Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #2 *Arrest*

[melbot1000]

So, in order for me to potentially do this walk-through I need a clarification. I looked through all the information and I think I'm correct in thinking that her husband was the last known person who saw her at approx. 12:30am Nov.26th. At that point he is gone to bed and sleeping. So, Shannon was either forcibly taken from her residence without waking her husband (unlikely) or she left with her keys and wallet, no cellphone, by herself.

Please correct me if I am wrong, I need a confirmed approx time/method of exit.

 

[dotr]

So, in order for me to potentially do this walk-through I need a clarification. I looked through all the information and I think I'm correct in thinking that her husband was the last known person who saw her at approx. 12:30am Nov.26th. At that point he is gone to bed and sleeping. So, Shannon was either forcibly taken from her residence without waking her husband (unlikely) or she left with her keys and wallet, no cellphone, by herself.

Please correct me if I am wrong, I need a confirmed approx time/method of exit.

Approx 12.30 am was last time S was seen at her home shared with JB.
No info. beyond that is known/confirmed or released, iirc. moo.

 

[dotr]

Calgary, recent sex assault report plus safety tips reminder for everyone, fwiw

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/12...eged-sex-assault-near-nw-calgary-lrt-station/

"Calgary police are looking for the public’s help in identifying a suspect in an alleged sex assault near a northwest LRT station on Boxing Day.

According to police, a woman was leaving the Brentwood LRT station around 6:45 p.m. Friday and she had walked a short distance toward Brentwood Rd. NW when she noticed a man standing behind her.

The suspect then grabbed the woman from behind and dragged her to a nearby alley, police said".


<<snip>>

"Police are offering the following safety tips to all Calgarians to protect themselves:
&#8226; Be aware of your surroundings.
&#8226; Try to stay in well-lit, well-populated areas whenever possible.
&#8226; Minimize using distracting technology like music players and cell phone.
&#8226; Make sure whenever possible others are aware of your route and your expected arrival time.
&#8226; Develop a safety plan: let someone you trust know where you are going, and when to expect you back.
&#8226; If you are suspicious of someone, trust your instincts. Do not engage in any conversation and proceed to the nearest safe or public place and report the incident immediately. Scream or use a personal emergency alarm to attract attention".

 

[deugirtni]

It was 12:30am on November 27th that she was last seen at her home by her estranged husband. But from there, we don't know when she actually departed from the townhouse.

If JB had seen her and gone to bed (as would be expected if he had a regular day-job), she could have 'left' later during that same night (Wed), or any time the next morning or day (Thurs) while JB was at work, and he would have been none the wiser (assuming they retired to separate bedrooms, and that it would be normal for her to have left her car in the parking/lot). So SB could have left or been picked up during the night time or during the daylight hours.

So, in order for me to potentially do this walk-through I need a clarification. I looked through all the information and I think I'm correct in thinking that her husband was the last known person who saw her at approx. 12:30am Nov.26th. At that point he is gone to bed and sleeping. So, Shannon was either forcibly taken from her residence without waking her husband (unlikely) or she left with her keys and wallet, no cellphone, by herself.

Please correct me if I am wrong, I need a confirmed approx time/method of exit.

 

[dotr]

Maybe JB was not the only person in the house on the night Shannon was last seen?

Did Shannon wear earplugs/listen to music when she would go outside?
Was she distracted making/ creating " funny voices" on her presumed walk that night?

 

[melbot1000]

Excellent, thanks for the clarifications. I'll see if this walk-through actually happens, it just started to dump snow here in Calgary. Bummer!

 

[dotr]

Repost,
JB in the car @ 0:52 " ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVH31Lw5jI

Also reposting SHM interviewed in her home "studio"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTQkTM25xfY

 

[melbot1000]

Repost,
JB in the car @ 0:52 " ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVH31Lw5jI

Also reposting SHM interviewed in her home "studio"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTQkTM25xfY

I thought that was JB as well!

 

[Micheline]

It was 12:30am on November 27th that she was last seen at her home by her estranged husband.

All the news articles say Shannon was last seen at her house by a family member, is an estranged husband a family member? Why would they not simply say last seen by her (ex) husband instead of by a 'family-member'? TIA

 

[LoisLane]

All the news articles say Shannon was last seen at her house by a family member, is an estranged husband a family member? Why would they not simply say last seen by her (ex) husband instead of by a 'family-member'? TIA

I wonder if they were officialy divorced.

 

[dotr]

I wonder if they were officialy divorced.

Estranged ...

Wonder what the " specifics" might include?
rbbm.
http://www.660news.com/2014/12/05/police-search-for-missing-calgary-woman-2/

"Police have been following up on leads and the whole family has been very cooperative, including the estranged husband who also appeared with family Friday at police headquarters.

Staff Sgt. Travis Baker wouldn&#8217;t get into specifics of the investigation, but did say many of her personal items including her cellphone and car were left at her home"

 

[deugirtni]

Hmm, maybe you are correct.. have we been assuming all this time that the 'family member' that SB was last seen by, at her home, at 12:30am on November 27th, was her estranged husband, without it ever having been confirmed at any time? I suppose it was an easy stretch, considering that the two still reportedly shared the same home. But it is certainly possible that it wasn't the estranged husband afterall. I can't help assuming it was the husband for the following reasons:
i)they reportedly still lived in the same home
ii)she had presumably just arrived home from out of town a couple of hours before she was last 'seen'
iii)it was a weekday work night, and with JB reportedly having a regular weekday job, most need to get to bed in order to function at work
iv)imho, they are stating 'family member' instead of 'estranged husband' because they may not want to lead people to unfairly think the wrong thing
v)someone would need to be home to feed the reported dog, if indeed the dog is still residing in SB's home, but we really dont' know that either

However.. now that we are aware of this couple's alternate lifestyle, in addition to their estrangement, it is quite possible that JB wasn't even home at all during those days from Wednesday night through Monday. But if that is the case, then who would it have been in the family that last saw her at her home at midnight on a weeknight? Why wouldn't LE or family want to say who it was? And why isn't that person, whomever it is, saying what the circumstances were at the time, and what any of SB's stated plans may have been, and which frame of mind SB may have been in.

All the news articles say Shannon was last seen at her house by a family member, is an estranged husband a family member? Why would they not simply say last seen by her (ex) husband instead of by a 'family-member'? TIA

 

[melbot1000]

They couldn't have been going through a divorce, as you need to be separated from your spouse for a year. That means not living in the same residence. Perhaps they were emotionally estranged, but legally if they were still living together then they were still married. The whole thing is super confusing. I feel like if they were actually 'estranged' then it would be very recent and someone would be in the process of moving.

OR maybe they were no longer together and still amicably living in the same residence for financial reasons. Sigh, lord knows divorce can be expensive.

 

[news.talk]

Hmm, maybe you are correct.. have we been assuming all this time that the 'family member' that SB was last seen by, at her home, at 12:30am on November 27th, was her estranged husband, without it ever having been confirmed at any time? I suppose it was an easy stretch, considering that the two still reportedly shared the same home. But it is certainly possible that it wasn't the estranged husband afterall. I can't help assuming it was the husband for the following reasons:
i)they reportedly still lived in the same home
ii)she had presumably just arrived home from out of town a couple of hours before she was last 'seen'
iii)it was a weekday work night, and with JB reportedly having a regular weekday job, most need to get to bed in order to function at work
iv)imho, they are stating 'family member' instead of 'estranged husband' because they may not want to lead people to unfairly think the wrong thing
v)someone would need to be home to feed the reported dog, if indeed the dog is still residing in SB's home, but we really dont' know that either

However.. now that we are aware of this couple's alternate lifestyle, in addition to their estrangement, it is quite possible that JB wasn't even home at all during those days from Wednesday night through Monday. But if that is the case, then who would it have been in the family that last saw her at her home at midnight on a weeknight? Why wouldn't LE or family want to say who it was? And why isn't that person, whomever it is, saying what the circumstances were at the time, and what any of SB's stated plans may have been, and which frame of mind SB may have been in.

It says in the article below, that it was her estranged husband that saw her last:

http://www.calgarysun.com/2014/12/03/family-seeking-clues-in-missing--womans-disappearance



Burgess was last seen on Nov. 26 by her estranged husband in Calgary".

 

[Lalalacasbah]

All the news articles say Shannon was last seen at her house by a family member, is an estranged husband a family member? Why would they not simply say last seen by her (ex) husband instead of by a 'family-member'? TIA

Maybe they used the term so the public will not immediately paint the ex-husband guilty of a crime (which is hard not to do if we look at statistics). The spouse is usually the first suspect, so maybe LE wanted to deflect from that to not have any assumptions.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

They couldn't have been going through a divorce, as you need to be separated from your spouse for a year. That means not living in the same residence. Perhaps they were emotionally estranged, but legally if they were still living together then they were still married. The whole thing is super confusing. I feel like if they were actually 'estranged' then it would be very recent and someone would be in the process of moving.

OR maybe they were no longer together and still amicably living in the same residence for financial reasons. Sigh, lord knows divorce can be expensive.

I have to word this carefully….but maybe they were still 'intimately' involved….Many separated couples these days tend to leave the door open to the ex for favors if you will. So still connected - but not committed and like you say, still saving money and expenses on rent, gas, groceries, etc. by living together.

 

[stan laurel]

her shanswer youtube page;

https://www.youtube.com/user/Shanswer/channels

 

[whiterhino]

Hey all, I've been lurking for some time & wanted to join the thread.

Has anyone looked into the incident of the car brakes being cut? Bc as I've read, SB would sometimes walk but had her own vehicle. Someone could have snipped her brakes to ensure she would be on foot or dependent on/ accepting of a ride. The only problem is how did that person get her out of the house? Unless they knew her routines & just waited for the right time. Is that "D" person the same person who made the comment/joke about her brakes via Twitter? Blaming some mythical character from their roleplay? That seems like an odd interaction/thing to say imho. If my brake lines were cut, I'd be freaking paranoid!

With Christmas having passed, I truly hope Shannon left of her own accord and is safe. Her family must be so concerned.

 

[stan laurel]

found a different flickr-like acct, a few more pics;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31706624@N05/2969811407/in/photostream/

 

[deugirtni]

Ok, so it *has* been confirmed in MSM that the last person to 'see' her was JB. (That is if we can believe the 'Sun' newspaper). In the article, I found it interesting that it says in the quoted article (BBM):

&#8220;She had all sorts of plans the weekend that she never showed up to &#8212; not just obligations, but fun things she was telling us she was looking forward to.&#8221;

Burgess was last seen on Nov. 26 by her estranged husband in Calgary.

Her family found Burgess&#8217;s car parked at her home in Calgary, but haven&#8217;t seen any trace of her since returning.

With her car and cell phone left at her home, Burgess&#8217;s family is at a loss to explain her disappearance.."

The article specifies that JB was last to see her, but that it was the family that found her car parked at her home (even though JB also lived at the same home and in the same article the writer has referred to JB separately), and that they haven't seen any trace of her since 'returning'. ... so therefore, only JB saw her after 'returning'.

It says in the article below, that it was her estranged husband that saw her last: