GUILTY Canada - Loretta Saunders, 26, Halifax, NS, 13 February 2014 #2

[genbug84]

Is it legal to try and gain access to Vicky's FB and other accounts?

Asking because she may have him on friends lists but has his account on priv so no way to see unless you have an account that he has accpected as friends (ie. Vicki's account) or email address on like hotmail or yahoo.

If its legal then maybe somone can try and access it?

The Victoria Love profile used to be called Vicki N Blake, then it changed. Blake appears to have had his own facebook at one time but it closed out.

Also found this facebook page on google cache, notice that it was still active as of Feb 16/14. Since then it no longer appears to be up. Its under Victoria Henneberry, but the URL it VictoriaandBlake.Leggette.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...iaandblake.leggette+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

 

[kdgdid]

Is it legal to try and gain access to Vicky's FB and other accounts?

Asking because she may have him on friends lists but has his account on priv so no way to see unless you have an account that he has accpected as friends (ie. Vicki's account) or email address on like hotmail or yahoo.

If its legal then maybe somone can try and access it?

FB accounts are public so anyone can look at them.

It is my understanding that BL had a fb account a couple of years ago and deleted it. The V&BL account now on fb is the 2nd V&BL account. The original one is still on google cache but I can not access. It is my understanding he used to post on the google cache one.

 

[mye400can]

The Victoria Love profile used to be called Vicki N Blake, then it changed. Blake appears to have had his own facebook at one time but it closed out.

Also found this facebook page on google cache, notice that it was still active as of Feb 16/14. Since then it no longer appears to be up. Its under Victoria Henneberry, but the URL it VictoriaandBlake.Leggette.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...iaandblake.leggette+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

He could have the account on private. If I recall if its set on private it can't be searchable. So it shows up as its not there. Only if you know the account username (ie: victoriaandblake) then you can view it.

So what I'm trying to say is maybe he has an other account that's set on priv. If that other account is set on priv even if you look at Vicki's page and your not a friend of blake's then you can't even see blakes name on Vicki's friends list even if your a friend on Vicki's list.

This is why I was asking if its legal to gain access to Vicki's account so we can see a full friends list.

 

[otto]

He could have the account on private. If I recall if its set on private it can't be searchable. So it shows up as its not there. Only if you know the account username (ie: victoriaandblake) then you can view it.

So what I'm trying to say is maybe he has an other account that's set on priv. If that other account is set on priv even if you look at Vicki's page and your not a friend of blake's then you can't even see blakes name on Vicki's friends list even if your a friend on Vicki's list.

This is why I was asking if its legal to gain access to Vicki's account so we can see a full friends list.

I don't use facebook, but I do know that it is not a private system, regardless of privacy settings. The whole purpose of the site is to share information with the world. If it is possible to find a social media page for Blake (myspace was popular with his age group 5-10 years ago), I see no reason why it cannot be linked.

 

[mye400can]

FB accounts are public so anyone can look at them.

It is my understanding that BL had a fb account a couple of years ago and deleted it. The V&BL account now on fb is the 2nd V&BL account. The original one is still on google cache but I can not access. It is my understanding he used to post on the google cache one.

Not true. Even if her account is public and she has him on her friends list and if he has his account an the most private settings (ie: don't show me on friends lists to other friends) the only way to for sure to see her full friends lists to see if he does infact have a account that is set on private then we can see that page since you have now gained access to her account so now have access to her full lists of friends who are set on priv or not.

 

[mye400can]

I don't use facebook, but I do know that it is not a private system, regardless of privacy settings. The whole purpose of the site is to share information with the world. If it is possible to find a social media page for Blake (myspace was popular with his age group 5-10 years ago), I see no reason why it cannot be linked.

Yes its priv if you know how to set your privacy settings. You use privacy setings to block sertion users or all users. You can use it to not be searchable in search to members or non members. You can set it to not show you as a friend to your friends friends lists and so on.

Test it out. Make 4 accounts set each accoung privacy settings differently. Log out of accounts and you will see.

 

[kdgdid]

Not true. Even if her account is public and she has him on her friends list and if he has his account an the most private settings (ie: don't show me on friends lists to other friends) the only way to for sure to see her full friends lists to see if he does infact have a account that is set on private then we can see that page since you have now gained access to her account so now have access to her full lists of friends who are set on priv or not.

There is a couple of people on here and on the FB pg about LS that were friends of either VL's pg and or V&BL's pg it is my understanding there is no BL pg. I am not well versed on fb

 

[mye400can]

There is a couple of people on here and on the FB pg about LS that were friends of either VL's pg and or V&BL's pg it is my understanding there is no BL pg. I am not well versed on fb

Ok let me see if I can explain this.

Ok lets say you have a fb account and I have one. Mine is set to the max settings
Even if you have not set yours at all.

Your friends can't see my name on your friends list also non loged in members can't see my name on you friends list.

The only way to really know all friends on vl and or v&bl lists is to log under their accounts to see the true real full friends list

 

[Figuring]

Dear Websleuthers - as a non-Indigenous participant in Canada's Indigenous community and a member of Websleuths, I appreciate the dialogue that is occurring here regarding the "connection" between Loretta Sanders and Canada's missing and murdered native women. However, it bothers me to read what I see as a one-sided discussion about the issue(s). In addition, I am not sure if this is the forum for such a discussion as may take us all away from helping to find the truth about Loretta's singular death/alleged murder.

I do propose that if the Websleuths Administrators wish to pursue such a path, I will contact some of the Indigenous leaders that I know who are part of the dialogue up here regarding violence against Canada's Indigenous population. Maybe I can help to arrange one of two of them to participate in a discussion on Trish's weekly radio show.

Just an offer so that we can all begin to understand from Canada's own Indigenous community why Loretta's murder has had such an impact.

Meegwich for letting me post about this. Those of you who know how to do so, please send this along to the site's administrators.

PS: I have made a few previous comments to try to explain what is going on up here in Canada regarding this issue, but since I am not a member of Canada's Indigenous/Aboriginal community, I feel that it is not my place to speak for them. That is why I have made the above suggestion.

Thanks for this, I have felt this same way. I commented from the other side but it was deleted as it is arguably off-topic...

 

[otto]

Thanks for this, I have felt this same way. I commented from the other side but it was deleted as it is arguably off-topic...

I think that many people do not see a relationship between Loretta's murder and her research topic proposal, but there is a push to connect the two - all the way to federal gov't comments and a moment of silence for murdered aboriginal women in the House of Commons, so it is relevant. It is a topic that needs better understanding, but I'm of the opinion that Loretta's murder is not relevant to the topic ... instead seeing it as a murder unrelated to her ancestry.

 

[genbug84]

An obit for LS causing some controversy on fb now.
Notice it mentions LS former bf and not her current one YS.

Also, this came out while people were disputing that RF is LS boyfriend. A friend of LS confirmed RF is indeed a former partner, maybe even current of LS.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/trafficking-charges-laid-in-hopedale-1.750480

 

[otto]

An obit for LS causing some controversy on fb now.
Notice it mentions LS former bf and not her current one YS.

Also, this came out while people were disputing that RF is LS boyfriend. A friend of LS confirmed RF is indeed a former partner, maybe even current of LS.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/trafficking-charges-laid-in-hopedale-1.750480

That's all rather strange. The boyfriend quoted in the news, with whom she was living, said that they were still going to get blood tests to confirm the pregnancy. He said that he greatly appreciated that he was accepted by her family.

The family have said that they want to forgive Loretta's murderers. Is there something more to the story? Did Loretta's live-with boyfriend recommend Blake and Victoria as roommates? What could be the problem? Did Loretta confide in someone that the former boyfriend was most likely her partner in the pregnancy? Did the former boyfriend report that she was missing to the family? Was her life more complicated than it appeared on the surface?

 

[otto]

That name certainly brings up more information:

Jun 04, 2008
"Police in Labrador have charged two residents with trafficking in marijuana, following a raid on a private dwelling.

RCMP used a search warrant Tuesday to enter a house in Hopedale.

Police say they seized 30 grams of marijuana.

Loretta Saunders, 20, and Robbie Fillier, 38, have been charged with one count each of possessing marijuana for the purposes of trafficking."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/trafficking-charges-laid-in-hopedale-1.750480

 

[Salem]

Okay guys - let's stay on topic here. Loretta was killed over rent money- that's our focus.

The other issues are political in nature and this is not the place to discuss them. A few posts regarding the issue are still standing as "thinking" points, not for discussion.

Salem

 

[otto]

I'm not seeing anything about a former boyfriend in the obituary. Genbug, what is the link/source for the obituary image? Was the obituary edited, is there a different publication of the obituary than the link below, or did someone else add that information?

"It is with great sadness that the family of the late Loretta Saunders announce her tragic passing at the age of 26 years. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories are her parents: Clayton and Miriam Saunders; brothers: Edmund, Clayton Jr., James, Michael and Garrett; sisters: Audrey and Delilah and grandmother Grace Saunders; as well as a large circle of relatives and friends. She was predeceased by grandparents Dan and Fredericka Terriak and Grandfather Joseph Saunders. Visitation and Funeral date and times to be announced. As expressions of sympathy donations may be made to the family to assist with Funeral expenses. Funeral arrangements have been entrusted to Fillatre’s Funeral Home, Happy Valley Goose Bay."

http://www.lenecrologue.com/obituary/deceased/255168

 

[genbug84]

I'm not seeing anything about a former boyfriend in the obituary. Genbug, what is the link/source for the obituary image? Was the obituary edited, or did someone else add that information?

"It is with great sadness that the family of the late Loretta Saunders announce her tragic passing at the age of 26 years. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories are her parents: Clayton and Miriam Saunders; brothers: Edmund, Clayton Jr., James, Michael and Garrett; sisters: Audrey and Delilah and grandmother Grace Saunders; as well as a large circle of relatives and friends. She was predeceased by grandparents Dan and Fredericka Terriak and Grandfather Joseph Saunders. Visitation and Funeral date and times to be announced. As expressions of sympathy donations may be made to the family to assist with Funeral expenses. Funeral arrangements have been entrusted to Fillatre’s Funeral Home, Happy Valley Goose Bay."

http://www.lenecrologue.com/obituary/deceased/255168

After the first one went up, which I attached in previous post a photo of, a second came out, with no partner mentioned for LS at all....

 

[otto]

After the first one went up, which I attached in previous post a photo of, a second came out, with no partner mentioned for LS at all....

Thanks. It looks like adding the name of the partner caused a lot of controversy ... which is a good reason to omit his name. In fact, the first thing that people do is research the boyfriend and now we all know that Loretta was charged with trafficking drugs in 2008.

 

[PonderingNS]

Perhaps the blood tests that Yalcin referred to were for paternity not just pregnancy and that is why there was some confusion over the pregnancy length as well ?? He likely didn't want to mention that part.

 

[otto]

We also know that Loretta had something to do with methadone, which I understand is treatment for pharmaceutical addiction (but I know nothing about drug addiction). It's possible that as part of sentencing for drug trafficking, she had to enter treatment. Maybe this is how she turned her life around and enrolled in post-secondary studies.

 

[mye400can]

We also know that Loretta had something to do with methadone, which I understand is treatment for pharmaceutical addiction (but I know nothing about drug addiction). It's possible that as part of sentencing for drug trafficking, she had to enter treatment. Maybe this is how she turned her life around and enrolled in post-secondary studies.

methadone treatment is to get off of the drugs of oxycodone and/or oxycontin can't remember what one but its one or both.