't happen often, but God help you when it does.

This guy had kidnapped 2 others less than a year ago. He will escalate. He will not stop. He needs either in patient hospital supervision (good luck!) Or 24 hour close supervision. He now can even have his own.apartment and the staff work with him on his own home and he goes to work or day programming in the day. but no one should EVER let their guard down around him. When they leave him for a minute to run into a store, he will make his move. He has an issue that will not stop. I'm not a psychiatrist so believe me how you want. But I have a masters degree in counseling and more real life experience than I ever knew I would. This guy cannot live or be monitored by granny any longer. I know she Prob has good intentions. But children are in serious danger. 1 million percent.

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[Tealgrove]

I'm so sad and angry that this has happened again. I don't know what to say. I'm eating my words

He's facing some serious charges.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1435749016472859&id=114019975312443

This never NEVER should have happened. He is facing some very serious charges. She was not found safe. She was not unharmed. Disability or not, this guy MUST be dealt with in a serious manner. No more passes because of mental disability. He has enough cognitive ability to kidnap children and sexually assault them. Enough.

MOO

 

[thelesis]

Canada doesn't really have a non-punitive option for those with mental illness. Vincent Li, the man who decapitated another person on a greyhound bus years ago, has been released from prison with no requirements to check in with anyone because he's CURRENTLY compliant with his medical regimen.

The 'he had a bad childhood, etc.' will come out at trial and he'll be back on the streets by 2020 - and that's taking into account it'll be 2018 before he goes to trial anyway.

 

[Henry2326]

I'm not an expert in Canadian law, but based on Prosecutor comments in this article, the judge has discretion to the charges. Appears that police placed as many charges as they can think of with the hopes the judge chooses the sinificant ones. Understanding the definition of each charge might not align with what we, the public, would assume. See below.
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The Prince Albert Police Service said Wednesday it is charging Jared John Charles with sexual assault, kidnapping, abduction, forcible confinement, abandoning a child, sexual interference, criminal negligence and invitation to sexual touching.
Charles, who is also known as Jarrod Charles, was previously charged in the abduction of two boys that was also the subject of an Amber Alert last fall but those charges were stayed, court documents showed.

There was no evidence that Charles intended to take the children from their parents, said Crown prosecutor Luke Coupal.

Charles is on probation after he pleaded guilty to sexual interference.

Last December, he was sentenced to three-and-a-half months time served, as well as three years of probation in connection with a case that involved a nine-year-old girl.

Coupal noted that sexual interference “spans a spectrum of everything from possibly a kiss that has a sexual nature right up to violent sexual assaults, and the judge has to determine… the appropriate sentence based on the facts.”

He did not provide further details.


http://globalnews.ca/news/3578439/jared-john-charles-charged-abduction/





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[Tealgrove]

I'm not an expert in Canadian law, but based on Prosecutor comments in this article, the judge has discretion to the charges. Appears that police placed as many charges as they can think of with the hopes the judge chooses the sinificant ones. Understanding the definition of each charge might not align with what we, the public, would assume. See below.
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The Prince Albert Police Service said Wednesday it is charging Jared John Charles with sexual assault, kidnapping, abduction, forcible confinement, abandoning a child, sexual interference, criminal negligence and invitation to sexual touching.
Charles, who is also known as Jarrod Charles, was previously charged in the abduction of two boys that was also the subject of an Amber Alert last fall but those charges were stayed, court documents showed.

There was no evidence that Charles intended to take the children from their parents, said Crown prosecutor Luke Coupal.

Charles is on probation after he pleaded guilty to sexual interference.

Last December, he was sentenced to three-and-a-half months time served, as well as three years of probation in connection with a case that involved a nine-year-old girl.

Coupal noted that sexual interference “spans a spectrum of everything from possibly a kiss that has a sexual nature right up to violent sexual assaults, and the judge has to determine… the appropriate sentence based on the facts.”

He did not provide further details.


http://globalnews.ca/news/3578439/jared-john-charles-charged-abduction/





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So his motive is sexual. Period.

We now have our latest victim, two boys and another little girl. That's 4 children that have fallen prey to this guy and he's still out there walking around. In my book, he is a Sexual Predator and starting as young as he is and with this mental disability I see no hope of treatment to change his behaviour. That's purely MOO. I have no statistics to back this up but I'm not liking any chances of rehabilitation.

There just isn't much else to say is there?

 

[margarita25]

Awful.

Interesting his victim preference is male AND female.

 

[Ontario Mom]

So his motive is sexual. Period.

We now have our latest victim, two boys and another little girl. That's 4 children that have fallen prey to this guy and he's still out there walking around. In my book, he is a Sexual Predator and starting as young as he is and with this mental disability I see no hope of treatment to change his behaviour. That's purely MOO. I have no statistics to back this up but I'm not liking any chances of rehabilitation.

There just isn't much else to say is there?

Well said. :clap:

 

[margarita25]

Throw away the key!!!