Found Deceased Canada - Owen Rooney, 24, Grand Forks, BC, 14 Aug 2010

[dotr]

Also, from 2 days ago,includes video of family,I am impressed with how these lovely ladies are working together so diligently to find Owen!

http://www.globallethbridge.com/Rooney+family+comes+Calgary+search+Owen/4063883/story.html

 

[Sillybilly]

Hinky meter ahummin' :

The Nordlys phone number shown on that one item is an unpublished number in Richmond BC (odd for a business to be unpublished). I have located another phone number for them that is affiliated with the name AS:

http://www.profilecanada.com/companydetail.cfm?company=689488_Nordlys_Richmond_BC

The name AS in Vancouver:

http://ca.linkedin.com/in/astruna

AS appears to be associated with this "religious travel association" andon this web page he claims to be out of Summerside, PE, Canada (presumably PEI?):

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...tivity+"ales+struna"&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

and on this page claims he is out of Gulfport, FL

Same AS on FB page shows another phone # in area code 902 which whitepages shows as Summerside, Nova Scotia (you might have to log into FB to view):

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/search.php?q=Ales Struna&init=quick&tas=0.5274984516561407

The 902 number brings up this page:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ontact/+902-303-1957&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

The names Ales S and Sheri R are associated with David A:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c..."++"sheri+rosenthal"&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca


Sorry to sound cynical, but ... unconditional love, cambodia, miracles, blessings ... etc

 

[Sillybilly]

FB page for capiz product:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Capiz...ons/173751905998361?v=info#info_edit_sections

 

[Sillybilly]

Nordlys associate JA (Richmond, also formerly/currently? of Kelowna, BC) is affiliated with the Unification Church (aka the Moonies)

 

[Sillybilly]

Bump for Owen !!

 

[nao]

Another person missing from Christina Lake BC. Population 1500 permanent residents. People always assume everyone would know everyone in small communities like this, but i do not find it to be true.

http://thenelsondaily.com/news/general/police-rcmp-ask-assistance-locate-missing-person-9116

Shawn McDonald missing from Christina Lake, car, personal posessions left behind.

 

[Sillybilly]

Florida: door to door sales is an emerging trend of trafficking young people

read full article at:
http://www.examiner.com/human-right...ging-through-door-to-door-sales#ixzz1Bi3IzMPj

 

[Sillybilly]

Shawn McDonald missing from Christina Lake, car, personal posessions left behind.

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Don't know if we have a thread for Shawn yet, but will post this here in the meantime:

from:
http://www.iammissing.ca/Missing-M-1.html

Shawn was last seen at Time and Place Pub in Christina Lake, BC on January 1, 2011. He was reported missing two days later.

 

[Sillybilly]

Sorry .. too late to edit the above link on the Florida door-to-door sales. It didn't work because it was an RSS feed. This one should be okay:

http://www.examiner.com/human-right...ng-trends-emerging-through-door-to-door-sales

 

[summer_breeze]

http://www.inews880.com/Channels/Reg/LocalNews/story.aspx?ID=1354634

8:45am
Matthew Bisson
1/30/2011

The search for a missing Australian man will bring family members to Edmonton Sunday. We told you months ago about Owen Rooney, who disappeared after being treated for head injuries in a B.C. hospital back in August.

 

[dotr]

Nothing really new, but it is nice to see this is still in the news today, I really hope Owen's family get some answers soon.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011/01/30/17092446.html
Their search brings them to Edmonton this week.

"We've left our businesses (in Australia) and have been looking for him in Canada ever since," said mother Sharron Rooney, who has taken up temporary residence in B.C.

"We're following up all the leads we can and actively searching. We just don't want him to get lost here. If he doesn't know who he is he could very easily settle into a lifestyle and not come out of it."

 

[lisser]

The family's facebook page is very active.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=153559174657446&v=wall

His family has his medical records now.

 

[Sillybilly]

The family's facebook page is very active.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=153559174657446&v=wall

His family has his medical records now.

In a Tuesday Feb 1 FB post by Jason R, he claims that Owen was in Edmonton Capilano area selling Jason's boss a shell sun catcher.

This brings me back to the company those widgets are associated with. One of the owners is JA who is a long-time Moonie. For an extensive read on one Canadian family's rescue and deprogramming of their son/brother (with specific references to JA) read the following online book. I warn you, it's about a 1/2 hour read, but has lots of info on how these groups operate:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&source=www.google.ca

If you want the version with pics, you have to click on the link at the top of the page that takes you to the pdf version. It bogged my computer down but is worth the perseverence.

Although Ron Tassie's rescue was in 1981, Art Tassie's article was last year. I hope Owen's family can be in contact with some of the folks in that article who may be able to help in their search through the maize of Moonie madness. The group may have ceased activity due to weather, but maybe the Tassies or the Bowermans, or even the PI or LE who were involved at the time would know the current address the group uses in Alberta. It's also possible they have moved back into BC to get away from the more severe Alberta weather.

I know the Rooney's don't have a ton of money to be chasing shadows, but in this case, it seems the most concrete bits of information they have to go on are:

A) Owen reportedly being seen on numerous occasions selling dreamcatchers/suncatchers door-to-door
B) The dreamcatchers being linked back to a specific company
C) the co-owner of that specific company having an extensive affiliation with the Unification Church aka Moonies
D) The Moonies are known to actively sell widgets door-to-door

Just a thought, but given JA's connection to Kelowna, i have to wonder if Owen had some prior acquaintance with him and called him to ask for his help when he was at the hospital in Grand Forks.

 

[summer_breeze]

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...ooney_search_110205/20110205/?hub=CalgaryHome

Updated: Sat Feb. 05 2011 14:29:41
ctvcalgary.ca

An Australian family's search for their loved one is about to come to an end.

 

[Karina]

I have just joined this forum as I've been working on trying to find Owen Rooney myself. I've independently come to the same conclusions as others on this forum, that he is with the Moonies (unification church). The links are too clear in my opinion: the dreamcatchers he has been reported as selling come from a particular company (already mentioned in this forum). The owner of that company is very clearly a Moonie.

Initially I thought that amnesia could be an explanation for his bizarre disappearance, but I no longer believe this to be the case.

There are other things that puzzle me. Why has Owen's ex-gf being pretty unco-operative in terms of giving information? Does anyone know who this girl is? It was allegedly Owen's belief that this girl was on a farm that led to Owen being bashed up. Is this girl in the Moonies? How did their relationship end? Is this girl under the control of the Moonies? Did the fact that Owen going to the alleged farm to retrieve his his ex-gf, is that because Owen thought the Moonies had her under their control and he thought that he was going to rescue her?

Who are all the many friends that Owen has in Kelowna? Has anyone checked them out and whether any of them have links to the Moonies? What about the restuarant Owen workd in in Kelowna - do any of the workers there have associations with the Moonies?

The research I have read says that the effect of the Magic Mushrooms Owen is alleged to have taken at Shambahlah only last for up to 10 hours. Is my understanding correct that he spent 3 days in the medical tent at Shambahlah? If so, why did he spend so long in the tent? The psychotic effects of the mushrooms would have long worn off. What sorts of things was Owen saying in that medical tent that others discounted as psychotic ramblings? Maybe there was some truth in them. Maybe they weren't psychotic ramblings, maybe they were actually true and realistic fears he had. I mean he was bashed senseless not long after wasn't he. So, what was he saying to these medical people?

Someone who has recently been in a drug-induced state like Owen was reported to be in, would certainly be an easy target for brain-washing. The disconnection with self that is brought about by drugs is a similar state to the dissociative disconnect that is needed to brainwash someone. Interestingly trauma, like the bashing that Owen received, also results in the same dissociative disconnect that would enable brainwashing to occur more easily.

When I was around Owen's age I attended a couple of services of a church while I was on holidays in Queensland, Australia. The people were exceptionally lovely and within a day or two I'd been invited to stay at one of their houses for as long as I wanted, and who wouldn't say no to an offer of free accomodation - I certainly wasn't going to. But I pretty soon freaked out as they had me on the go from the crack of dawn to late at night and I was so sleep deprived I could hardly think. It was hard for me to get out of there, the emotional blackmail was very heavy, but I almost ran from the place and drove 26 hours non-stop across 3 states to get back to the safety of home - I was absolutely terrified. And the thing was, I'd had training about cults and how to recognize them, which is probably what saved me - I twigged that they were a cult and had all the classic characteristics of a cult. If I'd not have that specialized training, maybe I too could have ended up like Owen. So yes, these things do happen. Travellers without connections and young people make very easy targets for cults.

So where to next if Owen is within the Moonie cult. What is their typical induction programme? How soon before they're allowed back onto facebook? (I notice that there are a lot of Moonies with facebook accounts and links to each other via facebook). What are the levels within the Moonie cult? What would be ahead for him? I figure they'll be trying to marry him off, get the girl pregnant to him ASAP as that way they'll have a permanent and lifelong hold on him.

Karina.

 

[dotr]

Welcome Karina! Very glad you decided to join us here , excellent post!
Good point about Owen possibly being hooked up with a gf.Maybe it would be worthwhile to pay closer attention to anyone fitting OR's description in the company of an Asian female, as I understand that they encourage biracial pairings..Perhaps a poster in a Korean restaurant or food store might help.

 

[Sillybilly]

Yes, WELCOME KARINA !! Seems you've been doing your homework

Interesting comment about Owen's "paranoia". Sometimes what others perceive as paranoia is simply a normal reaction to a very abnormal situation. Having said that, there is that pic of Owen taken in Nelson with the fellow standing beside the Harley. Owen appears very relaxed and happy. Don't know that we ever found out who drove Owen to Christina Lake, but maybe that Nelson acquaintance might know.

The address that picture is taken at is 601 Front St, Nelson, BC. Streetview indicates it is not a huge building, but houses quite a few businesses, among them Narcotics Anonymous, clothing, a registered massage therapist, mental health, art therapy, the Echankar (Eckankar?) Church:

http://www.google.ca/search?q=+"601...d=ivns&ei=TlhUTemWIIuasAPthKG7BQ&start=0&sa=N

I wonder if Echankar might do door-to-door sales of the Nordlys supplied dreamcathers.

 

[maxfactor]

Yes, WELCOME KARINA !! Seems you've been doing your homework

Interesting comment about Owen's "paranoia". Sometimes what others perceive as paranoia is simply a normal reaction to a very abnormal situation. Having said that, there is that pic of Owen taken in Nelson with the fellow standing beside the Harley. Owen appears very relaxed and happy. Don't know that we ever found out who drove Owen to Christina Lake, but maybe that Nelson acquaintance might know.

The address that picture is taken at is 601 Front St, Nelson, BC. Streetview indicates it is not a huge building, but houses quite a few businesses, among them Narcotics Anonymous, clothing, a registered massage therapist, mental health, art therapy, the Echankar (Eckankar?) Church:

http://www.google.ca/search?q=+"601...d=ivns&ei=TlhUTemWIIuasAPthKG7BQ&start=0&sa=N

I wonder if Echankar might do door-to-door sales of the Nordlys supplied dreamcathers.

That's a good find SB, I wonder if anyone has checked this out. Here's the website for the church and it seems kinda odd. Quite a coincidence that the picture was taken in front of that building.
http://www.eckankar.org/
http://www.eckankar-bc.ca/default.cfm

 

[dotr]

OT, sorry - I was just reminded of a case where a woman seemed to have an injury after a car accident, then wondered off and reported to be seen much later, in coffee shops along the highway and in the city - as a homeless person.
MT MT - Patty Meehan, 37, Circle, 20 April 1989 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Sillybilly]

IIRC, Nordlys distanced themselves from the actual selling of their widgets (something along the lines of "we don't sell them directly").

The following comment made by Ann of Summerland on Nov 29 over at the Find Owen Rooney blog would seem to indicate that there is no middle man in the sale of these items .. Nordlys receives the direct revenue from door-to-door sales:

from: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&source=www.google.ca

... I had no cash so paid him by cheque made out to the company they were dealing through - Nordlys Canada ...