GUILTY Canada - Loretta Saunders, 26, Halifax, NS, 13 February 2014 #2

[newone]

Melissa Richards found same week there is another stabbing (fatal) in Petawawa ? coincidence?? There's a publication blackout on Brian Goddard's case .... too coincidental and given that VL commented on Melissa Richard's case cause for pause...

 

[Truth Prevails]

Am I seeing a resemblance of Loretta and Melissa?

Yes I thought so right away but never mentioned it. Very strange. Especially since VL commented on this case.

yes.....very interesting

Sign me up as seeing a resemblance, too.

 

[mye400can]

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On a cursory glance ( even if it was validated that they lived in the same area and at the same time ) I don't think there would be a significant probable chance they were even in the same social circles.

If geographic linkage was validated; I would look at possible stronger connections.

It was mentioned that Victoria was an administrator for DND ( this claim would have to be validated ). The accused was at the time a 25 year warrant officer in the Canadian Armed Forces and has been posted to mapping and charting establishment in Ottawa for years, according to friends.
. // one possibility

It has come to surface that Victoria at one time was a prostitute.This could potentially put these two together.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10285905&highlight=Prostitute#post10285905

// another possibility

Iron sharpeneth Iron.

Victoria Henneberry linkedin page: https://touch.www.linkedin.com/?ses...nkedin.com/pub/victoria-henneberry/85/a19/5ba

Says she was a Administrator for the
Department of National Defence

 

[otto]

History has a way of repeating itself.

It's good to take a minute and look back sometimes, least we forget.

The author of that piece is Darryl Leroux who: "...teaches sociology and criminology in K’jipuktuk, Sikep’nekatik district, Mi’kma’ki. He was supervising Loretta Saunders' honours degree thesis, on missing and murdered indigenous women...."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/aboriginal/trying-to-make-sense-of-loretta-saunders-death-1.2555237

It is important to understand history and context. Money was paid for scalps of British nationals and aboriginals. Micmacs scalped the British three hundred years ago.

"The act of scalping in the modern era was practiced by colonists and frontiersmen, as well as Native Americans, across centuries of violent conflict. Some Mexican (e.g., Sonora and Chihuahua) and American territories (e.g., Arizona) paid bounties for enemy Native American scalps. Scalping was not practiced by all Native Americans.
...

Ammianus Marcellinus described scalping by the Alans, a nomadic people of Iranian origin and the ancestors of the Ossetians (scalping being still remembered in Ossetian folklore).
...

There were six colonial wars with New England and the Iroquois Confederacy fighting New France and the Wabanaki Confederacy over a seventy-five year period, starting with King William's War in 1688. All sides scalped victims including noncombatants during this Frontier warfare.
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During Father Le Loutre's War and the French and Indian War in Nova Scotia and Acadia, French colonists offered payments to Indians for British scalps. In 1749, British Governor Edward Cornwallis offered payment to New England Rangers for Indian scalps. Both the Mi'kmaq people and the British killed combatants and non-combatants (i.e., women, children and infants). During the French and Indian War, Governor of Nova Scotia Charles Lawrence also offered a reward for male Mi'kmaq scalps in 1756."

Scalping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JimMk]

Another thing I noticed is that in a few pics where VH is blonde, she seems to be going for a kind of a Karla Homolka look. Perhaps a fascination with serial killers like Luka Magnotta had?

 

[otto]

Victoria Henneberry linkedin page: https://touch.www.linkedin.com/?ses...nkedin.com/pub/victoria-henneberry/85/a19/5ba

Says she was a Administrator for the
Department of National Defence

According to her age, she would have had that job from the age of 16.

 

[mye400can]

According to her age, she would have had that job from the age of 16.

That's true maybe it was less years. Or she was a Administrator administering sexual acts for members of the
Department of National Defence

 

[elepher50]

Have not been on much today - are you seeing a pattern of behaviors or just a resemblance between Melissa and Loretta? Someone mentioned early on in the first LS thread that VH whereabouts should be tracked across Canada for say the last 8 years. There was a timeline of her whereabouts that somebody put together back in the first thread. I do believe it was Otto who mentioned to 'track VH whereabouts' to see if there were any similar cases.

 

[JimMk]

That's true maybe it was less years. Or she was a Administrator administering sexual acts for members of the
Department of National Defence

My thoughts exactly.

 

[elepher50]

According to her age, she would have had that job from the age of 16.

Yes, she lies imo.

 

[kdgdid]

According to her age, she would have had that job from the age of 16.

I highly doubt she worked for DND, she was 17 when she left the CAS system ,she did not finish school and moved quite often. She also is a known liar.

 

[mye400can]

Have not been on much today - are you seeing a pattern of behaviors or just a resemblance between Melissa and Loretta? Someone mentioned early on in the first LS thread that VH whereabouts should be tracked across Canada for say the last 8 years. There was a timeline of her whereabouts that somebody put together back in the first thread. I do believe it was Otto who mentioned to 'track VH whereabouts' to see if there were any similar cases.

I'm new here so don't really know much about other cases. Anyone who is not new and know unsolved cases that resembles the the Loretta case and melissa case and grab photos of them side by side to see if we see resemblance and a pattern?

 

[otto]

I'm new here so don't really know much about other cases. Anyone who is not new and know unsolved cases that resembles the the Loretta case and melissa case and grab photos of them side by side to see if we see resemblance and a pattern?

There does not appear to be any connection between the murder of Melissa Richmond and Loretta Saunders. Melissa's husband has been charged with first degree murder. This arrest, like the arrest of Victoria and Blake, was not a careless decision.

"A soldier accused of killing his young wife, who was found stabbed to death in a South Keys ravine, has abandoned a bid for bail.

None of Melissa Richmond's friends or family were in court Wednesday as Judge Bonnie Warkentin was scheduled to deliver her decision on whether Howard Richmond would be released. He is charged with first-degree murder in her death."

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/01/29/accused-in-melissa-richmond-murder-drops-bail-bid

 

[JimMk]

There does not appear to be any connection between the murder of Melissa Richmond and Loretta Saunders. Melissa's husband has been charged with first degree murder. This arrest, like the arrest of Victoria and Blake, was not a careless decision.

"A soldier accused of killing his young wife, who was found stabbed to death in a South Keys ravine, has abandoned a bid for bail.

None of Melissa Richmond's friends or family were in court Wednesday as Judge Bonnie Warkentin was scheduled to deliver her decision on whether Howard Richmond would be released. He is charged with first-degree murder in her death."

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/01/29/accused-in-melissa-richmond-murder-drops-bail-bid

Anyone charged with first degree murder rarely makes bail in Canada anyway. Perhaps he believes it's futile. I'm not saying he's innocent, just saying LE perhaps should grill VH a little more. We don't need another David Milgaard or Donald Marshall situation. Make sure all the bases are covered.

 

[codeofhonour]

Yes, VH's "connection" to the military crossed my mind as well. As did the prostitute revelation. She seems to have been friendly with a few soldiers on here FB page.

// Would be interesting to data mine his freinds against the soldiers Victoria H has befriended a few layers deep and see the degree of seperation.

Personally I think it's a long shot and have the correct suspect charged.

 

[otto]

Anyone charged with first degree murder rarely makes bail in Canada anyway. Perhaps he believes it's futile. I'm not saying he's innocent, just saying LE perhaps should grill VH a little more. We don't need another David Milgaard or Donald Marshall situation. Make sure all the bases are covered.

The trial is scheduled for May 13, so if the evidence isn't there, he will be found not guilty. I don't think there's any reason to re-examine murders across the country where there has already been an arrest or a conviction.

 

[otto]

// Would be interesting to data mine his freinds against the soldiers Victoria H has befriended a few layers deep and see the degree of desperation.

What connection is there between Melissa Richmond and Blake/Victoria? I can't seen even one fact that is similar between that murder and Loretta, other than the victims being left in a median or ditch between two roads ... which is not a unique factor in murder.

 

[otto]

I think that Victoria was a crime fan. There's also the case of Jason Love, who murdered a taxi driver in Banff for $130. Victoria uses the name "Victoria Love" in one of her facebook pages.

http://www.calgarysun.com/2011/08/31/platt-family-stoic-as-cowardly-killer-paroled

 

[JimMk]

And I agree with you Otto, but if there's a connection (however tenuous), it should be at least be given a look. Even a simple comment like she made on the case could lead to a whole lot more. Then again, maybe it won't. I'm sure LE is doing their homework and will check it out just to be safe.

 

[codeofhonour]

What connection is there between Melissa Richmond and Blake/Victoria? I can't seen even one fact that is similar between that murder and Loretta, other than the victims being left in a median or ditch between two roads ... which is not a unique factor in murder.

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There is no connection period. [modsnip].