Found Deceased Canada - Norah, 11 & Romy Carpentier, 6, Quebec, 9 July 2020 *father died of suicide*

[Bodhi]

There have been several cases on Ws where after relatively minor car accidents, the driver inexplicably went missing. Trying to remember some of them so i can post those threads here, just in case there is some commonality between them.
The first one that comes to mind is Patricia M., can anyone easily recall the others to add to this one?
MT - MT - Patricia Meehan, 37, Circle, 20 April 1989

Maura Murray.

 

[Bodhi]

I fear the motive will never really be known. This is a fairly compressive summary -

SQ reveals how the Carpentier family's deaths played out | Montreal Gazette
“Up until he crashed his car with his two daughters in it on the night of July 8, there was nothing to indicate Martin Carpentier posed a danger to his family, police said Wednesday.

He was travelling on the route he was expected to be taking after going out for ice cream, along Highway 20 near St-Apollinaire, close to Quebec City. Forensic investigation of the scene indicates the crash was an accident, that Carpentier lost control of his vehicle and tried to regain it before smashing. A partially eaten ice cream cone was found left behind. Blood traces indicated at least one of the girls had been injured in the accident.

Police contacted the girls’ family to say there had been an accident and the victims were missing. Family members did not say they were worried Carpentier was trying to kidnap his girls, or would harm them, Sûreté du Québec chief inspector Guy Lapointe said. Carpentier was no longer with the girls’ mother, but was reportedly still on friendly terms with her. It was not until the next day that the SQ would issue an Amber Alert, indicating they feared for the safety of the children, Norah and Romy Carpentier, aged 11 and 6.

By that time, police now know, both the girls and the father were already dead.......

.....“For us, up until the moment of the accident, there was nothing that was premeditated or deliberate,” Lapointe said. “It seems the accident was a tipping point because it was as of then that the behaviour, that we can all, I think, qualify as abnormal, came into play.”

Witnesses spotted Carpentier crossing the highway, carrying one child in his arms, the other walking alongside him. It was the last time they were seen alive. Carpentier left behind one of his sandals in the car, and his cellphone. Records show his parents-in-law called him about an hour after the accident.

Within the next 12 hours, Carpentier walked 1.7 kilometres south into the forest with his daughters, breaking into a trailer. He took a shovel and a lighter.

About 750 metres further south “is where the irreparable happened,” Lapointe said. The two girls were killed with a blunt object. Carpentier made it another 2.5 kilometres further south, stealing a ladder from a resident’s property along the way, then took his life. Police would not say how he killed himself.

“What we know now today is that all these events … all occurred in a very small time frame,” Lapointe said. “On the morning of July 9 all the sad events had played out and all three were already dead.”....”

I'd read a brief mention of the shovel and lighter taken but not in the context of a timeline and such proximity to where the girls's were found. How horrible!

 

[Dana Skully]

What a horrible case. So unfortunate to see a father turn on his children like that.

 

[Bethan]

What a horrible case. So unfortunate to see a father turn on his children like that.

The only way I can make any sense of this terrible sequence of events is if the father had some sort of medical episode, that could explain the crash ( such as a cardiac dysrhythmia, causing a momentary blackout) & could also possibly explain his paranoid & destructive behaviour in the ensuing hours.

A cardiac dysrhythmia, low blood sugar or a seizure would not be detectable on autopsy, particularly when there was a delay finding his remains.

It is a terrible, awful tragedy all round. Just so sad.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

There have been several cases on Ws where after relatively minor car accidents, the driver inexplicably went missing. Trying to remember some of them so i can post those threads here, just in case there is some commonality between them.
The first one that comes to mind is Patricia M., can anyone easily recall the others to add to this one?
MT - MT - Patricia Meehan, 37, Circle, 20 April 1989

Shane Fell, but I don’t know if it was a minor accident.

 

[dotr]

Coroner's report into Quebec girls' deaths urges change in handling of disappearances - StAlbertToday.ca
''MONTREAL — A Quebec man who killed his daughters before taking his own life last July was troubled by an impending divorce and was in psychosis, a coroner's investigation into their deaths has concluded.''

''The coroner wrote that Carpentier had been separated from Amélie Lemieux, the girls' mother, since 2015. But even though he was hoping to remarry, he had not finalized the divorce out of fear of losing access to the children. He was particularly worried about Norah, as Lemieux had re-established contact with the girl's biological father.

"It was a highly anxiety-provoking situation for him, with a view to losing his children or the meaningful relationship he had with them," Régnière wrote.

According to his doctor, Carpentier had finally met a lawyer in June 2020 about getting divorced and on July 8, received a document to sign, which may have triggered what happened.

The evening of the crash, Carpentier insisted on taking the girls out for ice cream alone after spending the evening with family. The coroner pointed to several signs suggesting the accident was intentional and the failed attempt at death represented a "point of no return" for Carpentier.''

''They were killed with blows from a branch''

Oct 28 2021 rbbm.
Quebec coroner’s report into Carpentier girls’ deaths urges change in handling of disappearances - Montreal | Globalnews.ca
''A Quebec coroner who investigated the deaths of two young sisters killed by their father is recommending broader criteria for triggering Amber Alerts and the creation of a dedicated police unit to investigate children’s disappearances across the province.

Those are among several recommendations from coroner Sophie Régnière stemming from the killings last year of Romy and Norah Carpentier and the suicide of their father, Martin Carpentier.''

''It was not until 3 p.m. the next day, July 9, that an Amber Alert was broadcast.

In reports made public Thursday, the coroner concludes the girls’ deaths likely occurred on the afternoon of July 9, and their bodies were found on July 11 not far from each other.''

 

[dotr]

Feb 13 2023

Inquest begins into 2020 kidnapping and killing of two Quebec sisters by their father

A public inquest into the events surrounding the 2020 killing of two young Quebec girls by their father begins today.

www.cp24.com

''A public inquest into the events surrounding the 2020 killing of two young Quebec girls by their father begins today.

Quebec's public security minister ordered the inquest last year after an episode of the Radio-Canada investigative program "Enquete" alleged provincial police made errors in the search for the missing girls and presented new evidence that had not been part of a coroner's investigation into their deaths.

Police concluded that Martin Carpentier killed 11-year-old Norah and six-year-old Romy in the woods near St-Apollinaire, Que., southwest of Quebec City before taking his own life, but questions have swirled around the investigation and whether the tragedy could have been averted.

An October 2021 coroner's report found flaws in police's handling of the investigation and recommended changes to the process for triggering Amber Alerts, as well as the creation of a dedicated police unit to investigate children's disappearances across the province.

Deputy chief coroner Luc Malouin will preside over the inquest, which will take place at the Quebec City Courthouse.''

 

[dotr]

Coroner faults police response in case of two girls killed by father in 2020

Coroner Luc Malouin says Quebec provincial police erred in not quickly launching a ground search for Romy and Norah Carpentier.

torontosun.com

Oct 24, 2023