CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #6

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not allowed to post rumors on here but iv seen the same ontario places as scrappy has said other places

I've seen the Northern ON stuff but nothing about Southern ON
 
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I've seen the Northern ON stuff but nothing about Southern ON

There has not been a sighting since last Monday in Gillam that the police consider credible. I’ll go with the police over the social media rumour mill :)
 
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I've said this all along, they reminded me of Millard and Smich. Thrill killing, even down to playing on Steam. Unlikely, but I wonder if they ever played on the same games together.
Oh yeah. And the similarities with Mark Smich and Bryer S. ........ Bryer uses one dimensional words to describe his budding murderous violent thoughts towards girls at school, then finds some satisfaction in 2 dimensional violent gaming and now apparently is experiencing murderous violence in 3 dimension(the ultimate satisfaction).

Mark Smich with his 1 dimensional rapping about murderous violence, the 2 dimensional violent gaming and then the 3 dimensional real murders.

It's not the fault of gaming. It's just that certain people with deranged violent thoughts get a very particular satisfaction from 2D violence and are attracted to it like a moth to a flame.

It's a compulsion.
 
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So, just speculation here, but if that mans account from the Facebook post where he helped the two in their rav4, that would mean they were both together in the same vehicle in gillam. The day after, the vehicle was torched. That would mean they did not have a second vehicle prior to arriving in gillam and that if they were to steal a vehicle, it would have been reported because the town is so small. This leads me to believe that they are still in gillam.
 
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Just might make sense to them and that is what makes it an interesting thought IMO!

Does anyone know what the security setup is around the hydro dams? Are the hydro dams owned by the State or are they private? Are the hydro dams deemed security risks and so are protected by military or special security? Don't know Canada but I know in other countries these types of facilities are sometimes deemed strategic and have special security, sometimes provided the State/Country.

How would they have gotten to the hydro dams? By vehicle or water? Or, could they have asked a worker heading in to simply give them a ride?

They would just continue relentlessly along the banks of the Nelson River.

Would think the dams have maximum security, but who knows.
 
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what i don't understand is why are these Vacant, we saw another a few days a go mentioned but i don't think we got an answer, are they only used in winter? or were they failed financial projects or left abandoned after the project completed?
seems like a lot of money to just leave vacant and also possibly dangerous for locals
Camps are quite common at different large construction projects that require hundreds and sometimes thousands of skilled trades workers who are brought in from across the country and world wide, usually for hydro projects things like that. When a project is finished, the contractors will often leave units on site and pay rent until they move them to the next mega project. Other times there are major followup upgrades so they need to have the camps available for the employees. In my province of BC right now there is a mega project in northern BC called the Site C dam construction they have thousands of workers rotating up there I think the camp there is bigger.
 
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I am sorry to say that the RCMP knew from day one that Chynna and Lucas were shot, and they chose to conceal that from the Canadian public. No warning to people along the Alaska Highway. Days went by and then LD was killed. At one press conference, the spokesperson said the information on how he was killed was not relevant at this time.

Maybe they should have warned the public about a shooter when they discovered the murders. This story was not picked up by the media outside of the local area until after the third murder. I'm sure if they knew about a shooter on the Alaska Highway, mass media would have covered it sooner.
 
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Camps are quite common at different large construction projects that require hundreds and sometimes thousands of skilled trades workers who are brought in from across the country and world wide, usually for hydro projects things like that. When a project is finished, the contractors will often leave units on site and pay rent until they move them to the next mega project. Other times there are major followup upgrades so they need to have the camps available for the employees

so it wouldn't just be left there to rot? because they said its vacant, would be interesting to know if someone is keeping it you know in aervice
thanks for the information
 
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I was thinking if anything is possible that maybe DW is linked to the missing woman Mary Byman, 84, out of Menisino which is awfully close to the US border so maybe he is making his way back to the states. Or he crossed into Ontario. Is there any chance these guys are connected from the gaming world? Trying my best not to share wild theories but why not?! Timeline and travel speed and making their way out of Canada or into Ontario.. anything is possible.

I doubt DW was into computer gaming. They do believe that he caught a ride in Winnipeg. This is a bit of distance away but here’s another one. Senior missing after departing Pincher Creek for the Okanagan
 
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Bonjour my friend from down under...
Why do you keep calling him Dennis? lol...his name is Derek or am I missing something?


nooo you got it right, I fixed it in my original post.. Derek sounds more ominous, anyways!!…
 
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So, just speculation here, but if that mans account from the Facebook post where he helped the two in their rav4, that would mean they were both together in the same vehicle in gillam. The day after, the vehicle was torched. That would mean they did not have a second vehicle prior to arriving in gillam and that if they were to steal a vehicle, it would have been reported because the town is so small. This leads me to believe that they are still in gillam.

The guy that helped them was in cold lake Alberta and took place the day before they were spotted in Gillam. One thing I think a lot of people are overlooking is how quick this escalated and if the two boys are in charge of their own destiny here and if video games are giving them the ideas or “training” then they are likely already thinking two steps ahead. They may have realized leaving bodies on the side of the road was to reckless. Nothing to say they haven’t kidnapped someone and their vehicle therefore no stolen vehicle being reported. Up in that part of the country it would not be hard to find a loner or hermit type that would make an excellent target. Just a nickel’s worth of thought. I just don’t see why these two would have torched the Rav all of a sudden or at all for that matter.
 
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so it wouldn't just be left there to rot? because they said its vacant, would be interesting to know if someone is keeping it you know in aervice
thanks for the information

It costs more to clean the site and dispose of everything legally than it does to just let it sit and rot. Happens more than you imagine.
 
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So, just speculation here, but if that mans account from the Facebook post where he helped the two in their rav4, that would mean they were both together in the same vehicle in gillam. The day after, the vehicle was torched. That would mean they did not have a second vehicle prior to arriving in gillam and that if they were to steal a vehicle, it would have been reported because the town is so small. This leads me to believe that they are still in gillam.

Good speculation but there's a big time window to consider:

Teens received assistance with stuck Rav4 on 7/21 when they were in Cold Lake.

Once they were on the road again -- they had to travel at least 14 - 15 hours to arrive Gillam where they torched the Rav4 on 7/22.

That's a lot of miles to cover where they could have picked up another vehicle (following each other to Gillam).

(We know that BS does not have a DL, but that doesn't mean he doesn't know how to drive).

I think it's most likely that they are still in Gillam, but wouldn't surprise me if they're not.

MOO
 
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So, just speculation here, but if that mans account from the Facebook post where he helped the two in their rav4, that would mean they were both together in the same vehicle in gillam. The day after, the vehicle was torched. That would mean they did not have a second vehicle prior to arriving in gillam and that if they were to steal a vehicle, it would have been reported because the town is so small. This leads me to believe that they are still in gillam.

Anywhere between Cold Lake, Alberta and Gillam, Manitoba they could have jacked another car. I bet the people of Meadow Lake even leave keys in their vehicles, or did.
 
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if video games are giving them the ideas or “training” then they are likely already thinking two steps ahead.

Have you ever played any of the games they’ve listed? They are not realistic at all, they would teach nothing about training, or anything really. It’s a little much to even call them strategy. It’s almost like recommending a teen go play Leisure Suit Larry to learn how to start dating.
 
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The very fact that there are lots of theories being advanced here with no actual evidence to support them just underscores the fact that the trail has gone cold.

The RCMP canvassing and ongoing searches will either lead to something or they won’t.

Hercules C130-H aerial photographs will either show something or they won’t.

There will either be a new sighting of these two or there won’t be.

Everything else is spinning tires :)
 
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Just might make sense to them and that is what makes it an interesting thought IMO!

Does anyone know what the security setup is around the hydro dams? Are the hydro dams owned by the State or are they private? Are the hydro dams deemed security risks and so are protected by military or special security? Don't know Canada but I know in other countries these types of facilities are sometimes deemed strategic and have special security, sometimes provided the State/Country.

How would they have gotten to the hydro dams? By vehicle or water? Or, could they have asked a worker heading in to simply give them a ride?

I can’t answer your questions but the RCMP have been tagging Manitoba Hydro in their tweets today. I find it unsettling actually. And if you go to the Hydro posts the crews work in muskeg and swampy conditions to get to poles that are down etc. It seems Northern Manitoba is having a lot of poles down and outages. It would be interesting to track to see if it could lead police to the suspects. Or maybe it’s just Mother Nature.

The hydro dam consideration terrifies me! What if these guys are capable of something big. There is also a fire near a northern Manitoba reserve and IIRC an evacuation. Again, could be Mother Nature but with these guys working their revenge and crazy game strategies I can’t help but consider what they could be capable of.
 
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Anywhere between Cold Lake, Alberta and Gillam, Manitoba they could have jacked another car. I bet the people of Meadow Lake even leave keys in their vehicles, or did.

By now any missing car or vehicle will be reported
 
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If they have an accomplice, I don’t think they met him in a video game. BS is a pro-Russia, pro-Trump, pro-Poutine, etc. Maybe he has an account on VK, the Russian alternative to Facebook. On this social platform, extremism is protected. Maybe they destroy their computer to be sure that this is not known. On his Facebook account, he like a group called ''Support the Peoples Republic of Donetsk'' It's a group with people who are against NATO, USA and EU. On VK, if he is a member, there is a lot of friends of that kind to make there.
 
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