GUILTY Canada - Loretta Saunders, 26, Halifax, NS, 13 February 2014 #2

[otto]

Loretta's brother reported on Feb 18 that Loretta told him three weeks earlier that she was pregnant.

 

[LadyL]

Yes that's my point, two entirely different things.
However you could see this coming from early on when she was missing. Especially after her advisor's post about her thesis proposal that we all discussed. I understand WHY they are doing this but I have to say it is unsettling to me. I feel like I am watching something " staged" unroll as if her death was the " cause" needed. It became a "movement" from minute one . I don't think anyone else had anything to do with her death, but some of the propaganda machines wasted no time creating an issue from it. It became an us against them and that didn't / doesn't sit well with me .

Sorry if this isn't coming across right, I am having trouble explaining why this whole media blitz on the race aspect of this bothers me. It's like its all a big plan coming together and while I get it, I still feel Loretta is/ will be lost in the mix somehow. I cant explain this properly here. I feel she is being used I guess is the simplest explanation.

I understand your feeling unsettled but the fact is that Loretta is a native woman who was murdered and violence against natives is a hot-topic in this country. I think people are getting into a whole lot of semantics regarding her thesis proposal topic and the motive for her murder etc. No one had to create an issue - it was already there, especially with the highway of tears missing and murdered cases. I'm caucasion and I don't feel like there's an "us against them" vibe at all. Yes, the media and some activists are pushing their agendas but this spotlight on certain issues is one that I welcome.

Until they all come home is my new mantra.

 

[Karjinx]

How do you bring over a post from the first thread of Loretta's disappearance? I think #943 that was written by True Crime Gal has some importance. It's the one about "February 14th being - Global Day for Missing& Murdered Indigenous Women.

And maybe this is what the family might have some inside information on that some of us suspect and why it keeps getting tweeted and mentioned in the media.

If someone can pop thread # 943 over here, I would appreciate it.

If Loretta went missing on Feb 13th, normal police procedure for an adult would be 24 hours......so she would be officially listed as missing on the 14th. Maybe that was Victoria's plan, but it didn't work quite that way. If it's true that they all once shared living quarters.....maybe Victoria read or heard about Loretta's thesis work and wanted to make her one of the "missing". Surely Loretta didn't carry her papers where ever she went. I'm sure her room mates must have seen it or heard Loretta speak about it. Maybe Victoria has a hate on for Indigenous people, perhaps one of her biological or foster parent were indigenous people.

 

[otto]

Something occurred to me last night which I don't think I've seen mentioned on this thread. I'm sure it is a huge coincidence, but it gave me the chills when I remembered it.

Feb 14th marks the Global Day for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women (#MMIW). More info here.

tcg

Is this what you're looking for?

 

[Karjinx]

Is this what you're looking for?

Yes! Thank you Otto. If LE is following our site, I think this may (or may not) be something to consider. I couldn't figure out how to move the post over. For me, the quote button was missing on True Crime Gal's post.
Thanks again.

 

[melodytime]

Dear Websleuth members, Please try harder to find Mr. Blake Leggette's BG . You are so smart, you have your connections. Hunt hard

 

[newone]

Dear Websleuth members, Please try harder to find Mr. Blake Leggette's BG . You are so smart, you have your connections. Hunt hard

what's BG?? (background??)

 

[PonderingNS]

As far as an online background for BL I think we have posted all there is likely to be. The stuff about him seeming to want to look like his dad etc which was removed.
I think if he was broke and living in one of the transient tent camps that pop up around Halifax he very likely didn't have funds for a computer or phone and internet so his electronic footprint would be minimal if any. Just my thoughts in it.

 

[musicaljoke]

If Loretta went missing on Feb 13th, normal police procedure for an adult would be 24 hours......so she would be officially listed as missing on the 14th.

There is no 24 hour waiting period for filing, reporting or listing a missing person in Canada. A person can be listed as missing as soon as it is reported.

Much critical time can be lost in an investigation if people believe that they have to wait 24 hours to report a missing person, or that the police will wait 24 hours to act on a report.

If you believe someone is missing, go to the police immediately.

http://missingpersonsinformation.ca/resources/quick-facts-about-reporting-a-missing-adult-in-canada/

 

[mye400can]

There is no 24 hour waiting period for filing, reporting or listing a missing person in Canada. A person can be listed as missing as soon as it is reported.

Much critical time can be lost in an investigation if people believe that they have to wait 24 hours to report a missing person, or that the police will wait 24 hours to act on a report.

If you believe someone is missing, go to the police immediately.

http://missingpersonsinformation.ca/resources/quick-facts-about-reporting-a-missing-adult-in-canada/

That's true to a point.

I remember from when living in group homes that if your over the age of 16 and you go awal and staff call police they would tell staff that since they are over the age of 16 that they can't file or look for till it was 24 hrs awal.

 

[Truth Prevails]

holy batman that's complicated

Yes, it is.

And I looked around for the simplest one I could find.

 

[Truth Prevails]

I understand your feeling unsettled but the fact is that Loretta is a native woman who was murdered and violence against natives is a hot-topic in this country. I think people are getting into a whole lot of semantics regarding her thesis proposal topic and the motive for her murder etc. No one had to create an issue - it was already there, especially with the highway of tears missing and murdered cases. I'm caucasion and I don't feel like there's an "us against them" vibe at all. Yes, the media and some activists are pushing their agendas but this spotlight on certain issues is one that I welcome.

Until they all come home is my new mantra.

I agree, LadyL.

Maybe you have already read the following, but if not, I think you could appreciate it.

It offers a fascinating look from their point of view--a view that I often don't take enough time for.

I Am Accountable to Loretta Saunders
By Sarah Hunt
Posted in - Voices Rising on March 3rd, 2014
As the news of Loretta Saunders’ death settles in, I cycle through waves of sadness, anger, and resignation.
http://nationsrising.org/i-am-accountable-to-loretta-saunders/

 

[Penelope]

I agree, LadyL.

Maybe you have already read the following, but if not, I think you could appreciate it.

It offers a fascinating look from their point of view--a view that I often don't take enough time for.

Dear Websleuthers - as a non-Indigenous participant in Canada's Indigenous community and a member of Websleuths, I appreciate the dialogue that is occurring here regarding the "connection" between Loretta Sanders and Canada's missing and murdered native women. However, it bothers me to read what I see as a one-sided discussion about the issue(s). In addition, I am not sure if this is the forum for such a discussion as may take us all away from helping to find the truth about Loretta's singular death/alleged murder.

I do propose that if the Websleuths Administrators wish to pursue such a path, I will contact some of the Indigenous leaders that I know who are part of the dialogue up here regarding violence against Canada's Indigenous population. Maybe I can help to arrange one of two of them to participate in a discussion on Trish's weekly radio show.

Just an offer so that we can all begin to understand from Canada's own Indigenous community why Loretta's murder has had such an impact.

Meegwich for letting me post about this. Those of you who know how to do so, please send this along to the site's administrators.

PS: I have made a few previous comments to try to explain what is going on up here in Canada regarding this issue, but since I am not a member of Canada's Indigenous/Aboriginal community, I feel that it is not my place to speak for them. That is why I have made the above suggestion.

 

[lillygator]

holy batman that's complicated

that is what I thought too..I guess I just don't understand why they are bringing that up in this case.

 

[Truth Prevails]

Here is something interesting that I think might be allowed to be added to our time line.

On September 28, 2013, Victoria was interested in buying a "real" gun.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/OV24hrYDSALE/permalink/152616751615652/?stream_ref=3

At that time, she was possibly living in Pembroke, Ontario and fantasizing about furthering her career to "make the big bucks."

She was debating about moving "home" to Halifax or out west. By November of 2013, she was purportedly living in Calgary.

 

[otto]

There is no 24 hour waiting period for filing, reporting or listing a missing person in Canada. A person can be listed as missing as soon as it is reported.

Much critical time can be lost in an investigation if people believe that they have to wait 24 hours to report a missing person, or that the police will wait 24 hours to act on a report.

If you believe someone is missing, go to the police immediately.

http://missingpersonsinformation.ca/resources/quick-facts-about-reporting-a-missing-adult-in-canada/

In this case, there was a delay in reporting for some other reason. Lorretta was reported missing by her father four days after she was last seen by her boyfriend.

 

[Karjinx]

Dear Websleuth members, Please try harder to find Mr. Blake Leggette's BG . You are so smart, you have your connections. Hunt hard

We have been racking our brains trying to find any scrap of information, any where. Our mission here is to help in any way we can. We research, try to develope theories, bring forward evidence gleaned from social media, etc.
I use my break & lunch at work totally consumed by this and other cases. If anyone knew BL's online name in any forum, they have not come forward with this info as of yet. There is always the possibility BL may not have ever been online. I have one family member myself who has never been online and has absolutely no interest. Another relative has only played an online game a couple times under someone else's profile.
If he only used a screen name, the only way to find anything on him would have to come from tip from a close friend of BL. We are not likely to get that info.

Rest assured....if anything is found on BL...the posts here will be fast & furious!

 

[Truth Prevails]

We have been racking our brains trying to find any scrap of information, any where. Our mission here is to help in any way we can. We research, try to develope theories, bring forward evidence gleaned from social media, etc.
I use my break & lunch at work totally consumed by this and other cases. If anyone knew BL's online name in any forum, they have not come forward with this info as of yet. There is always the possibility BL may not have ever been online. I have one family member myself who has never been online and has absolutely no interest. Another relative has only played an online game a couple times under someone else's profile.
If he only used a screen name, the only way to find anything on him would have to come from tip from a close friend of BL. We are not likely to get that info.

Rest assured....if anything is found on BL...the posts here will be fast & furious!

I'm reading between the lines here, and think you are suggesting that BL is a good mate for VH. :blushing:

I promise I won't be shocked by anything I read about him. I'm assuming you have the info from the rumours about him once living in a tent in Bedford and his family saying they love him but don't like him very much right now?

 

[mye400can]

Is it legal to try and gain access to Vicky's FB and other accounts?

Asking because she may have him on friends lists but has his account on priv so no way to see unless you have an account that he has accpected as friends (ie. Vicki's account) or email address on like hotmail or yahoo.

If its legal then maybe somone can try and access it?

 

[Truth Prevails]

Some beautiful memories of Loretta shared.

The Media Co-op | A Letter to my beautiful friend, Loretta Saunders
Blog posts reflect the views of their authors, and are not subject to Media Co-op journalistic standards.
By Annie Clair

Hi Loretta,

I'm so honoured, grateful and privileged to have had you as a friend for such a short time on our Journey of Life.

http://www.mediacoop.ca/blog/editor/22058

The Telegram | Metro News Halifax | Saint Mary’s University remembers Loretta Saunders
Deserie Murphy, Special to Metro HalifaxPublished on March 04, 2014
'She was really bright and really brave’

“I am so enraged that something like this had to happen to her,” Lopez said after the ceremony. “She made me feel welcome here even though I was a stranger. She would smile, she would say hi, when other people feigned blindness. She was really bright and really brave.”

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Loc...quo;s-University-remembers-Loretta-Saunders/1