GUILTY Canada - Jessica Newman, 24, Calgary, 10 March 2015 #2

[deugirtni]

Another article:

Police said forensic evidence obtained from Rubletz’s vehicle helped lead to his arrest.
Rubletz, who’s maintained his innocence, was denied bail last September.

A trial date is to be set in August.

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/06/20/trial-ordered-for-kevin-rubletz-accused-of-killing-girlfriend

 

[debsy99]

Hello world, I am back. Anyways. It says in the article that KCR consented to go to trial at the very beginning of the pretrial. If you truly believe you are innocent why would you pass up your opportunity at the pretrial? Anyone who knows me knows what my position has been in this case. But I think that's changing.... The family of his side still contacts me.

 

[deugirtni]

Hello world, I am back. Anyways. It says in the article that KCR consented to go to trial at the very beginning of the pretrial. If you truly believe you are innocent why would you pass up your opportunity at the pretrial? Anyone who knows me knows what my position has been in this case. But I think that's changing.... The family of his side still contacts me.

Sorry, where in the article are you seeing that it says 'that KCR consented to go to trial at the very beginning'? By 'pretrial', you are talking about the preliminary hearing, correct? In the Sun article it says, "A week-long preliminary hearing ended Monday, with provincial court Judge Cheryl Daniel ruling Kevin Rubletz will stand trial for the slaying last year of Jessica Newman, 24." In the CBC article it says, "It comes after a six-day preliminary inquiry was held for 31-year-old Kevin Rubletz, who had been in conflict with the victim over the custody of their son." It sounds like evidence was presented: (from CBC): "The evidence presented at the preliminary inquiry is protected by a publication ban."

To give up your prelim... I don't know.. perhaps he didn't want people to hear the evidence they have against him at this point? That is the only reason I can think of, perhaps others might have different ideas. moo

 

[debsy99]

Oh your right! It was the wording in Nancy Hixt's article that confused me.

"Kevin Rubletz, 31, consented to stand trial last Monday, the first day of a preliminary inquiry, but Monday’s hearing still went ahead as scheduled."

http://globalnews.ca/news/2775347/m...er-will-stand-trial-for-second-degree-murder/

See in hers it says he consented on the first day. Wish I had been there. His family asked me to go but I couldn't make it.

 

[deugirtni]

Oh your right! It was the wording in Nancy Hixt's article that confused me.

"Kevin Rubletz, 31, consented to stand trial last Monday, the first day of a preliminary inquiry, but Monday’s hearing still went ahead as scheduled."

http://globalnews.ca/news/2775347/m...er-will-stand-trial-for-second-degree-murder/

See in hers it says he consented on the first day. Wish I had been there. His family asked me to go but I couldn't make it.

I hadn't seen that article, thanks for posting. I did check her Twitter for something but nothing seems to be there, wonder why?? There is an interesting article about prelims at the link below (it is in regard to ON, but I'm sure it's the same across Canada? moo).. it does seem weird, because the first day OF the prelim is not the appropriate time to 'waive one's right' to have one, I wouldn't think? It is also to his benefit to have one, since he will have greater knowledge of the case against him and how the prosecution intends to prove their case. I think by *that* time, it's too late to waive it, and of course he's going to 'consent' to it, (at least after the prelim), since he doesn't really have a choice.. so.. I wonder why he suddenly wanted to waive it?? One can only speculate I guess. Too bad you couldn't make it.

.... The threshold required for a person to stand trial is very low.

The legal test is whether “a jury who is properly instructed and acting reasonably, could return a verdict of guilt on the evidence presented.” ....

If the case is circumstantial in nature, a preliminary hearing judge is permitted to engage in a limited weighing of that evidence in their assessment in the test above and in asking the question of whether a jury could still reasonably return a verdict of guilt.

Although preliminary hearings are rarely successful in having charges disposed of by way of an accused being discharged, they are of great benefit to all parties involved as it serves as an invaluable discovery mechanism so that the case is better understood for trial. ....

An accused may waive his or her right to a preliminary hearing; however, the Crown Attorney also has the right to conduct one regardless of the accused’s waiver.

https://robichaudlaw.ca/ontario-criminal-court-procedures/preliminary-hearings-criminal/

 

[deugirtni]

A little late, but looks like it'll be another full year before KR goes to trial. Wow, long time to sit in jail waiting, 2 1/2 years after her murder!

Also, the trial is only expected to be 4 weeks long? There must not be much evidence to present then, from either prosecution or defence? Seems really short to me!

The suspect in the slaying of a Calgary waitress will stand trial in the fall of 2017.


Defence counsel Brendan Miller appeared Friday in Court of Queen’s Bench to set a four-week jury trial for Kevin Rubletz.


Miller also scheduled a one-week hearing to deal with pre-trial motions the week before Rubletz’s jury trial commences on Nov. 6, 2017.

....

Rubletz was ordered detained following a bail hearing last September, after a judge ruled he hadn’t met the onus on him to establish he should be freed pending trial.

....

Rubletz remains in remand custody pending an appeal of that decision, or the conclusion of his trial.

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/08/1...ica-rae-newman-to-stand-trial-in-fall-of-2017

 

[debsy99]

A little late, but looks like it'll be another full year before KR goes to trial. Wow, long time to sit in jail waiting, 2 1/2 years after her murder!

Also, the trial is only expected to be 4 weeks long? There must not be much evidence to present then, from either prosecution or defence? Seems really short to me!


http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/08/1...ica-rae-newman-to-stand-trial-in-fall-of-2017

In comparison though, the garland trail is expected to be 5 weeks and that's a triple murder. In that case 4 weeks seems long.

 

[deugirtni]

Just bringing this forward since jury selection is supposed to start in 3 1/2 weeks.
"A five-week trial was scheduled Friday that will begin with a voir dire Oct. 30, 2017 followed by jury selection Nov. 2. A voir dire is a trial within a trial to determine if the evidence heard will be allowed into the trial proper."

https://globalnews.ca/news/2892463/...sed-of-killing-calgary-mother-jessica-newman/

 

[debsy99]

Just bringing this forward since jury selection is supposed to start in 3 1/2 weeks.
"A five-week trial was scheduled Friday that will begin with a voir dire Oct. 30, 2017 followed by jury selection Nov. 2. A voir dire is a trial within a trial to determine if the evidence heard will be allowed into the trial proper."

https://globalnews.ca/news/2892463/...sed-of-killing-calgary-mother-jessica-newman/

I'm still here waiting for this and the Shannon burgess trial. I stepped back from websleuths. But thanks to all you who are still watching them.


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[JerseyGirl]

Jury trial to begin Monday for man accused of killing Calgary mother Jessica Newman

https://globalnews.ca/news/3842773/...sed-of-killing-calgary-mother-jessica-newman/

 

[deugirtni]

Jury trial to begin Monday for man accused of killing Calgary mother Jessica Newman

https://globalnews.ca/news/3842773/...sed-of-killing-calgary-mother-jessica-newman/

another:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/jessica-newman-kevin-rubletz-murder-trial-1.4388587

"At least 30 witnesses are expected to testify at the murder trial for a Calgary man accused of killing the mother of his child.

Kevin Rubletz, 33, is charged with second-degree murder in the death of Jessica Newman, 24. The trial begins Monday morning.
....
Crown prosecutors Shane Parker and Tom Spark will deliver an opening statement which will outline their theory of what happened to Newman, why she was killed and the evidence jurors can expect to hear. Newman's best friend will be the first witness to testify."

and another:
http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/second-degree-murder-trial-of-kevin-rubletz-set-to-begin-monday-1.3664611

 

[deugirtni]

"Calgary mother Jessica Newman died in a “crime of passion” jurors heard in the Crown’s opening statement on Monday.
....
Crown Prosecutor Shane Parker told the jury the case was a classic “whodunit.”
....
An autopsy revealed she was stabbed 75 times. Her body was partially clothed.

Parker told jurors Newman was killed “while she was intimate and vulnerable.”

“This was a spontaneous but intentional murder,” Parker said.

He said an examination of Newman’s phone showed there was “romance, sex and love” between the accused and Newman in the months leading up to her death.
....
Parker said Newman’s DNA was found in Rubletz’s van, which had been taken to an auto wrecker.

He said a search of the van showed “a botched cleanup,” that included areas of the front driver and passenger seats cut out.
...."


https://globalnews.ca/news/3842773/...sed-of-killing-calgary-mother-jessica-newman/

 

[deugirtni]

"Newman and Rubletz had an on-again, off-again relationship and had a child together. At the time of her death, they were seeing other people but were exchanging messages of "romance, sex and love" between December 2014 and March 2015.
....
The Crown's theory is that Newman was sitting in the front seat of Rubletz' van in a state of undress — when her body was found, Newman's black lace dress was found pulled down to her waist — indicates the killing was spontaneous but intentional.
....
Jurors heard Calgary police questioned Rubletz several times and noted changes in his version of events.
....
At one point, he told police they could have his cellphone but then said he'd lost it.

After Newman's body was discovered in May 2015 in a ditch near Balzac, Rubletz's grandmother, mother and stepfather took the van to a scrap yard but police were able to intercept it and run tests.

A forensic police expert will testify that a "bloodletting event" took place in Rubletz' van and Newman's DNA was discovered on the front passenger seat. Parker told jurors the van shows evidence of a "botched cleanup."
....
Chamberlain said Newman was "battling for 50 per cent custody" of her youngest son and had been changing her life to be a better mother to her sons."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/jessica-newman-kevin-rubletz-murder-trial-1.4388587

 

[otto]

"Calgary mother Jessica Newman died in a “crime of passion” jurors heard in the Crown’s opening statement on Monday.
....
Crown Prosecutor Shane Parker told the jury the case was a classic “whodunit.”
....
An autopsy revealed she was stabbed 75 times. Her body was partially clothed.

Parker told jurors Newman was killed “while she was intimate and vulnerable.”

“This was a spontaneous but intentional murder,” Parker said.

He said an examination of Newman’s phone showed there was “romance, sex and love” between the accused and Newman in the months leading up to her death.
....
Parker said Newman’s DNA was found in Rubletz’s van, which had been taken to an auto wrecker.

He said a search of the van showed “a botched cleanup,” that included areas of the front driver and passenger seats cut out.
...."


https://globalnews.ca/news/3842773/...sed-of-killing-calgary-mother-jessica-newman/

Does crime of passion mean second degree? 75 stab wounds is an awful lot of anger, so did he routinely carry a knife and he just happened to have it handy when he got angry?

 

[otto]

"Newman and Rubletz had an on-again, off-again relationship and had a child together. At the time of her death, they were seeing other people but were exchanging messages of "romance, sex and love" between December 2014 and March 2015.
....
The Crown's theory is that Newman was sitting in the front seat of Rubletz' van in a state of undress — when her body was found, Newman's black lace dress was found pulled down to her waist — indicates the killing was spontaneous but intentional.
....
Jurors heard Calgary police questioned Rubletz several times and noted changes in his version of events.
....
At one point, he told police they could have his cellphone but then said he'd lost it.

After Newman's body was discovered in May 2015 in a ditch near Balzac, Rubletz's grandmother, mother and stepfather took the van to a scrap yard but police were able to intercept it and run tests.

A forensic police expert will testify that a "bloodletting event" took place in Rubletz' van and Newman's DNA was discovered on the front passenger seat. Parker told jurors the van shows evidence of a "botched cleanup."
....
Chamberlain said Newman was "battling for 50 per cent custody" of her youngest son and had been changing her life to be a better mother to her sons."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/jessica-newman-kevin-rubletz-murder-trial-1.4388587

Two things stand out:

She was in a relationship with the suspect, and she was seeing other people at the same time. That's always a recipe for disaster.

This is particularly interesting: "Rubletz's grandmother, mother and stepfather took the van to a scrap yard but police were able to intercept it and run tests." The van is a botched clean up of a murder where his missing girlfriend received 75 stab wounds and they were taking the crime scene to the scrap yard rather than contacting police? I see that as a serious problem.

 

[LadyL]

they were both seeing other people ... why phrase it like she was the only one?

Two things stand out:

She was in a relationship with the suspect, and she was seeing other people at the same time. That's always a recipe for disaster.

This is particularly interesting: "Rubletz's grandmother, mother and stepfather took the van to a scrap yard but police were able to intercept it and run tests." The van is a botched clean up of a murder where his missing girlfriend received 75 stab wounds and they were taking the crime scene to the scrap yard rather than contacting police? I see that as a serious problem.

 

[otto]

they were both seeing other people ... why phrase it like she was the only one?

Good question. Men historically are very territorial about their women, but they don't see anything wrong with having a mistress on the side. She may not have been bothered by him seeing other women, but given that they had a child together and were still sexually and romantically involved, he is more likely to have the double standard where he is jealous of her other relationships.

On the other hand, perhaps that wasn't a factor, and he murdered her strictly because of challenges with sorting out shared custody. Obviously that was a stupid move because now the child is orphaned.

 

[deugirtni]

"when her body was found, Newman's black lace dress was found pulled down to her waist — indicates the killing was spontaneous but intentional."

and

"An autopsy revealed she was stabbed 75 times. "

I would guess that it would be difficult to NOT be intentional if there were 75 stab wounds?

 

[otto]

"when her body was found, Newman's black lace dress was found pulled down to her waist — indicates the killing was spontaneous but intentional."

and

"An autopsy revealed she was stabbed 75 times. "

I would guess that it would be difficult to NOT be intentional if there were 75 stab wounds?

Dumb question, but how does one pull the top of a dress down? Don't they slide on over the head, making the top too narrow to fit over the shoulders? Was it a black lace "stretchy" dress, or was it torn? If it was torn, then perhaps it was used to control her, and hold her.

Crime of passion typically describes a spontaneous, non-premeditated event where the murder is a reaction rather than an intent. I think that typically results in a ten year sentence, which would be a shame given the injuries, and the lengths to which the suspect and his family went to cover the crime.

 

[LoisLane]

Dumb question, but how does one pull the top of a dress down? Don't they slide on over the head, making the top too narrow to fit over the shoulders? Was it a black lace "stretchy" dress, or was it torn? If it was torn, then perhaps it was used to control her, and hold her.

Crime of passion typically describes a spontaneous, non-premeditated event where the murder is a reaction rather than an intent. I think that typically results in a ten year sentence, which would be a shame given the injuries, and the lengths to which the suspect and his family went to cover the crime.

Dress was probably Strapless.. no arms.

Family panicked about the van.. dumb move. I hope the blood evidence is substantial. They probably had sex in the van multiple times other than that night. I'm curious if her body had his DNA inside her or if that can't be determined because of the condition her body was found.