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Owen with a little longer hair
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Found Deceased Canada - Owen Rooney, 24, Grand Forks, BC, 14 Aug 2010
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Owen with a little longer hair
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I don't really have much to add, other than to say that I was travelling on BC Ferries over the weekend and saw Owen's posters on 2 of the ships. I'm glad his photo and info are still very much out there, and hope he is found soon.
I'm concerned to find today that there are 3 separate Help Find Owen Rooney facebook pages, 2 of which have no Rooney family members on. On one of these pages a report was put in on the 15th February at Fort Saint John of a sighting of Owen at the swimming pool there. Now the interesting thing is, that on the same facebook group, back on 27th November, another possible sighting of Owen and report was made. The person making that report back in November said that the man he met, with an Australian accent, and who he believes to be Owen is travelling with a group of 7 friends and that they were going to go to PG (presumably Prince George) then Fort Saint John. The concerning thing is this man put in the report about Owen five minutes after the salesman left his house, but it looks like it was not acted on immediately by the authorities.
Where would a tourist go if wanting to tour Canada, from Fort Saint John? Would they be heading up to Alaska? or??
I've emailed Owen's mother re this other facebook page, but it is interesting that the plan that they had in place in November, is something they stuck with for 3 months, so it sounds like they have some very clearly defined travel plans.
Is there any reason they might have chosen to go to Fort Saint John at this time of year?
Where would a tourist go if wanting to tour Canada, from Fort Saint John? Would they be heading up to Alaska? or??
I've emailed Owen's mother re this other facebook page, but it is interesting that the plan that they had in place in November, is something they stuck with for 3 months, so it sounds like they have some very clearly defined travel plans.
Is there any reason they might have chosen to go to Fort Saint John at this time of year?
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Do we know which town/city the Nov 27th sighting was in?
Reason I'm asking is we have Len Whitney (Edmonton?? Red Deer??) reporting that in Sept/Oct, Owen was supposedly heading to a trucking job in Lac La Biche, AB; then Nov 27 the above report that he was going from Prince George, BC to Fort McMurray, AB; then February he is reported again in Fort McMurray. That's 1300+ miles of back-tracking (which doesn't make a lot of sense with the cost of gas these days).
If the group are "tourists", they sure need a guide. LOL ... can't quite see tourists heading to Fort McMurray in the dead of winter. HOWEVER, I just had a major thought ... if they are selling widgets to make money, they could be headed for pipeline / oilsands jobs in Fort McMurray ... really big $$ to be made in a short period of time. Lots of young guys get together the money for the specialized clothing (including, yes indeedy ... $300 to $400 electric boots), tough it out as long as they can, and get themselves $20,000 or $30,000 within a few month. Somebody could get rich on those kids, even if only half their earnings went to la Church, huh?
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=...peline&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&fp=87c8eca960d3be59
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The pipeline jobs I refer to above are part of the Mackenzie Gas Project, which is a $7 billion mega-project that would bring natural gas via pipelines from the Beaufort Sea down to Fort McMurray. I'm not 100% sure on the project status as it relates to agreements with the Inuit and First Nations groups, but I do know young people from BC who have recently gone to Fort McMurray to make big money.
I'd like the money too, but as it is windy and cold in BC today, even setting some cold records, i'll settle for a pair of those stylin' electric boots
I'd like the money too, but as it is windy and cold in BC today, even setting some cold records, i'll settle for a pair of those stylin' electric boots
I've just written the following document for the family, with suggested ways people can gain more information about anyone they meet selling dreamcatchers, that they think might be Owen. I'd appreciate any further ideas on it, amendments etc. I basically wrote it as a launching pad document, that might be useful for them to utilize in their media campaigns. The text I've put below:-
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"If you suspect that you have just met Owen, here are some ideas of Ways to Communicate with Owen to gain more concrete information about him:-
Hi, my name is ..., what's your name?
You have a strong accent, where are you from?
If he says Australia, ask where abouts in Australia?
How long are you in Canada for?
Where are you off to next?
The snow's been bad this year. How are you managing to travel around? Car, public buses, own bus, caravan, motorhome, trailer-park, caravan park, shelter, backpackers, etc etc.
Find out where he's staying while in town
Ask if it's ok to take a photo of him as he's so handsome or something (then forward this to his family). A front-on shot is best.
Ascertain how comfortable or uncomfortable the person he is with is about him giving out this information.
Ask him if he's been reading the newspapers or watching television about a missing young Australian called Owen Rooney?
Give him the brochure on how to reach the Rooney family in Canada.
If the young man thinks he might be Owen, but can't recollect, ask him if he has any tattoos and if he says he does, Owen has two tattoos.
Ask if he'd like to ring his family from your phone (if your willing). I'm sure the family would be more than happy to accept a reverse charges phone call if needed, or to reimburse you for the phone call.
If he doesn't remember his family, let him know he has a loving family that he was close to and they're all missing him and searching for him daily.
If you don't think he's going to be receptive about giving out information about where he's staying etc., alternatively you could try asking the following:-
1. Say that you have a friend that would probably buy some dreamcatchers off him as he/she loves that sort of stuff and
(A) does he have a mobile phone number that he/she can ring him on to arrange to buy them off of him.
OR,
(B) If he doesn't have a mobile phone, ask if he can call back to your house the next day at a particular time, or where he will be the following day if your friend wants to catch up with him. (Then notify the family and the local RCMP as well as Grand Prairie RCMP of when and where this will be).
Try asking Owen where he's headed to next, and via which route. Some of the reports about Owen have said that Owen is trying to save to go to Australia. You could let him know that he doesn't have to worry about saving the money, as if he contacts his family, they'll happily arrange for the ticket back home for him at their expense.
This is just a document to launch some ideas of ways for people to easily elicit information that is more concrete from the man people think is Owen, so the sightings can be verified.
Thanks for all your help."
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Well that's it folks, I'd appreciate your comments on it.
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"If you suspect that you have just met Owen, here are some ideas of Ways to Communicate with Owen to gain more concrete information about him:-
Hi, my name is ..., what's your name?
You have a strong accent, where are you from?
If he says Australia, ask where abouts in Australia?
How long are you in Canada for?
Where are you off to next?
The snow's been bad this year. How are you managing to travel around? Car, public buses, own bus, caravan, motorhome, trailer-park, caravan park, shelter, backpackers, etc etc.
Find out where he's staying while in town
Ask if it's ok to take a photo of him as he's so handsome or something (then forward this to his family). A front-on shot is best.
Ascertain how comfortable or uncomfortable the person he is with is about him giving out this information.
Ask him if he's been reading the newspapers or watching television about a missing young Australian called Owen Rooney?
Give him the brochure on how to reach the Rooney family in Canada.
If the young man thinks he might be Owen, but can't recollect, ask him if he has any tattoos and if he says he does, Owen has two tattoos.
Ask if he'd like to ring his family from your phone (if your willing). I'm sure the family would be more than happy to accept a reverse charges phone call if needed, or to reimburse you for the phone call.
If he doesn't remember his family, let him know he has a loving family that he was close to and they're all missing him and searching for him daily.
If you don't think he's going to be receptive about giving out information about where he's staying etc., alternatively you could try asking the following:-
1. Say that you have a friend that would probably buy some dreamcatchers off him as he/she loves that sort of stuff and
(A) does he have a mobile phone number that he/she can ring him on to arrange to buy them off of him.
OR,
(B) If he doesn't have a mobile phone, ask if he can call back to your house the next day at a particular time, or where he will be the following day if your friend wants to catch up with him. (Then notify the family and the local RCMP as well as Grand Prairie RCMP of when and where this will be).
Try asking Owen where he's headed to next, and via which route. Some of the reports about Owen have said that Owen is trying to save to go to Australia. You could let him know that he doesn't have to worry about saving the money, as if he contacts his family, they'll happily arrange for the ticket back home for him at their expense.
This is just a document to launch some ideas of ways for people to easily elicit information that is more concrete from the man people think is Owen, so the sightings can be verified.
Thanks for all your help."
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Well that's it folks, I'd appreciate your comments on it.
He could be just going to Fort McMurray to sell the dream catchers. There is obviously a lot of money in the area, so they might just be wanting to cash in on this. He could be going for a job there, but I tend to think he'll probably be sticking to what he's been doing consistently.
I noticed that backtracking with mileage too, that's a lot of wasted petrol and they probably have a limited income. Still, they took many months to do it. But Fort McMurray is in line with other places where he has been sighted, ie. Lac La Biche, Red Deer etc..
The thing is he said he was going to Fort Saint John and 3 months later he was seen there, so that's a good thing. The same person is now saying they are headed to Fort McMurray. I think Fort McMurray needs to be blitzed by the media, internet, in every way possible, to get the word out before he gets there.
I'm disappointed in that the person who had the last sighting of Owen, rang the RCMP within 5 minutes of his leaving, but they still didn't find him. Does the RCMP tend to act on sightings like this quickly? Really they need to give an immediate response, as he tends to move that quickly. Hopefully if people ask even some of the questions from the document above, it will make it easier to track him down.
I noticed that backtracking with mileage too, that's a lot of wasted petrol and they probably have a limited income. Still, they took many months to do it. But Fort McMurray is in line with other places where he has been sighted, ie. Lac La Biche, Red Deer etc..
The thing is he said he was going to Fort Saint John and 3 months later he was seen there, so that's a good thing. The same person is now saying they are headed to Fort McMurray. I think Fort McMurray needs to be blitzed by the media, internet, in every way possible, to get the word out before he gets there.
I'm disappointed in that the person who had the last sighting of Owen, rang the RCMP within 5 minutes of his leaving, but they still didn't find him. Does the RCMP tend to act on sightings like this quickly? Really they need to give an immediate response, as he tends to move that quickly. Hopefully if people ask even some of the questions from the document above, it will make it easier to track him down.
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
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Family still searching
After six long months, Owen Rooney's family is facing the difficult decision of how long they should keep searching for their missing son and brother.
The family left Milton for Canada after Owen went missing from Grand Forks hospital on August 14 last year, and have remained there since, refusing to give up hope.
Yet, despite numerous reported sightings across Canada, they have failed to turn up any solid leave.
More: http://www.ulladullatimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/family-still-searching/2085119.aspx
After six long months, Owen Rooney's family is facing the difficult decision of how long they should keep searching for their missing son and brother.
The family left Milton for Canada after Owen went missing from Grand Forks hospital on August 14 last year, and have remained there since, refusing to give up hope.
Yet, despite numerous reported sightings across Canada, they have failed to turn up any solid leave.
More: http://www.ulladullatimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/family-still-searching/2085119.aspx
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
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Family still searching
After six long months, Owen Rooney's family is facing the difficult decision of how long they should keep searching for their missing son and brother.
The family left Milton for Canada after Owen went missing from Grand Forks hospital on August 14 last year, and have remained there since, refusing to give up hope.
Yet, despite numerous reported sightings across Canada, they have failed to turn up any solid leave.
More: http://www.ulladullatimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/family-still-searching/2085119.aspx
After six long months, Owen Rooney's family is facing the difficult decision of how long they should keep searching for their missing son and brother.
The family left Milton for Canada after Owen went missing from Grand Forks hospital on August 14 last year, and have remained there since, refusing to give up hope.
Yet, despite numerous reported sightings across Canada, they have failed to turn up any solid leave.
More: http://www.ulladullatimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/family-still-searching/2085119.aspx
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
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Owen Rooney still missing
More than six months have passed since the disappearance of Owen Kiernan Rooney and police and Rooneys family are no closer to finding the missing Australian man.
More: http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/116751124.html
More than six months have passed since the disappearance of Owen Kiernan Rooney and police and Rooneys family are no closer to finding the missing Australian man.
More: http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/116751124.html
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
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Owen Rooney still missing
More than six months have passed since the disappearance of Owen Kiernan Rooney and police and Rooney’s family are no closer to finding the missing Australian man.
More: http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/116751124.html
More than six months have passed since the disappearance of Owen Kiernan Rooney and police and Rooney’s family are no closer to finding the missing Australian man.
More: http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/116751124.html
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Older link concerning Mariam Makhniashvili and the religious leader who, some feel lured young adults away from family. I just noticed the reference to Australia and thought some info may be of use here.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2009/09/30/mariam-makhniashvili.html
Vakhtang Makhniashvili said he first heard about a Georgian evangelical leader with links to Toronto on an internet forum. Georgians who live in Toronto were discussing it.
"First when I heard about him, I heard he was like, kind of [a] monster who would lure people and they would disappear without any trace," he said.
Makhniashvili says he passed the information to Toronto police.
Reports in the Georgian media recounted how a group of women left for Canada back in the mid-1990s with Rezo Bakradze, who was a university professor and head of a religious sect.
Roman Kutsia said he hasn't seen his daughter Natalia in 15 years. She was part of the group who left Georgia in 1994 to follow Bakradze — a man described as charismatic and highly intelligent.
"This man has enchanted our children. They all live in illusions. He forbids them to contact us. He's like an idol for them," said Kutsia, speaking through an interpreter during an interview with CBC News in Tblisi. Natalia Kutsia was one of the 35 students who left with Bakradze and lost touch with their families.
Some of the followers moved to Australia — others to Toronto.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2009/09/30/mariam-makhniashvili.html
Vakhtang Makhniashvili said he first heard about a Georgian evangelical leader with links to Toronto on an internet forum. Georgians who live in Toronto were discussing it.
"First when I heard about him, I heard he was like, kind of [a] monster who would lure people and they would disappear without any trace," he said.
Makhniashvili says he passed the information to Toronto police.
Reports in the Georgian media recounted how a group of women left for Canada back in the mid-1990s with Rezo Bakradze, who was a university professor and head of a religious sect.
Roman Kutsia said he hasn't seen his daughter Natalia in 15 years. She was part of the group who left Georgia in 1994 to follow Bakradze — a man described as charismatic and highly intelligent.
"This man has enchanted our children. They all live in illusions. He forbids them to contact us. He's like an idol for them," said Kutsia, speaking through an interpreter during an interview with CBC News in Tblisi. Natalia Kutsia was one of the 35 students who left with Bakradze and lost touch with their families.
Some of the followers moved to Australia — others to Toronto.
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Article from 2/23: http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/116751124.html
So glad LE seems so passionate about this case. It also says that they've determined that at least one of the dreamcatcher selling sightings was not Owen... hmm...
So glad LE seems so passionate about this case. It also says that they've determined that at least one of the dreamcatcher selling sightings was not Owen... hmm...
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How I wish Owen's story could have a happy ending like this one; which proofs that sometimes people do walk out of their lives for no apparent reason.
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full story: http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3000366
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The Fifth Estate episode concerning Owen, will be on March 11, 9pm, friday on CBC and available online after that date, as indicated on OR facebook page.
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Thanks dotr, I had been looking for the date
From "Find Owen Rooney" site:
http://www.find-owen.com/
For the "Preview", see my posts #175 & #176 (above)
From "Find Owen Rooney" site:
Posted by Rooney Family at 9:24 PM - Monday, February 28, 2011
Watch The Fifth Estate on CBC TV on March 11th
We have recently been contacted by CBC TV's The Fifth Estate . They have documented Owen's story and our journey in looking for him. It airs on CBC Friday March 11th at 9pm. It will give you all a good picture of our journey so far and we share some unanswered questions that someone can hopefully help us with. Please take the time to watch, or if not you can find it after Friday at www.cbc.ca/fifth
Thanks for all your love and support.
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Watch The Fifth Estate on CBC TV on March 11th
We have recently been contacted by CBC TV's The Fifth Estate . They have documented Owen's story and our journey in looking for him. It airs on CBC Friday March 11th at 9pm. It will give you all a good picture of our journey so far and we share some unanswered questions that someone can hopefully help us with. Please take the time to watch, or if not you can find it after Friday at www.cbc.ca/fifth
Thanks for all your love and support.
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For the "Preview", see my posts #175 & #176 (above)
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From "Find Owen Rooney" site:
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Preview of upcoming documentary re Owen Rooney -- at the very end of link CBC's Fifth Estate (below) -- around the 41:00 mark
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2010-2011/thedevilyouknow/
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Posted by Rooney Family at 9:24 PM - Monday, February 28, 2011
Watch The Fifth Estate on CBC TV on March 11th
We have recently been contacted by CBC TV's The Fifth Estate . They have documented Owen's story and our journey in looking for him. It airs on CBC Friday March 11th at 9pm. It will give you all a good picture of our journey so far and we share some unanswered questions that someone can hopefully help us with. Please take the time to watch, or if not you can find it after Friday at www.cbc.ca/fifth
Thanks for all your love and support.
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Watch The Fifth Estate on CBC TV on March 11th
We have recently been contacted by CBC TV's The Fifth Estate . They have documented Owen's story and our journey in looking for him. It airs on CBC Friday March 11th at 9pm. It will give you all a good picture of our journey so far and we share some unanswered questions that someone can hopefully help us with. Please take the time to watch, or if not you can find it after Friday at www.cbc.ca/fifth
Thanks for all your love and support.
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Preview of upcoming documentary re Owen Rooney -- at the very end of link CBC's Fifth Estate (below) -- around the 41:00 mark
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2010-2011/thedevilyouknow/
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OT ... Ira Preston Cook, 13, missing from Kamsack, Saskatchewan, March 5 2011
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This is an excellent article in today's paper. It includes links to maps of Owen's movements before his disappearance.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8221333/missing-aussie-may-not-know-who-he-is
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8221333/missing-aussie-may-not-know-who-he-is
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