Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #3 *Arrest*

[LoisLane]

Awesome observation LL!

Hhmmm, had look….PM is friends with her on her nsfw account, and he seems to be fairly active in the search as I saw him respond to a couple comments under an article IIRC. Wouldn't he see her being active? I sure wish I kept count of those friends, as it's an interesting detail.

If Shannon asks her friends new and old that she wants to keep her drama quiet they may be honoring that request.

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[OutOfTheDarkness]

True. Is there a way to tell when her last activity was?

Even if you could, would you be able to know it was her? What if it's family or LE testing suspects or trying new "investigative techniques"?

 

[lynck]

as far as I know, when someone "deletes" their account, it un-friends everyone and they'd have to re-add them all again. Happened to me once lol

 

[news.talk]

If Shannon asks her friends new and old that she wants to keep her drama quiet they may be honoring that request.

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Since there was a post that LE was logging into her account, I would assume that social-media is one of those things that they monitor. They could easily check her activity log and from there, get a location from the "active sessions" section in her settings, which shows the city, date and device in which it was accessed. I suspect they would also activate log-in alerts to be notified when a new device logs in to that account.

 

[Sillybilly]

Since there was a post that LE was logging into her account, I would assume that social-media is one of those things that they monitor. They could easily check her activity log and from there, get a location from the "active sessions" section in her settings, which shows the city, date and device in which it was accessed. I suspect they would also activate log-in alerts to be notified when a new device logs in to that account.

If it was LE that logged into her account, who might they have obtained the password from? IF it was provided by someone who knew Shannon, then that person had the potential access that same account.

We have another Canadian case on WS (memory fails .. was it JRN?) where FB, based in the US, was not being cooperative with providing LE access to an account. Do we think it might have been different in Shannon's case?

 

[news.talk]

If it was LE that logged into her account, who might they have obtained the password from? IF it was provided by someone who knew Shannon, then that person had the potential access that same account.

We have another Canadian case on WS (memory fails .. was it JRN?) where FB, based in the US, was not being cooperative with providing LE access to an account. Do we think it might have been different in Shannon's case?

Keep in mind, she left her phone behind. Most people have FB app's that don't require signing in. Same goes if she had it open on a desktop or laptop. A post by a family member on her FB timeline indicated that it was LE logging in to her account.

 

[evafiore]

as far as I know, when someone "deletes" their account, it un-friends everyone and they'd have to re-add them all again. Happened to me once lol

Not true...for me, anyways. I deactivate my account on a regular basis (in fact, my account is deactivated most of the time as I despise FB---I'll reactivate when I need to get in touch with someone for whom I have no other means of contact). All friends are still there when I reactivate.

 

[news.talk]

Not true...for me, anyways. I deactivate my account on a regular basis (in fact, my account is deactivated most of the time as I don't like it---I'll reactivate when I need to get in touch with someone for whom I have no other means of contact). All friends are still there when I reactivate.

Deactivating an account and deleting an accoubt are two seperate things though... One you control, another you send a request to FB Support.

 

[evafiore]

If it was LE that logged into her account, who might they have obtained the password from? IF it was provided by someone who knew Shannon, then that person had the potential access that same account.

We have another Canadian case on WS (memory fails .. was it JRN?) where FB, based in the US, was not being cooperative with providing LE access to an account. Do we think it might have been different in Shannon's case?

Wonder if LE access could be dependent on providing certain facts. When I create an account for social media, I always give the same false birth date. If someone did that, and then another party were to request access to the account later with the person's true birth date, would access be denied based on that discrepancy?

 

[evafiore]

Human remains found last weekend by Leduc.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/touc...5&hootPostID=3828ec43c59df8a698e5a7767688c26f

Sara Coates?

 

[deugirtni]

The other case I heard of where LE wasn't given access by FB even though they had warrants, was Justin (JMB). I believe one of our members here got this info directly from the family. They have strict guidelines that were posted in another thread (maybe JMB's?) outlining what exactly they need in order to give up info on someone's account, and even then, it seems different requirements for different info. Being a US organization, and having these strict guidelines, makes me wonder if any police outside of the US would be able to meet their requirements, even though they say they will deal with LE internationally. Best bet is to actually have the person's pw info it seems, or like news.talk said, if the cellphone is available, gain access that way.. but even then, would they be able to change the pw so they could access the account from police computers, as opposed to only from the cellphone? To change a pw, doesn't one get asked to enter the existing one first? Not sure on that, but it's often the way with other things.

Wonder if LE access could be dependent on providing certain facts. When I create an account for social media, I always give the same false birth date. If someone did that, and then another party were to request access to the account later with the person's true birth date, would access be denied based on that discrepancy?

 

[deugirtni]

Yes but it is from early March.

Haha! I have notes but I realize I ignored a few details that would be extremely helpful. I am so mad at myself!

Deug? You are very organized, do you have a file?

 

[deugirtni]

I was reading up on what happens to one's fb friends when they deactivate.. it seems that in mid year 2012, things on FB changed so that anyone with a deactivated account, that person would still show up on their friends list of friends. People at the time were wondering why they suddenly had a sometimes large increase in the number of friends. It seems this was a preventative measure to better protect privacy. Even though the deactivated 'friend' would still show up in your friends list, you wouldn't be able to access anything else, like the deactivated friend's profile, photos, etc. So.. if SB disappeared in November 2014, the number of friends should not have changed for that type of reason. The only thing I can think of is what news.talk said, and that is if SB had sent out friend requests, and they had been accepted at some point after her disappearance. But like LoisLane said, she didn't have many to begin with, so would the list really have grown that much?

Not true...for me, anyways. I deactivate my account on a regular basis (in fact, my account is deactivated most of the time as I despise FB---I'll reactivate when I need to get in touch with someone for whom I have no other means of contact). All friends are still there when I reactivate.

 

[deugirtni]

I came across one of the missing pieces of information we had been talking about, while I was looking into SB's FB friends situation.

You may recall there was some discussion here in regard to whether SB had stayed in Edmonton after the weekend prior to her disappearance (weekend of Nov 22/23), where we know she had gone, or whether she had travelled home after the weekend and then back to Edmonton again in time for her Wednesday audition?

There was discussion here that it didn't make sense that she would have travelled all the way home on the Sunday, only to go all the way back on the Wednesday, that it costs money to do all of that travelling, and that money was likely not all that plentiful for 'her' based on her career aspirations, and considering her and JB were considered exes at the time.

Tonight I found that one of her FB friends with initials NG, commented in regard to one of the 'Missing' reports on SB's sister-in-law's FB page, saying that 'she was just with her on Tuesday' (Nov 25); further research tells me this friend lives, works and attends school in Calgary.

So now we have a little clearer timeline of her last days before disappearing into thin air:

Updated Timeline:

-October 29, 2012 - SMB and JB became FB friends under their NSFW accounts

-November 29, 2012 - SMB and JB became engaged, she shows off her new ring

-March 15, 2013 - SMB introduces her new pup Beowoof

-May 1, 2014 - SMB announces apparently out of the blue and without JB knowing in advance, that she is getting married (to him) on May 4, 2014

-May 4, 2014 - Altho I don't see any confirmation anywhere, it is assumed the 2 got married on this day?

-Nov 22-23, 2014 - SMB was in Edmonton during this weekend, seen by many, confirmed by SB's sister EM during the press conference

-Nov 25, 2014 - at some point - one of SMB's FB friends with initials NG says 'she was just with her on Tuesday' (Nov 25); (this person commented on SB's sister-in-law's (CM's) FB in response to a Missing post which CM had reposted; the NG person lives, works and attends school in Calgary. I think imo it is a safe assumption then, that SMB was in Calgary on Nov 25, so looks like she must have returned to Calgary after the weekend events on Nov 23/23, only to travel back again on the Wednesday

-Nov 25, 2014 - this is also the day on which SMB made plans with her brother BM to meet and attend an event at Stage West on Sunday, Nov 29/30 (stated by EM at the press conference)

-Nov 25, 2014 @ 11:54 pm (Nov 25 23:54) Calgary time, - SMB posted on FB that 'breaks' went for $h!t (no location showing)

-Nov 25, 2014 @ 11:58 pm (Nov 25 23:58) Calgary time, - a DM pointed out her spelling error re "breaks" vs 'brakes'

-Nov 26 @ 12:02 am (Nov 26 00:02) Calgary time, - SMB acknowledged DM's spelling correction and edited her earlier post to "brakes"

-Nov 26 - probably all day - I'm adding in here that it is believed she attended an audition, which she did in fact show up for, in Edmonton, sometime on this day, not sure what time; this means that she likely did not drive her own vehicle to Edmonton for this one-day round trip due to her faulty brakes being discovered the evening prior, therefore.... how did she get to Edm and back? Did her exhusband drive her? Did she take a bus? SMB makes a comment later (see below) that she didn't make 'it BACK to Calgary in time', which gives credence to the belief she was in fact in Edmonton on that day (Nov 26). I believe her attendance in Edmonton was verified by one of her industry associates with firstname Ben.

- Nov 26, 2014 @ 09:15 pm (Nov 26 21:15) Calgary time, - SMB posts on YukYuks Development Night FB page &#8220;So sad I didn&#8217;t make it back into Calgary in time for the show&#8221; (Note the past tense, which to me, would indicate that she was back in Calgary at time of writing, if it was even her that wrote that on FB); (show started at 7;30pm, with other industry events taking place earlier, starting I believe at 5:30pm, and apparently SMB, or someone on her behalf, had indicated that she would be attending)

- Nov 26, 2014 @ 10:06 pm (Nov 26 22:06) Calgary time, - SMB made her last publicly visible FB post wrt "missing the man ... funzies ..." - which was a post she made in reply to her fellow Larper friend with whom she performed that particular 'skit' or whatever you want to call it. This post was made on SMB's own FB page.

- Nov 27, 2014 @ 12:30am (Nov 27 00:30) Calgary time, (2.5 hours after her last known public FB post - what happened during those 2.5 hours from her last post to her supposed last sighting?),- SMB was reported (by police) to have been last seen by her ex husband JB at the home they still shared even though reportedly going through a 'messy divorce' by MSM - this is reported by MSM and LE as being the last time she was seen and/or heard from. (Note that in other MSM articles, it states that her last 'official' sighting was on November 26) (http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/123...to-dissappear/ "The family found her cellphone and car at home with no bank activity since last week, but her wallet and keys weren&#8217;t in the apartment. They couldn&#8217;t find a passport, but are unsure if she has a valid passport. Officially, Burgess was last seen Nov. 26.")

- Nov 29, 2014 - SMB failed to show up for a number of things such as rehearsals, engagements, etc., in Edmonton

- Nov 30, 2014 @ whatever time, - SMB failed to show up (as she had made plans to do only 5 days prior, on Tuesday Nov 25th), for an event with her brother (I believe it was brother Brett) at Stage West in Calgary, or to otherwise contact him to let him know she wasn't attending afterall.

- Dec 01, 2014 @ whatever time, - SMB's father called SMB's sister EM to ask if she had spoken to SMB lately, and when she had not, EM started trying to reach SMB, and also contacted JB, and when she didn't hear back from SMB, and when JB returned 'HOME that night' and found she wasn't there, the family called then called police.

- Dec 04, 2014 @ whatever time, - police and family members (SMB's mom, dad, 2 brothers, 1 sister, 1 sister-in-law, and ex-husband) made a plea to the public during a press conference and to SMB if she was listening, to come forward with any information on SMB's whereabouts.

- Dec 11, 2014 or earlier - police report they have expanded their search and have requested Toronto and Vancouver police department assistance in locating SMB since tips suggested she may be there; another article stated she may have been 'spotted' in either of these two cities: "Earlier this week, police services in Toronto and Vancouver issued releases indicating investigators had received information she may have been spotted in either of the two cities."
http://globalnews.ca/news/1725930/t...police-join-search-for-missing-calgary-woman/

- Dec 14, 2014 - photos found in Fish Creek Park, police did an indepth investigation into this since the photos appeared they *could be* SMB, although the face was obliterated; photos were reported by MSM to be 'macabre' in nature, however SMB's sister EM said otherwise on her bf's FB page, calling them 'happy' in nature.

- Dec 17, 2014 - photos determined to be unrelated to SMB, an artist group came forward and said the photos were a project they were working on
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Please note that I also came across an MSM article which states that SMB was last seen LEAVING her home:

Shannon Madill (Burgess), 25, was last seen leaving her home on Spiller Rd. on Nov. 27.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1725930/t...police-join-search-for-missing-calgary-woman/

Also, an article stating that she left with her wallet and keys and that they were unable to locate her passport (but another article said family wasn't certain whether she still had a passport). I'm not sure at this point whether initial reports said she left with her bank cards or with her wallet.
http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/12...o-family-said-its-not-like-her-to-dissappear/

MOO, but I still wonder if SMB ever did really make it back to her home after being in Edmonton on Nov 26th, and I'm left wondering if something happened to her along the way home between there and Calgary that evening.

 

[news.talk]

I came across one of the missing pieces of information we had been talking about, while I was looking into SB's FB friends situation.

You may recall there was some discussion here in regard to whether SB had stayed in Edmonton after the weekend prior to her disappearance (weekend of Nov 22/23), where we know she had gone, or whether she had travelled home after the weekend and then back to Edmonton again in time for her Wednesday audition?

There was discussion here that it didn't make sense that she would have travelled all the way home on the Sunday, only to go all the way back on the Wednesday, that it costs money to do all of that travelling, and that money was likely not all that plentiful for 'her' based on her career aspirations, and considering her and JB were considered exes at the time.

Tonight I found that one of her FB friends with initials NG, commented in regard to one of the 'Missing' reports on SB's sister-in-law's FB page, saying that 'she was just with her on Tuesday' (Nov 25); further research tells me this friend lives, works and attends school in Calgary.

So now we have a little clearer timeline of her last days before disappearing into thin air:

Updated Timeline:

-October 29, 2012 - SMB and JB became FB friends under their NSFW accounts

-November 29, 2012 - SMB and JB became engaged, she shows off her new ring

-March 15, 2013 - SMB introduces her new pup Beowoof

-May 1, 2014 - SMB announces apparently out of the blue and without JB knowing in advance, that she is getting married (to him) on May 4, 2014

-May 4, 2014 - Altho I don't see any confirmation anywhere, it is assumed the 2 got married on this day?

-Nov 22-23, 2014 - SMB was in Edmonton during this weekend, seen by many, confirmed by SB's sister EM during the press conference

-Nov 25, 2014 - at some point - one of SMB's FB friends with initials NG says 'she was just with her on Tuesday' (Nov 25); (this person commented on SB's sister-in-law's (CM's) FB in response to a Missing post which CM had reposted; the NG person lives, works and attends school in Calgary. I think imo it is a safe assumption then, that SMB was in Calgary on Nov 25, so looks like she must have returned to Calgary after the weekend events on Nov 23/23, only to travel back again on the Wednesday

-Nov 25, 2014 - this is also the day on which SMB made plans with her brother BM to meet and attend an event at Stage West on Sunday, Nov 29/30 (stated by EM at the press conference)

-Nov 25, 2014 @ 11:54 pm (Nov 25 23:54) Calgary time, - SMB posted on FB that 'breaks' went for $h!t (no location showing)

-Nov 25, 2014 @ 11:58 pm (Nov 25 23:58) Calgary time, - a DM pointed out her spelling error re "breaks" vs 'brakes'

-Nov 26 @ 12:02 am (Nov 26 00:02) Calgary time, - SMB acknowledged DM's spelling correction and edited her earlier post to "brakes"

-Nov 26 - probably all day - I'm adding in here that it is believed she attended an audition, which she did in fact show up for, in Edmonton, sometime on this day, not sure what time; this means that she likely did not drive her own vehicle to Edmonton for this one-day round trip due to her faulty brakes being discovered the evening prior, therefore.... how did she get to Edm and back? Did her exhusband drive her? Did she take a bus? SMB makes a comment later (see below) that she didn't make 'it BACK to Calgary in time', which gives credence to the belief she was in fact in Edmonton on that day (Nov 26). I believe her attendance in Edmonton was verified by one of her industry associates with firstname Ben.

- Nov 26, 2014 @ 09:15 pm (Nov 26 21:15) Calgary time, - SMB posts on YukYuks Development Night FB page “So sad I didn’t make it back into Calgary in time for the show” (Note the past tense, which to me, would indicate that she was back in Calgary at time of writing, if it was even her that wrote that on FB); (show started at 7;30pm, with other industry events taking place earlier, starting I believe at 5:30pm, and apparently SMB, or someone on her behalf, had indicated that she would be attending)

- Nov 26, 2014 @ 10:06 pm (Nov 26 22:06) Calgary time, - SMB made her last publicly visible FB post wrt "missing the man ... funzies ..." - which was a post she made in reply to her fellow Larper friend with whom she performed that particular 'skit' or whatever you want to call it. This post was made on SMB's own FB page.

- Nov 27, 2014 @ 12:30am (Nov 27 00:30) Calgary time, (2.5 hours after her last known public FB post - what happened during those 2.5 hours from her last post to her supposed last sighting?),- SMB was reported (by police) to have been last seen by her ex husband JB at the home they still shared even though reportedly going through a 'messy divorce' by MSM - this is reported by MSM and LE as being the last time she was seen and/or heard from. (Note that in other MSM articles, it states that her last 'official' sighting was on November 26) (http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/123...to-dissappear/ "The family found her cellphone and car at home with no bank activity since last week, but her wallet and keys weren’t in the apartment. They couldn’t find a passport, but are unsure if she has a valid passport. Officially, Burgess was last seen Nov. 26.")

- Nov 29, 2014 - SMB failed to show up for a number of things such as rehearsals, engagements, etc., in Edmonton

- Nov 30, 2014 @ whatever time, - SMB failed to show up (as she had made plans to do only 5 days prior, on Tuesday Nov 25th), for an event with her brother (I believe it was brother Brett) at Stage West in Calgary, or to otherwise contact him to let him know she wasn't attending afterall.

- Dec 01, 2014 @ whatever time, - SMB's father called SMB's sister EM to ask if she had spoken to SMB lately, and when she had not, EM started trying to reach SMB, and also contacted JB, and when she didn't hear back from SMB, and when JB returned 'HOME that night' and found she wasn't there, the family called then called police.

- Dec 04, 2014 @ whatever time, - police and family members (SMB's mom, dad, 2 brothers, 1 sister, 1 sister-in-law, and ex-husband) made a plea to the public during a press conference and to SMB if she was listening, to come forward with any information on SMB's whereabouts.

- Dec 11, 2014 or earlier - police report they have expanded their search and have requested Toronto and Vancouver police department assistance in locating SMB since tips suggested she may be there; another article stated she may have been 'spotted' in either of these two cities: "Earlier this week, police services in Toronto and Vancouver issued releases indicating investigators had received information she may have been spotted in either of the two cities."
http://globalnews.ca/news/1725930/t...police-join-search-for-missing-calgary-woman/

- Dec 14, 2014 - photos found in Fish Creek Park, police did an indepth investigation into this since the photos appeared they *could be* SMB, although the face was obliterated; photos were reported by MSM to be 'macabre' in nature, however SMB's sister EM said otherwise on her bf's FB page, calling them 'happy' in nature.

- Dec 17, 2014 - photos determined to be unrelated to SMB, an artist group came forward and said the photos were a project they were working on
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Please note that I also came across an MSM article which states that SMB was last seen LEAVING her home:

http://globalnews.ca/news/1725930/t...police-join-search-for-missing-calgary-woman/

Also, an article stating that she left with her wallet and keys and that they were unable to locate her passport (but another article said family wasn't certain whether she still had a passport). I'm not sure at this point whether initial reports said she left with her bank cards or with her wallet.
http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/12...o-family-said-its-not-like-her-to-dissappear/

MOO, but I still wonder if SMB ever did really make it back to her home after being in Edmonton on Nov 26th, and I'm left wondering if something happened to her along the way home between there and Calgary that evening.

That was my guess. I suspected that 'someone' else posted on her FB using her phone, to make it look like she had arrived back and then left. It would be very interesting to determine HOW she got home from Edmonton.

 

[deugirtni]

Would be really good to know what time she was last seen (officially??) in Edmonton, and how she travelled there and back on that day. It's possible that someone posted on FB from her phone, as you said, both that she was sad she didn't make it back in time for the YY show, and then the reply 2.5 hours later to the Larp fellow. If someone was posting on her phone at around 9pm, and they already had her phone in their possession, then that would indicate something happened prior to that time? The money and also perhaps dependency issues could have been creating issues between the SMB and her ex-spouse, as if it wouldn't have been difficult enough if they were still residing together during their separation. I hope police are somehow looking along the roadways between Edm and Calgary. I guess that would be an awfully long stretch to search. ;(

That was my guess. I suspected that 'someone' else posted on her FB using her phone, to make it look like she had arrived back and then left. It would be very interesting to determine HOW she got home from Edmonton.

 

[news.talk]

Would be really good to know what time she was last seen (officially??) in Edmonton, and how she travelled there and back on that day. It's possible that someone posted on FB from her phone, as you said, both that she was sad she didn't make it back in time for the YY show, and then the reply 2.5 hours later to the Larp fellow. If someone was posting on her phone at around 9pm, and they already had her phone in their possession, then that would indicate something happened prior to that time? The money and also perhaps dependency issues could have been creating issues between the SMB and her ex-spouse, as if it wouldn't have been difficult enough if they were still residing together during their separation. I hope police are somehow looking along the roadways between Edm and Calgary. I guess that would be an awfully long stretch to search. ;(

I may be mistaken, but SB'S Facebook seems to have all the "missing" posts by family gone, with the exception of three. Weren't there the news clips and other releases on there before?

 

[deugirtni]

No, SB's FB ended when she disappeared. All of the 'missing' posts have been posted to others' FB accounts, like CM, EM,.. her family.. (if I'm understanding you correctly).

I may be mistaken, but SB'S Facebook seems to have all the "missing" posts by family gone, with the exception of three. Weren't there the news clips and other releases on there before?

 

[evafiore]

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Please note that I also came across an MSM article which states that SMB was last seen LEAVING her home:

http://globalnews.ca/news/1725930/t...police-join-search-for-missing-calgary-woman/

That "leaving" part is interesting, and the fact that it's been included in just one news source suggests there's important information that the family and LE are holding back, or it's just shoddy reporting. Would be good to know how she left, according to that family member. On foot or by car? If by car, does that mean she returned the car sometime after that and then disappeared? Why hasn't this been clarified to the public?

 

[deugirtni]

This news report that says 'last seen leaving' (I wonder why nobody seems to have come across that article before now??) seems to match with her sister's understanding, because her sister said during the press conference (don't have the wording in front of me right now) that 'she left'. I wonder if this MSM got their information from the sister directly, while the others got theirs from LE? It does seem that it is a point which LE seem to be keeping quiet for some reason. I have no idea why.

Actually, perhaps I can take a wild guess. The power of 'suggestion' perhaps? If police said last seen somewhere else, I wonder if some peoples' 'false memory syndrome' might kick in, ie 'oh yes, I saw someone who looked like her at that location on that night'. So perhaps they (LE) are protecting the integrity of their case by simply stating 'last seen at her home', because then they will only hear otherwise from people who actually did see her in a different location, and it could never be said later during a trial, that LE put that idea in their heads? Although.. 'last seen at her home', and 'last seen leaving her home' are basically the same location anyway, so does that make sense?

Since her vehicle apparently had bad brakes, discovered only the night before SMB went missing, that would indicate that she likely didn't drive her car to Edmonton on that day, nor after she got home.

I sense this feeling of someone having dug a hole for her/himself somehow. It would have been so much simpler if she had simply never arrived home from Edmonton at all on the evening of Nov 26th.. except.. if someone was providing the transportation, one couldn't easily make that statement, could they? So then a certain person might become therefore by default, the last person to have seen her, when otherwise, it could have been someone in Edmonton being the last person.

Then from there it has to be figured out that if she arrived home, then where did she go, because her vehicle is still here at home and with bad brakes according to SMB. It was a 0degree C ish evening temp wise IIRC, so I wonder if SMB did much walking alone at 12:30 at night in that temp? Was it windy at all? And why would she have left her cellphone in that situation? If she had planned on disappearing, what did she pack to take with her on foot? Or was she just going to hope for the best, that she would find clothing along the way?

Unfortunately by the time she was finally reported missing 5 days later, were any video recordings from local area establishments still available to track her? I would love to know if her bank card was used after she was last seen, since family said they had put up posters in the area where she had last been known to spend money before disappearing. "The family has put up posters around Inglewood where her last financial transactions were made." (from http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/shannon-madill-missing-calgarian-sought-by-police-1.2862214 )

If a stranger/perp had stolen her wallet and bank cards/credit cards, and was bold enough to use them in the first place, why would they stop using them? They had 5 days to use them before the news of her being missing came out. I wonder when the final 'financial transaction' was made? I wonder how many transactions and when the first one was? Were police ever able to verify with the establishment that it was a person matching SMB's description who actually used the card? Don't cards nowadays require pin numbers, even credit cards? Would a stranger be able to determine her pin within few enough times to not get it locked out? Would her husband know her pin? My husband knows my pin. In fact, we both have the same pin for our cards. We even borrow each other's cards from time to time. I wonder if their financial arrangement was similar? I wonder who it was that called in tips saying she may have been seen in 'either of the locations of Vancouver or Toronto'? Why is it stated to be 'either', rather than 'both'? Is 'both' too unbelievable?

That "leaving" part is interesting, and the fact that it's been included in just one news source suggests there's important information that the family and LE are holding back, or it's just shoddy reporting. Would be good to know how she left, according to that family member. On foot or by car? If by car, does that mean she returned the car sometime after that and then disappeared? Why hasn't this been clarified to the public?