Found Deceased Canada - Madison Scott, 20, Vanderhoof, BC, 27 May 2011

  • #861
That’s not an accident that’s manslaughter .
Prove that when one is dead. An accident means they didn't mean for someone to end up dead, no different than two guys fighting and one drops to the ground.
 
  • #862
That’s not an accident that’s manslaughter .
Yes, IMO I believe in the case of a legitimate accident it could be considered involuntary manslaughter if there is no intent. However Madison was found on private property miles away, many years after she went missing. It doesn't seem like an accident JMHO.
 
  • #863
He could have said yes, she could have said no, there could have been a push and shove match, maybe she fell, maybe she hit him and he hit her back. So many things can go wrong in a minute of time......Then what? Panic sets in and the next wrong thing is done...don't people think about this kind of thing?
But this isn't an accident. This is attempted sexual assault followed by physical assault, followed by failure to render aid, followed by abuse of a corpse.

Despite what defense attorneys would have you believe, it's not that easy to kill an adult human. Other than vehicular homicide, it's exceedingly rare for one human to accidentally kill another. A single hit in self defense against a smaller, weaker person ain't gonna do it. And if you legitimately accidentally shove someone and knock them unconscious, you call an ambulance. Nothing you're describing above is remotely excusable.
 
  • #864
locals have said that a couple showed up at the Black’s Home shortly after the disappearance and asked the old man (owner) if they could search the property. He told them no and said he would shoot (a gun) if anyone did.

A seperate matter - Heard that private bloodhounds (dogs) from Prince George were used to track her scent. The dogs stopped and “went off” at the fence of the Black property.

it took 12 years later for her body to be found on the Black Property. Some locals had well found suspicions (incuding very aggressive sexual advances on one local girl by one of the boys).

Something wrong with the justice system….
Let’s hope nobody else has been, or will be, hurt while those responsible are still free…
 
  • #865
Something does not make sense. If Les Black (father) went to the RCMP to tell them a body was found on the property, then why did the police use a search warrant to search the property? Surely he would have let them on the property voluntarily if this was the case and he was entirely innocent.
 
  • #866
Something does not make sense. If Les Black (father) went to the RCMP to tell them a body was found on the property, then why did the police use a search warrant to search the property? Surely he would have let them on the property voluntarily if this was the case and he was entirely innocent.
The most obvious reason is a search earrant gives them legally-solid permission to seize and remove certain types of things listed on the warrant: weapons, computers, jewelry, clothing, even vehicles if they're deemed suspicious. This means possessions of people other than the land-owner. They can also bring in forensic examiners to look for a crime scene, plus take photos/video.

A search warrant give police the right to search every inch of the property - inside and out. No one can claim they can't find a key to unlock a shed...with a search warrant police can break in.

IMO, a 'verbal agreement' of permission to search and seize might not stand up in court if crucial evidence were found. I expect police were not going to put any of this opportunity at risk: cross all their t's, dot all their i's for a potential trial.

JMO
 
  • #867
Something does not make sense. If Les Black (father) went to the RCMP to tell them a body was found on the property, then why did the police use a search warrant to search the property? Surely he would have let them on the property voluntarily if this was the case and he was entirely innocent.
He could have cleaned up any evidence prior to calling the police. It's just good planning to have a search warrant when a body has been found on a property.
 
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Murderers running free. Such Bullsh@t
 
  • #873
2 years without an indictment is insane to me. It's no coincidence she was found on a property tied to people who were at the party she disappeared from. I feel for her family.
Criminal and the system lets them run free. BS!!!!
 
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2 years without an indictment is insane to me. It's no coincidence she was found on a property tied to people who were at the party she disappeared from. I feel for her family.
I wonder if they can increase the reward? No way something wasn't said to someone after all this time.

It takes one person to talk to get something going. A higher reward might be hard to resist especially for someone with a conscience.
 
  • #876
Anytime RCMP….
 
  • #877
I hope that reminder of a reward $$ starts loosening some lips and someone talks!
Yeah - but, whoever did it isn't going to claim the reward by turning themselves in...

is there any reason to believe there are innocent others who witnessed something that could be a gotcha...?
 
  • #878
Possibly, I believe the answers are in the original case files interviews. Fro stated “blacks last to leave” the brothers left in separate vehicles.
Yeah - but, whoever did it isn't going to claim the reward by turning themselves in...

is there any reason to believe there are innocent others who witnessed something that could be a gotcha...?
 
  • #879
Yeah - but, whoever did it isn't going to claim the reward by turning themselves in...

is there any reason to believe there are innocent others who witnessed something that could be a gotcha...?
I just have a feeling there's an unspoken knowledge about who knows what from that area. It only takes an anonymous tip or one person to talk who has been keeping a secret a long time. JMO MOO
 
  • #880
I just have a feeling there's an unspoken knowledge about who knows what from that area. It only takes an anonymous tip or one person to talk who has been keeping a secret a long time. JMO MOO
Yes, one can hope. However, to be realistic, a trial couldn't proceed just based on someone's story. There'd need to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt and that means forensics, data, etc.
 

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