GUILTY Canada - Kienan Hebert, 3, Sparwood BC, 7 Sept 2011 - #1

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http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110907/110907_amber_alert/20110908/?hub=CP24Home
RCMP Cpl. Dan Moskaluk declined to say what led police to issue an Amber Alert targeting Hopley.

"I don't have the full background on Mr. Hopley, certainly more information will become available as we can release it," Moskaluk told reporters.

"Putting it bluntly, amongst us we do have people that have previously been involved in criminal activity in a variety of criminal offences. ... Some of them become quite good citizens and partake in our communities and integrate back, but some don't."

I have a lot of respect for the RCMP and a friend of mine is an officer but when someone like this creep got away with abducting a child, I would consider that a major criminal offense versus let's say someone with a drug related record, KWIM? This guy should've been watched 24/7.

I'd like to know why his previous charge was dropped!

 

[plaidmom]

I keep hoping hoping hoping for a "found safe" message for this little guy!!!

 

[brighidin]

I have a lot of respect for the RCMP and a friend of mine is an officer but when someone like this creep got away with abducting a child, I would consider that a major criminal offense versus let's say someone with a drug related record, KWIM? This guy should've been watched 24/7.

I'd like to know why his previous charge was dropped!

Lack of evidence, according to this article.
he was also convicted of sexual assault in the 1980s and spent time in prison.
"In the mid-1980s, Hopley was convicted of sexual assault and sentenced to two years in federal prison, the National Parole Board confirmed. Hopley finished serving that term in September 1987, but the board didn't have any further information because its records are destroyed after 10 years."
http://tinyurl.com/3dgryhu
(article from Winnipeg FP)

 

[dotr]

SPARWOOD, B.C. — From the thick underbrush surrounding the half-completed mountain suburb of Sparwood Heights, all that can be heard is the sound of a dozen trekking feet and a lone female voice wailing: "Kienan. Mommy loves you," again and again.


It's a trigger word, explained Simon Piney, one of the managers of the search-and-rescue effort trying to locate three-year-old Kienan Hebert.


"Kids are often scared by strangers, so if he hears a bunch of people crashing through the woods yelling: 'Hey, Hey, Hey.' He's more likely to hide," Piney said.


Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/S...ild+criminal/5367388/story.html#ixzz1XPJUSuwn




Moskaluk said 20 investigators from across B.C. have arrived in Sparwood to help on the case, and RCMP officers are busy following up on hundreds of tips.


The search has now expanded into Alberta and Washington State.


Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/S...ild+criminal/5367388/story.html#ixzz1XPHu3MZa

 

[cluciano63]

Lack of evidence, according to this article.
he was also convicted of sexual assault in the 1980s and spent time in prison.
"In the mid-1980s, Hopley was convicted of sexual assault and sentenced to two years in federal prison, the National Parole Board confirmed. Hopley finished serving that term in September 1987, but the board didn't have any further information because its records are destroyed after 10 years."
http://tinyurl.com/3dgryhu
(article from Winnipeg FP)

If he went to a federal prison why were his records destroyed? I am not too hot on how easy Canada often is on crime and criminals anyway (no offense anyone)- is this another example?

 

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SPARWOOD, B.C. — From the thick underbrush surrounding the half-completed mountain suburb of Sparwood Heights, all that can be heard is the sound of a dozen trekking feet and a lone female voice wailing: "Kienan. Mommy loves you," again and again.


It's a trigger word, explained Simon Piney, one of the managers of the search-and-rescue effort trying to locate three-year-old Kienan Hebert.


"Kids are often scared by strangers, so if he hears a bunch of people crashing through the woods yelling: 'Hey, Hey, Hey.' He's more likely to hide," Piney said.


Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/S...ild+criminal/5367388/story.html#ixzz1XPJUSuwn




Moskaluk said 20 investigators from across B.C. have arrived in Sparwood to help on the case, and RCMP officers are busy following up on hundreds of tips.


The search has now expanded into Alberta and Washington State.


Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/S...ild+criminal/5367388/story.html#ixzz1XPHu3MZa

:cry: Heartbreaking

How would the monster get across the border without a passport?

 

[~n/t~]

If he went to a federal prison why were his records destroyed? I am not too hot on how easy Canada often is on crime and criminals anyway (no offense anyone)- is this another example?

Yes. Our judicial system sucks. This case is just more proof.

 

[brighidin]

If he went to a federal prison why were his records destroyed? I am not too hot on how easy Canada often is on crime and criminals anyway (no offense anyone)- is this another example?

Yeah, ridiculously easy on criminals!

I used to work in records management at a Canadian university and it blows my mind that routine administrative records are kept for way longer than parole records. I didn't know that!

 

[MEM2010]

SPARWOOD, B.C. — From the thick underbrush surrounding the half-completed mountain suburb of Sparwood Heights, all that can be heard is the sound of a dozen trekking feet and a lone female voice wailing: "Kienan. Mommy loves you," again and again.



Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/S...ild+criminal/5367388/story.html#ixzz1XPJUSuwn

Oh that poor mother. She is so strong. I really hope this little guy comes home safely to the family that loves him.

 

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Piney said local search and rescue teams have already scoured the most obvious places little Kienan could be hiding — empty attics, basements, fields and trees. A fire truck made the rounds Wednesday night with its lights flashing.


"Little kids love fire trucks," explained another search and rescue manager, Ed Ehrler.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Se...ion+missing+child+criminal/5373320/story.html

:cry:


Hope he gets a ride on a fire truck when he comes home.

 

[plaidmom]

Yes. Our judicial system sucks. This case is just more proof.

Hey Canadians, our neighbors to the north: don't be so hard on yourselves or your country. It's not like we here in the USA are any better (Casey Anthony anyone???). Perhaps we in fact put too many innocent people to death? Some think so. Is that somehow any better?

The fact is sometimes Evil wins. And yes, that sucks.

Still hoping hoping hoping for the best outcome in this case!

 

[dotr]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/09/08/missing-boy-a-‘shock’-to-tight-knit-b-c-town/
"Prosecutors in the case alleged that Hopley had stalked a mentally handicapped child, shining a flashlight into his room. The boy’s foster mother later found the home alarm disabled and the battery lying in the yard.

Two days later, the mother heard someone talking to her foster son in his room, but the person ran out the back door when she went to investigate. The screen on the bedroom window had been removed and the boy told his foster mother that a man had tried to force him out of the window"


Criminal history for Randall Peter Hopley, 46:
•Sept. 4, 1985: Convicted of sexual assault. Sentenced to two years in prison.
•June 24, 2003: Convicted of breaking into a Sparwood business and stealing nearly $800.
•August 17, 2006: Convicted of breaking and entering and committing an indictable offence.
•March 31, 2008: Convicted of breaking-and-entering in a case the judge said had involved the attempted abduction of a mentally handicapped boy. Charges of attempted abduction were withdrawn, according to media accounts.
•June 2010: Charged with breaking into a cabin where he was allegedly squatting. The Calgary couple who owned the cabin found vehicles, furniture, generators, gas tanks, electronics and power tools in the home that didn’t belong to them. Some of the items had been stolen from a separate cabin break-in, police said, and charged Hopley with theft under $5,000.
•May 30, 2011: Convicted of breach of undertaking or recognizance.
•June 16, 2011: Convicted of assault.

 

[cluciano63]

Hey Canadians, our neighbors to the north: don't be so hard on yourselves or your country. It's not like we here in the USA are any better (Casey Anthony anyone???). Perhaps we in fact put too many innocent people to death? Some think so. Is that somehow any better?

The fact is sometimes Evil wins. And yes, that sucks.

Still hoping hoping hoping for the best outcome in this case!

Canada is notoriously light on sentencing and also very seldom will inflict life in prison, I did not know they also wipe away felonies after 10 years. I find that close to irresponsible...people have a right to know, if they check, when someone has served time in a federal prison, IMO.

 

[~n/t~]

Hey Canadians, our neighbors to the north: don't be so hard on yourselves or your country. It's not like we here in the USA are any better (Casey Anthony anyone???). Perhaps we in fact put too many innocent people to death? Some think so. Is that somehow any better?

The fact is sometimes Evil wins. And yes, that sucks.

Still hoping hoping hoping for the best outcome in this case!

When we make plea deals with the devil (aka Karla Homolka) and get this guy off after 12 break ins and a sexual assault on a 10 year old, it makes me and I'm sure many of my fellow Canadians very angry.

We have stupid privacy laws so guys like this are protected. What about innocent children? What about innocent families who just want to live a peaceful life in a neighbourhood they thought was safe?

At least y'all get a sex offender list. We get a big fat nothing.

Sorry. This makes me soooo angry. It needs to change. I'm actually shocked they issued an Amber Alert that quickly. Maybe we're finally getting it?

 

[~n/t~]

Well I'm off for the night. Continued prayers for Kienan :rose:

 

[Wondergirl]

Is there a scanner thread for Kienan?

There is talk about 3 helicopter in the Elk Valley on a scanner from FB. Not sure which one.

ETA: Elepher50 started a Scanner Thread here at WS for Kienan. It is in a Member's Only forum here called the Parking Lot. You must be registered to view it. What is heard on the scanner stays there, as per TOS.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[SilkySifaka]

Hey Canadians, our neighbors to the north: don't be so hard on yourselves or your country. It's not like we here in the USA are any better (Casey Anthony anyone???). Perhaps we in fact put too many innocent people to death? Some think so. Is that somehow any better?

The fact is sometimes Evil wins. And yes, that sucks.

Still hoping hoping hoping for the best outcome in this case!

I don't think our Canadian one sucks. We have less crime per capita than in the states so somehow things are working over all.

We do have our monsters though and looks like this guy is one of them.

 

[Wondergirl]

Sparwood, B.C. to Elkford, B.C. Straight up Highway 43

http://maps.google.ca/maps?saddr=Sp...wUzHlPFrmY3FPDA&vpsrc=0&gl=ca&mra=ls&t=m&z=10

 

[Wondergirl]

This is terrible.

Mother warned community about abduction suspect

The mother of a young boy she says was kidnapped by Randall Hopley four years ago is horrified by news that he may have abducted a three-year-old B.C. boy.

The Kelowna woman, who cannot be identified because her child is in foster care, says that when she heard about the disappearance of Kienan Hebert on Wednesday, it was almost too much to take.

"Words cannot describe how I felt, and it was like re-living the nightmare all over again," she told CTV News.

Along with a break-and-enter charge Hopley pleaded guilty to in 2008, he was also originally charged with unlawful confinement and abduction of a person under the age of 14. Those charges were stayed.

The boy in that case told his mother that he was molested by Hopley on at least two occasions.

"I said, ‘Buddy we've got to talk.' He said, ‘OK Mom, it was Randy Hopley.' And he told his sister and he told me every graphic detail," she said.

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/...ther_110908/20110908/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

 

[Wondergirl]

This right here is exactly what I was afraid of.

Hopley's prior abduction attempt had him squatting in the boy's home for 4 hours prior to abducting him.

I do wonder if this is what happened to the Hebert's also.

Investigators said they believe Hopley broke into the home around 10:30 p.m., but waited four hours before trying to abduct the child and then returned later that night to try again.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/09/08/missing-boy-a-%E2%80%98shock%E2%80%99-to-tight-knit-b-c-town/