Canada - Ezekiel Stephan, 19 mos, dies of meningitis, 13 March 2012
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Question:
If your child stopped breathing, for however the amount of time, and you call 911- then the child starts breathing while you are on the phone with 911, do you cancel the ambulance or have them still come?
That is the question I think needs to be answered, IMO.
A child not breathing is very scary to me and I would have the ambulance still come.
My son was very sick when he was a toddler- thought he had a cold, but his neck hurt, back/legs were stiff. We took him to the ER and they did a spinal tap. It wasn't meningitis. When we took him for the follow-up at our MD, he said that there is a sickness whose symptoms resemble meningitis, so he was upset that the ER MD ordered a spinal for nothing.
I didn't think the tap was for nothing- better safe than sorry, IMO.
If your child stopped breathing, for however the amount of time, and you call 911- then the child starts breathing while you are on the phone with 911, do you cancel the ambulance or have them still come?
That is the question I think needs to be answered, IMO.
A child not breathing is very scary to me and I would have the ambulance still come.
My son was very sick when he was a toddler- thought he had a cold, but his neck hurt, back/legs were stiff. We took him to the ER and they did a spinal tap. It wasn't meningitis. When we took him for the follow-up at our MD, he said that there is a sickness whose symptoms resemble meningitis, so he was upset that the ER MD ordered a spinal for nothing.
I didn't think the tap was for nothing- better safe than sorry, IMO.
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Mother of Alberta boy who died of meningitis breaks down testifying at trial (with clip)
June 25, 2019
"The mother of a toddler who died of bacterial meningitis broke down several times while she testified at her trial Tuesday that she is still haunted by her boy’s death.
Collet Stephan told court that she still counts Ezekiel, who was 18 months old when he died, among her current living children.
“He’s my son,” she said tearfully. “My role as a stay-at-home mom is to care for my children. It’s my purpose. It’s why I was put on Earth.”
Collet Stephan testified that she has vivid memories of some aspects of Ezekiel’s death but has blocked out others.
“It was an extremely traumatic time which no parent should have to go through,” she said.
Stephan was holding her son and listening to his irregular breathing when he first stopped.
“I had patted him on the back and he started breathing again. I carried him to the bedroom and when I laid him on the bed he stopped breathing again.
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She said she pinched his nose and blew into his mouth and he coughed up mucus and fluid and seemed to improve.
They called 911 while driving him to hospital...."
Mother of Alberta boy who died of meningitis breaks down testifying at trial
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“I didn’t see any health concerns warranting me going to see a doctor sooner,” testifies Collet Stephan
Jun 25, 2019
"LETHBRIDGE, AB – As the fourth week of testimony in the Stephan re-trial continued Tuesday, June 25, the Crown’s cross-examination of David Stephan wrapped up, while his wife Collet’s defense testimony began....''
During his cross-examination, Co-Crown Prosecutor Britta Kristensen asked David, who made the decision March 12 to “hit (Ezekiel) hard with supplements” when he was ill but prior to his hospitalization?
David answered both he and Collet made the decision.
Asked also whether he believed natural supplements worked, David answered “from online research I’ve done, they do have some anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal properties,” however he also agreed that he did not have any medical background training....
As Collet took the stand, she told the court her job and purpose in life was to be a stay at home mother and to take care of her five children (four are living). She also said she was the parent who had the most contact with Ezekiel before and after he became ill....
She described how she had gone to a church function on March 13, 2012 but was called home by her husband, after Ezekiel’s breathing became irregular. After arriving at home, she sat the child on her lap and listened to his breathing.
“I remember him (sic) just stopped breathing.”
The child was taken to a bedroom and placed on his side, then on his back as he intermittently stopped and started breathing. 9-1-1 was called, but called off, and a decision was then made to take the child to the hospital in Cardston....
“Was that the first time he (Ezekiel) had gone to the hospital? asked her lawyer Jason Demers. “Why not sooner?”
“I didn’t see any health concerns warranting me going to see a doctor sooner,” said Collet.
She spoke of “a mother’s intuition,” in the time period between Feb. 27 and March 12; looking into the eyes of her son – to see whether anything was concerning or out of the ordinary.
“Was it mother’s intuition to take him to the doctor’s?” asked Demers.
“No,” said Collet....
The trial continues Wednesday."
https://lethbridgenewsnow.com/2019/...see-a-doctor-sooner-testifies-collet-stephan/
June 25, 2019
"The mother of a toddler who died of bacterial meningitis broke down several times while she testified at her trial Tuesday that she is still haunted by her boy’s death.
Collet Stephan told court that she still counts Ezekiel, who was 18 months old when he died, among her current living children.
“He’s my son,” she said tearfully. “My role as a stay-at-home mom is to care for my children. It’s my purpose. It’s why I was put on Earth.”
Collet Stephan testified that she has vivid memories of some aspects of Ezekiel’s death but has blocked out others.
“It was an extremely traumatic time which no parent should have to go through,” she said.
Stephan was holding her son and listening to his irregular breathing when he first stopped.
“I had patted him on the back and he started breathing again. I carried him to the bedroom and when I laid him on the bed he stopped breathing again.
”
She said she pinched his nose and blew into his mouth and he coughed up mucus and fluid and seemed to improve.
They called 911 while driving him to hospital...."
Mother of Alberta boy who died of meningitis breaks down testifying at trial
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“I didn’t see any health concerns warranting me going to see a doctor sooner,” testifies Collet Stephan
Jun 25, 2019
"LETHBRIDGE, AB – As the fourth week of testimony in the Stephan re-trial continued Tuesday, June 25, the Crown’s cross-examination of David Stephan wrapped up, while his wife Collet’s defense testimony began....''
During his cross-examination, Co-Crown Prosecutor Britta Kristensen asked David, who made the decision March 12 to “hit (Ezekiel) hard with supplements” when he was ill but prior to his hospitalization?
David answered both he and Collet made the decision.
Asked also whether he believed natural supplements worked, David answered “from online research I’ve done, they do have some anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal properties,” however he also agreed that he did not have any medical background training....
As Collet took the stand, she told the court her job and purpose in life was to be a stay at home mother and to take care of her five children (four are living). She also said she was the parent who had the most contact with Ezekiel before and after he became ill....
She described how she had gone to a church function on March 13, 2012 but was called home by her husband, after Ezekiel’s breathing became irregular. After arriving at home, she sat the child on her lap and listened to his breathing.
“I remember him (sic) just stopped breathing.”
The child was taken to a bedroom and placed on his side, then on his back as he intermittently stopped and started breathing. 9-1-1 was called, but called off, and a decision was then made to take the child to the hospital in Cardston....
“Was that the first time he (Ezekiel) had gone to the hospital? asked her lawyer Jason Demers. “Why not sooner?”
“I didn’t see any health concerns warranting me going to see a doctor sooner,” said Collet.
She spoke of “a mother’s intuition,” in the time period between Feb. 27 and March 12; looking into the eyes of her son – to see whether anything was concerning or out of the ordinary.
“Was it mother’s intuition to take him to the doctor’s?” asked Demers.
“No,” said Collet....
The trial continues Wednesday."
https://lethbridgenewsnow.com/2019/...see-a-doctor-sooner-testifies-collet-stephan/
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While we're waiting to hear an update from this current trial, I am reminded of the sentence they received in the first trial: David Stephan was sentenced to four months in jail and his wife, Collet, handed a three-month conditional sentence to be served under house arrested for their negligence in the boy’s death.
The sentences were handed down in Lethbridge Court of Queen’s Bench June 24.
Both were also placed on probation for 24 months and each ordered to complete 240 hours of community service by 2018.
The crown appealed the sentence, saying it was too light. I suspect that this trial will result in them receiving a more significant sentence.
The sentences were handed down in Lethbridge Court of Queen’s Bench June 24.
Both were also placed on probation for 24 months and each ordered to complete 240 hours of community service by 2018.
The crown appealed the sentence, saying it was too light. I suspect that this trial will result in them receiving a more significant sentence.
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The mother of a toddler who died of bacterial meningitis seven years ago didn’t believe her son had the deadly disease, she testified Wednesday at her trial.
But Collet Stephan admitted she thought 18-month-old Ezekiel could have had viral meningitis, even though she and her husband, David, believed in the weeks leading up to the child’s death that he was only suffering from croup.
During cross-examination Wednesday by Crown prosecutor Joshua Chan, Collet agreed that based on her later observations of Ezekiel, she had ruled out the possibility her son had bacterial meningitis, but acknowledged it most likely “could” have been viral meningitis.
When Chan asked her if she felt viral meningitis caused her more concern than croup, she simply replied, “no.”
She also agreed with the Crown that she and David had discussed meningitis, but decided not to take Ezekiel to a doctor unless they saw more severe symptoms.
Mother didn't believe son had deadly disease
But Collet Stephan admitted she thought 18-month-old Ezekiel could have had viral meningitis, even though she and her husband, David, believed in the weeks leading up to the child’s death that he was only suffering from croup.
During cross-examination Wednesday by Crown prosecutor Joshua Chan, Collet agreed that based on her later observations of Ezekiel, she had ruled out the possibility her son had bacterial meningitis, but acknowledged it most likely “could” have been viral meningitis.
When Chan asked her if she felt viral meningitis caused her more concern than croup, she simply replied, “no.”
She also agreed with the Crown that she and David had discussed meningitis, but decided not to take Ezekiel to a doctor unless they saw more severe symptoms.
Mother didn't believe son had deadly disease
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Mother of Alberta boy who died of meningitis cross-examined by husband in retrial (with clip)
June 28, 2019
"The mother of 18-month-old toddler Ezekiel Stephan who died of bacterial meningitis in 2012 was back on the stand Wednesday following an emotional testimony Tuesday. This time with both the crown, and her own husband, David Stephan cross-examining her....
When David, acting as his own lawyer, stepped up to cross-examine his wife, he asked Collet to detail a previous encounter she’d had with the naturopathic doctor, Tracey Tannis. Collet recounted that she had also gone to Tannis about a medical situation with her other child, Ezra, who had a build up of ear wax. Collet added that when she was instructed by Tannis to take Ezra to the doctor, she did....
David Stephan told Global News on Tuesday that he feels positive about his and his wife’s testimonies.
“I think we were able to clarify a lot of points and misconceptions that were made when we were nearly 48-hours sleep deprived and food deprived and traumatized when we made the statements to the police, so I think it went quite well,” he said."
Mother of Alberta boy who died of meningitis cross-examined by husband in retrial
June 28, 2019
"The mother of 18-month-old toddler Ezekiel Stephan who died of bacterial meningitis in 2012 was back on the stand Wednesday following an emotional testimony Tuesday. This time with both the crown, and her own husband, David Stephan cross-examining her....
When David, acting as his own lawyer, stepped up to cross-examine his wife, he asked Collet to detail a previous encounter she’d had with the naturopathic doctor, Tracey Tannis. Collet recounted that she had also gone to Tannis about a medical situation with her other child, Ezra, who had a build up of ear wax. Collet added that when she was instructed by Tannis to take Ezra to the doctor, she did....
David Stephan told Global News on Tuesday that he feels positive about his and his wife’s testimonies.
“I think we were able to clarify a lot of points and misconceptions that were made when we were nearly 48-hours sleep deprived and food deprived and traumatized when we made the statements to the police, so I think it went quite well,” he said."
Mother of Alberta boy who died of meningitis cross-examined by husband in retrial
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On Wednesday, Collet testified she didn’t believe her son showed symptoms of bacterial meningitis prior to his death, stating that if her midwife or the naturopathic doctor had told her to take her son to the hospital, she would have.
When David, acting as his own lawyer, stepped up to cross-examine his wife, he asked Collet to detail a previous encounter she’d had with the naturopathic doctor, Tracey Tannis. Collet recounted that she had also gone to Tannis about a medical situation with her other child, Ezra, who had a build up of ear wax. Collet added that when she was instructed by Tannis to take Ezra to the doctor, she did.
Earlier in the retrial, however, Dr. Tannis testified that Collet called her clinic and told an assistant she was concerned her son might have viral meningitis. Tannis stated that she instructed her assistant to tell Collet that Ezekiel should be taken to the hospital right away.
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While Collet was on the stand Wednesday, crown prosecutor Joshua Chan also suggested to her that her midwife, Terrie Shaw, had in fact mentioned the possibility of meningitis after examining Ezekiel.
Collet responded that it had come up in discussion with Shaw.
The crown then pressed further and suggested once Collet had researched meningitis online, she should have been more concerned for the welfare of her child. Collet, however, said Ezekiel didn’t display the critical symptoms, and if he had, she would have taken him to a doctor.
David Stephan told Global News on Tuesday that he feels positive about his and his wife’s testimonies.
Mother of Alberta boy who died of meningitis cross-examined by husband in retrial
On Wednesday, Collet testified she didn’t believe her son showed symptoms of bacterial meningitis prior to his death, stating that if her midwife or the naturopathic doctor had told her to take her son to the hospital, she would have.
When David, acting as his own lawyer, stepped up to cross-examine his wife, he asked Collet to detail a previous encounter she’d had with the naturopathic doctor, Tracey Tannis. Collet recounted that she had also gone to Tannis about a medical situation with her other child, Ezra, who had a build up of ear wax. Collet added that when she was instructed by Tannis to take Ezra to the doctor, she did.
Earlier in the retrial, however, Dr. Tannis testified that Collet called her clinic and told an assistant she was concerned her son might have viral meningitis. Tannis stated that she instructed her assistant to tell Collet that Ezekiel should be taken to the hospital right away.
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While Collet was on the stand Wednesday, crown prosecutor Joshua Chan also suggested to her that her midwife, Terrie Shaw, had in fact mentioned the possibility of meningitis after examining Ezekiel.
Collet responded that it had come up in discussion with Shaw.
The crown then pressed further and suggested once Collet had researched meningitis online, she should have been more concerned for the welfare of her child. Collet, however, said Ezekiel didn’t display the critical symptoms, and if he had, she would have taken him to a doctor.
David Stephan told Global News on Tuesday that he feels positive about his and his wife’s testimonies.
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Stephans claim official report of son's death doesn't exist
Stephans claim official report of son’s death doesn’t exist
In 2015 David and Collet Stephan went looking for an official report to confirm their toddler died of bacterial meningitis three years earlier.
They never found it. In fact, it doesn’t exist, David said Thursday during a break in his trial. All they found, he said, was a chain of emails between the medical examiner and microbiologist, Dr. Wilson Chan, who conducted tests on the child’s cerebral spinal fluid.
Much of Thursday’s testimony in the Stephans’ necessaries of life trial was provided by Chan, who testified tests showed signs of bacteria, but only “scant” amounts, and because the tests had not been clinically approved, he told the medical examiner at the time the information could only be used for research.
The Stephans claim the medical examiner, Dr. Bamidele Adeagbo, used the test results anyway to support a diagnosis of bacterial meningitis. They also maintain their child’s symptoms, including inflammation around the brain, could have been caused by the toddler’s lack of oxygen between the time he was picked up by the ambulance and his arrival in Calgary several hours later.
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The trial, which is being held in Lethbridge Court of Queen’s Bench, doesn’t resume until July 9 when defence plans to question its next witness. Crown witness Dr. Adeagbo is also expected to return July 10-12 after his testimony had to be cut short earlier in the trial.
Stephans claim official report of son’s death doesn’t exist
In 2015 David and Collet Stephan went looking for an official report to confirm their toddler died of bacterial meningitis three years earlier.
They never found it. In fact, it doesn’t exist, David said Thursday during a break in his trial. All they found, he said, was a chain of emails between the medical examiner and microbiologist, Dr. Wilson Chan, who conducted tests on the child’s cerebral spinal fluid.
Much of Thursday’s testimony in the Stephans’ necessaries of life trial was provided by Chan, who testified tests showed signs of bacteria, but only “scant” amounts, and because the tests had not been clinically approved, he told the medical examiner at the time the information could only be used for research.
The Stephans claim the medical examiner, Dr. Bamidele Adeagbo, used the test results anyway to support a diagnosis of bacterial meningitis. They also maintain their child’s symptoms, including inflammation around the brain, could have been caused by the toddler’s lack of oxygen between the time he was picked up by the ambulance and his arrival in Calgary several hours later.
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The trial, which is being held in Lethbridge Court of Queen’s Bench, doesn’t resume until July 9 when defence plans to question its next witness. Crown witness Dr. Adeagbo is also expected to return July 10-12 after his testimony had to be cut short earlier in the trial.
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IMO, Meningitis would have been diagnosed long before they did a test of the cerebrospinal fluid. Because Ezekiel was so seriously ill, antibiotics would have been administered immediately, probably at the first hospital he arrived at, without waiting for a brain CT scan, a lumbar puncture and CSF tests, since such delays can increase mortality.
So, it wouldn’t be unusual to find few of the actual bacteria on a lab test. About 20% of the time, no bacterial are found.
It seems to me that the Drs were pulling out all the stops in their attempt to save Ezekiel's life, including some experimental work. I hate that the child's father is so oblivious and defiant.
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So, it wouldn’t be unusual to find few of the actual bacteria on a lab test. About 20% of the time, no bacterial are found.
It seems to me that the Drs were pulling out all the stops in their attempt to save Ezekiel's life, including some experimental work. I hate that the child's father is so oblivious and defiant.
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If she thought her 18 month old child might have viral meningitis then she absolutely should have taken him in for medical treatment. It is not the same thing as a nasty cold.
He was sick from Feb 23rd until they finally took him to a clinic around March 12th. That is a long time to try and treat a child's illness without any testing to see what you are dealing with. JMO
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My son had a rapid heart beat when he was 10 weeks old. I took him to the doctor. When she checked him out she told me to drive him directly to the Children's cardiac unit at another hospital in town. It turned out to be fine. I understood why I was taking my child there.
I would never take my child down simply because someone else told me to. I knew that my child needed tests. Let's keep a level head.
I would never take my child down simply because someone else told me to. I knew that my child needed tests. Let's keep a level head.
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Here if you call 911 you can't "call them off" they come whether you want them to or not! So that was the first thing that was weird to me. But yeah I'm thinking not going to the hospital when your child quit breathing is definitely neglectful.
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And the child was sick for 3 weeks already. That is a long time for a 21 month old to be sick without getting checked out medically. Even if it was croup, by 10 days or more, wouldn't you seek some help?
I saw an article stating that the 'real ' cause of death was that the ambulance had a oxygen mask that was too large for the child and he couldn't get oxygen and that is what caused his death.
So that ambulance was the problem? Why was a toddler in dire need of an oxygen tank? Would'nt the real cause be the meningitis? And not an improper oxygen mask?
Toddler who died of meningitis could have lived if ambulance had proper equipment: medical expert
Toddler who died of meningitis could have lived if ambulance had proper equipment: medical expert
Court has heard how Ezekiel Stephan's parents gave him natural remedies, including smoothies with hot peppers and horseradish because they thought he had croup and the flu
The medical examiner has testified the boy died of bacterial meningitis but Sauvageau said the boy likely had viral meningitis and she has never seen a child die of that form of the disease.
Sauvageau said Ezekiel died because paramedics couldn’t establish an airway quickly and he probably would have been fine if the ambulance had the proper equipment.
He also told the jury that an endotracheal tube managed to provide the child with some oxygen, but it was only partially effective because the tube was also the wrong size. He said by that time the toddler had been without oxygen for more than eight minutes.
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Ok, so the defense case is that the ambulance workers 'killed' him by not having the proper equipment and making him go 8 minutes without an oxygen tank?
Isn't that cutting things a bit close? I mean the parents didn't get the child medical help until he was at such a fragile state that not having the oxygen tank for 8 minutes caused his death?
His lungs would have to be very compromised for that to happen.
Isn't that cutting things a bit close? I mean the parents didn't get the child medical help until he was at such a fragile state that not having the oxygen tank for 8 minutes caused his death?
His lungs would have to be very compromised for that to happen.
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From the 2016 trial ...
Dr Sauvageau, said these things in the 2016 trial. At the trial, she was not declared an expert in the area of diagnosis and prognosis.
It seems very odd to me that Dr. S. would state a diagnosis that was contrary to that made by attending expert physicians. It's also odd that her opinion would be allowed in court, since only expert witnesses are allowed to state opinions. Her testimony seems bizarre.
I wasn't able to find out whether or not she testified in this retrial. Can anyone recall?
Dr Sauvageau, said these things in the 2016 trial. At the trial, she was not declared an expert in the area of diagnosis and prognosis.
It seems very odd to me that Dr. S. would state a diagnosis that was contrary to that made by attending expert physicians. It's also odd that her opinion would be allowed in court, since only expert witnesses are allowed to state opinions. Her testimony seems bizarre.
I wasn't able to find out whether or not she testified in this retrial. Can anyone recall?
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In another case, Dr. S is again contradicting the findings of her colleagues ...
"The Calgary man whose badly burned body was found in the trunk of a smouldering car may not have been a victim of foul play, a forensic pathologist testified Wednesday.
Dr. Anny Sauvageau, the former chief medical examiner for Alberta, said it’s impossible to determine what caused the death of Mohammad Saqib.
Sauvageau questioned the findings of Crown pathologist Dr. Bamidele Adeagbo, who concluded the cause of death was multiple injuries, including three presumed gunshot wounds to the chest."
Defence pathologist questions whether victim was murdered
"The Calgary man whose badly burned body was found in the trunk of a smouldering car may not have been a victim of foul play, a forensic pathologist testified Wednesday.
Dr. Anny Sauvageau, the former chief medical examiner for Alberta, said it’s impossible to determine what caused the death of Mohammad Saqib.
Sauvageau questioned the findings of Crown pathologist Dr. Bamidele Adeagbo, who concluded the cause of death was multiple injuries, including three presumed gunshot wounds to the chest."
Defence pathologist questions whether victim was murdered
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Yeah I'm pretty certain Dr S testimony would get no credibility from me.
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Calgary mother appeals conviction and sentence for son's fatal staph infection
July 4, 2019
"...The trial heard that their son, John, didn’t see a doctor until the day before he died in November 2013 and a forensic pathologist testified the boy was malnourished and died from a staph infection.
Jennifer Clark’s lengthy handwritten notice of appeal says defence lawyers did not bring up inconsistencies in Crown medical expert testimony.
It also says the jury heard overwhelming, conflicting evidence and did not have the necessary medical knowledge to know whether doctors were explaining proper procedures.
During the trial, the Clarks’ lawyers argued doctors at the Alberta Children’s Hospital were to blame for John’s death because they raised his sodium levels too aggressively.
“The medical doctors who are suspected of medical malpractice/negligence (massive sodium overcorrection, massive fluid overcorrection) were given expert witness status at trial,” Jennifer Clark wrote in the notice filed Tuesday...."
Calgary mother appeals conviction and sentence for son's fatal staph infection
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Calgary couple convicted in death of son file appeals
July 4, 2019
"A Calgary couple, convicted in the death of their 14-month-old son earlier this year, have appealed their sentences and convictions.
Jennifer and Jeromie Clark were found guilty of criminal negligence causing death and failing to provide the necessaries of life for their infant son John, who died of a staph infection.
The court heard the pair refused to take him to see a doctor.
Jennifer Clark filed an appeal of her 32-month sentence on Thursday morning and Jeromie filed his own appeal later in the afternoon."
Calgary couple convicted in death of son file appeals
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I believe she was let go from service for the Alberta government. She filed a lawsuit against the Alberta government, in response to her dismissal.
I am having trouble believing anything that Dr. Sauvageau says. But there you go.
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