Deceased/Not Found Canada - Lyle, 78, & Marie McCann, 77, Alberta, 5 July 2010 #2 *T. Vader guilty*

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  • #221
Wondergirl said:
BBM: Oh, dear. Someone here at WS had worried way back when, that they did not search Minnow Lake or the campground enough. Now LE is back there.

I wonder if LE has some sort of forensic evidence from the SUV indicating access to water? I doubt the McCann's themselves would have been near any lakes etc. The mud caked on the SUV may have indicated something.
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Yes Wondergirl, we were concerned that the burned out RV was not thoroughly investigated when it was discovered because it was a property crime, not a missing persons case. Once the McCanns were designated as a missing persons case, the area at Minnow Lake was searched more vigorously.

On Aug 8 I questioned if the area underneath the burned-out RV had been checked for any sign of excavation, and Aug 10, LE were back at the site.

This most recent search, although not classified as high priority, would appear to be the third time the area around the Minnow Lake Campground is being searched since Mr and Mrs McCann were classed as missing. Hopefully it is a result of evidence gleaned from the Campbell property that has provided a new lead, and additional impetus for LE to conduct this latest search.

I don't think LE is going to give up any time soon. This dear couple needs to be brought back to their loved ones and provided the dignity they so deserve.
 
  • #222
Summersolstice said:
Can't find the link now, but I recall BMcC saying that his father may have met someone. Brings me back to whoever he was talking to at the gas bar in that video.
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I wonder where Bobby Jo or Esther live in relation to the gas bar where the surveillance video was taken. Maybe BJ had her dates a bit messed (heh, heh), and TV was hitching a ride back to Niton?
 
  • #223
Officers returned over the weekend to investigate an area close to where the couple's burnt-out motorhome was found. Sgt. Tim Taniguchi tells 660News police are conducting a ground search near Minnow Lake. He says it was planned and not the result of any new information.Taniguichi says this is an ongoing investigation and he can't comment on any items found or seized.At any given time, between 18 and 20 full-time investigators are working on the case.
http://www.660news.com/news/local/a...inue-ground-search-for-missing-alberta-couple
 
  • #224
IMO I think the RCMP are trying to cover any and all bases before the weather changes and they are unable to search as easily.
 
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Printable Link Here:

http://missingpersonsalert.yolasite.com/resources/Lyle%20and%20Marie%20McCann%20MissingFinal3_fixed%283%29.pdf
 
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Sat Sep. 25 2010 17:49:56

Jessica Earle, ctvedmonton.ca

Just shy of a dozen family members launched their own investigation on Saturday, looking for evidence that will lead to a break in the case of a missing elderly couple.

A ground search was on near the community of Nojack, an area located about 150 kilometres west of Edmonton.

About ten people scoured the land on all-terrain vehicles, looking for anything that could lead to the whereabouts of St. Albert's Lyle and Marie McCann.

Among the searchers was the couple's 14-year-old great nephew.

"If I were in their position, I'd rather have people looking for me than sitting at home," said John McCann.

"I'd kind of rather feel positive about it - that we'll find them - that they'll walk up to us or something."

Up until recently police have asked the family to hold off doing its own pursuit.

The couple's son Bret says while he still has faith in authorities, he can no longer tolerate staying idle.

"They're aware we're doing this but basically they're not leading us or directing us where to search or anything like that. This is all initiated by our family and friends," he said from his home in St. Albert.

The missing couple's nephew tells CTV while it feels good to be doing something, it's disheartening coming up empty handed.

"I was really optimistic that they were sitting some place waiting for us," said Murray McCann.

"Now they are not sitting and waiting for us, so we have to find them and bring them home."

The civilian search is being conducted in the area where the McCann's burned-out motorhome and S.U.V. were found, on July 5th and July 16th, respectively.

Family members say they hope to continue their efforts for as many days as possible before the snow hits.

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l.../EDM_Mccann_100925/20100925/?hub=EdmontonHome
 
  • #228
Family and friends have launched their own search for an Alberta couple missing since early July.

Lyle McCann, 78, and his wife, Marie, 77, left St. Albert, Alta., on July 3 bound for British Columbia. They were last seen that day at a gas station in the city just west of Edmonton.

Their son Bret McCann said more than a dozen friends and family members spent Saturday combing an area east of Edson for any sign of the couple.

"I mean, we still have our full faith in the police. But some of [the family], they just can't stand waiting around, so they felt they had to do something," he said.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2010/09/25/edm-mccann-search.html#ixzz10aow4GGD
 
  • #229
ImageShrinker


Three Generations of family search for clues on Saturday, about what happened to Lyle and Marie McCann.


Family and close friends of Lyle and Marie McCann have begun their own ground search in hopes of finding the missing couple.

The group has been searching on foot and by ATV along cutlines and bush where the McCann's burnt out SUV was located.

RCMP conducted their own search of the area last weekend

Bret said RCMP were aware of the search but had not recommended it. He said his uncle and cousins took it upon themselves to search public lands on their quads

Read more: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/McCanns+launch+their+search/3581329/story.html#ixzz10kmpC6tS​

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...ssing_mccann_100927/20100927/?hub=CalgaryHome
 
  • #230
Fisherman recalls seeing what may have been the McCanns' motorhome

An Alberta fisherman tells CTV News he may have seen Lyle and Marie McCanns' motorhome being driven erratically by two men around the same time the couple disappeared.

The fisherman, who wished to remain nameless, says he was out fishing at Chip Lake Park in early July when he saw a motorhome back into some trees at the campsite.

"[The] motorhome drove in and backed right in to the trees. Never even got out and looked, you know for damage for your motorhome. It was really odd, if you backed into some trees you would get out to take a look and see how much damage you did," the man said.

He says he got a look at the people driving the motorhome.

"One guy got out, he had on a checkered vest, a safety vest...the other guy was a big guy, he got back in and never saw him after."

The fisherman tells CTV News following that day he was watching the news when a story of the couple's disappearance appeared on screen. In the story, the man says an image of the couple's motorhome was shown.

"That's the motorhome that backed into the trees at Chip Lake Park. And I'm sure it was."

To read more:

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100928/edm_mccann_100928/20100928?hub=EdmontonHome

Ok, so why has it taken almost 3 months for this man to come forward and say he saw the motorhome?
 
  • #231
Ok, so why has it taken almost 3 months for this man to come forward and say he saw the motorhome?

I read the article and took it that CTV news had just learned of this man. I also took it that the police already had the info as police had already been to the lake. Or, that's how I hope it was/is.
 
  • #232
nettie_82 said:
Fisherman recalls seeing what may have been the McCanns' motorhome

An Alberta fisherman tells CTV News he may have seen Lyle and Marie McCanns' motorhome being driven erratically by two men around the same time the couple disappeared.

The fisherman, who wished to remain nameless, says he was out fishing at Chip Lake Park in early July when he saw a motorhome back into some trees at the campsite.

"[The] motorhome drove in and backed right in to the trees. Never even got out and looked, you know for damage for your motorhome. It was really odd, if you backed into some trees you would get out to take a look and see how much damage you did," the man said.

He says he got a look at the people driving the motorhome.

"One guy got out, he had on a checkered vest, a safety vest...the other guy was a big guy, he got back in and never saw him after."

The fisherman tells CTV News following that day he was watching the news when a story of the couple's disappearance appeared on screen. In the story, the man says an image of the couple's motorhome was shown.

"That's the motorhome that backed into the trees at Chip Lake Park. And I'm sure it was."

To read more:

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100928/edm_mccann_100928/20100928?hub=EdmontonHome

Ok, so why has it taken almost 3 months for this man to come forward and say he saw the motorhome?
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I wonder if this is what the fisherman means:

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...t&start=21&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&ndsp=21&tbs=isch:1

I found this:

http://alberta.ca/acn/201007/2873393F167A5-A938-0EEA-9FBB1BCBDDFF9154.html

Also wondering about highway cleanup crews, oilpatch work being done in that area, tow trucks that may have been hooking up a vehicle in the area, etc. It seems that just about anyone around there could have had a safety vest, so unless this one was very distinctive, it won't be all that helpful.

It does seem, however, that a roadside ruse is becoming a likely part of this disappearance.

Does anyone know if the RCMP are using professional trackers in the search? There are professional animal trackers at Chip Lake, and it has occurred to me that their skills might be useful.
 
  • #233
Pieces of trees taken into evidence in ongoing McCann case

Investigators have now pulled pieces of trees from a camping site at Chip Lake Park located north of Highway 16. The development comes after a local fisherman told CTV News he believed he saw Lyle and Marie McCann's motorhome being driven erratically by two men around the same time the couple disappeared.

The fisherman, who wished to remain nameless, says he was out fishing at Chip Lake Park in early July when he saw a motorhome back into some trees at the campsite.

"[The] motorhome drove in and backed right in to the trees. Never even got out and looked, you know for damage for your motorhome. It was really odd, if you backed into some trees you would get out to take a look and see how much damage you did," the man said.

He says he got a look at the people driving the motorhome.

"One guy got out, he had on a checkered vest, a safety vest...the other guy was a big guy, he got back in and never saw him after."

The fisherman tells CTV News following that day he was watching the news when a story of the couple's disappearance appeared on screen. In the story, the man says an image of the couple's motorhome was shown.

"That's the motorhome that backed into the trees at Chip Lake Park. And I'm sure it was."

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l.../edm_mccann_100929/20100929/?hub=EdmontonHome

According to this, the RCMP must not have known about this prior to CTV reporting? Why wouldn't he go directly to LE?
 
  • #234
If this is the trailer and this was in early July, there was no mention made of the car, it would have been mentioned if it was attached to the back.

What I'm thinking is that it WAS attached in the campsite they went to just before it was burned???

It would explain though where it had been in the earlier days.

Does anyone know if there's a park attendant at this site?

Also maybe someone can do us a map showing where Chip Lake is in comparison to the other areas of interest.
 
  • #235
nettie_82 said:
Pieces of trees taken into evidence in ongoing McCann case


http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l.../edm_mccann_100929/20100929/?hub=EdmontonHome

According to this, the RCMP must not have known about this prior to CTV reporting? Why wouldn't he go directly to LE?
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Nettie, I just wonder if this is old "news"? In otherwords, all of this took place a long time ago (removing trees etc.), and CTV have only just discovered the fisherman (or LE wants this selective information out there)?

IMO, the wording is very ambiguous in that article, and doesn't really give a clue as to when anything happened.

Thank-you for posting the articles. It is definitely news to those following the case.

Where are the McCann's? :(
 
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Also, maybe LE didn't know about this fisherman, and the recent search efforts uncovered this fisherman? Who knows, but, anyway you look at it, it's a good thing, I guess.
 
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McCanns launch own search

Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 06:00 am | By Ryan Tumilty | St. Albert Gazette

Bret McCann, the couple's son, said they have spent the past two weekends searching Crown lands in the areas around where both vehicles were found and plan to continue until the first snowfall.

“The police can't be everywhere and we are trying to help them by doing our own search,” he said. “We are trying to carefully go down every road and every place we think a vehicle might have gone through.”

He said the police are searching properties based on their investigation, but the family's search is more general.

“Where they are searching is based on their investigation. They are talking to people and following up on leads. We don't have the benefit of that information,” he said. “We can just put together sort of plausible scenarios about where the motorhome or the SUV might have been driven.”

He said they have photographed tire tracks and other indications that might be useful and forwarded them onto police.

http://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/20100929/SAG0801/309299969/mccanns-launch-own-search
 
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