Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #3 *Arrest*

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Shannon does not have a medical condition, per police, and she is not normally in distress. Police state that they know nothing about Shannon, an adult, who vanished from her home in Nov 2014. She is still missing. She may be in distress. Police have no information about a medical conditions.

The quote you used stated clearly that if they had any information about a medical condition, they wouldn't discuss it. Sooooo...

 

[evafiore]

Just because a person might suffer through a depression in their lifetime (I believe statistics show that many will suffer at least one in their lives), doesn't mean they are suicidal. It sounds like she was careful not to allow it to creep into her life again.

Very true. I wasn't thinking that she was necessarily suicidal---more as being in a similar crisis, and as a result, making some poor decisions and/or crying for help.

 

[deugirtni]

Actually, it didn't state that she does NOT have a medical condition, it stated they'd be looking into that, and that if she does/did have a medical condition, they wouldnt' be revealing anything about that. Agreed that she is presumably not normally in distress, and perhaps she wasn't in distress before her disappearance either.. afterall, she had just attended an audition apparently in Edmonton. Perhaps someone is *saying* she was in distress when they last saw her. Then once a body may be found months after her disappearance, it will be simpler to look upon it as a suicide perhaps, rather than a homicide. I really hope that doesn't happen.

I am wondering.. the longer a body is undiscovered, and the more it decomposes, wouldn't it potentially become more and more difficult to ascertain whether it was a suicide or a homicide (depending of course, on the cause of death, if that can even be distinguished by then). If a certain perp who may have caused her death is aware that SB suffered through a depression at one time during her lifetime, and tells people that she may have been in distress when he was the last to see her, I am hoping that is not a possible attempt to explain why she became deceased, if and when her body is discovered.

Shannon does not have a medical condition, per police, and she is not normally in distress. Police state that they know nothing about Shannon, an adult, who vanished from her home in Nov 2014. She is still missing. She may be in distress. Police have no information about a medical conditions.

 

[deugirtni]

If I may take the liberty of answering, I know that the 'we' included at least news.talk and myself, and perhaps others on here as well, who believe it is a possibility that a certain someone who may have had access to SB's cellphone during the time BEFORE she was stated to have disappeared, ie between the time of her last public FB posts around 10pm and her disappearance around 12;30am, may have texted or msg'd something to someone via FB or other txting app which made it appear that SB had imminent plans to travel to Vancouver or Toronto.

Unfortunately we are not privvy to what the final conversations or circumstances were when someone reportedly last saw her at 12;30am Nov 27th. They could have been completely separate in their own spaces with closed doors, they could have argued, she could have, or at least he could have said that she walked out with an arrogant 'anything'. LE and family haven't enlightened the public as to those final reported activities. Somehow LE got the idea from somewhere that she may have been headed to one of those places and so they asked for TPS and VPS help in looking out for her. Since I think that most of us don't really believe she was headed in any such direction, we are merely speculating as to how LE may have arrived at that conclusion that it was a possibility.

For all we know, SB's cellphone could have been alone with someone for hours prior to the time when he reported that he last saw her. If it is easy to access someone's FB account via an app on the person's cellphone, without necessarily having login codes, it is a possibility that the last person to be with her may have had access and taken that liberty of posting things on her FB and perhaps also private messaging something to someone to make it appear that it was SB sending them.

If SB had arrived back to Calgary, safely to her home, and she then went on to make 2 FB posts around 10pm Calgary time... what happened between 10pm and 12;30am when she was last reportedly seen? There is a gap.

We ... who is we ..Royal We?

No text was sent from Shannon after she vanished ... her phone was at home and the last person to see her hasn't said anything about Shannon walking out the door with an arrogant "I'm off to Toronto/Vancouver" even though I got the part in Edmonton.

... and then the stage actress fell off the face of the earth?

Shannon's phone was at home, with her husband from approximately midnight Wed/Thurs Nov 26/27 2014 onward until people that know and love her noticed her missing ... apparently nothing that happened on her phone for five days concerned him. She has not been seen since her husband last saw her at their home. He saw her phone many times after he last saw her ... for five days. Apparently he watched her phone ring, bounce, or vibrate for five days, and did nothing about it ... I guess he thought it was normal for his estranged, perhaps in distress, staged open-marriage wife's phone to be sitting at home to be normal?

 

[deugirtni]

Staff Sgt. Travis Baker

There's been one press conference.

What is the name of the officer that became "flustered" during the one press conference?

 

[otto]

I know this has been mentioned much further upthread, but as it may be relevant to what's being discussed again, I'll re-post:

<bbm>
SB:
"At the same time I had several major stressors and through the next 15 months I made a slow transition into a complete mental break down. I am doing much better now, but because of the life style changes I have had to make to get myself here I am not as active and have started putting the weight back on.
I liked my weight the past year. I always felt beautiful, even though I was misserable, and I want to bring myself back to it, but I am worried that it may have been a major factor towards my mental health issues."

Take what you will from that, but it seems clear to me that her mental health should not be ruled out as a factor in her disappearance.

Is that quote attributed to the victim and, if so, where is the link?

 

[otto]

Staff Sgt. Travis Baker

The experienced police spokesperson was "flustered" during the press conference? What did he do?

 

[news.talk]

What trip to NZ?

Where is the link?

SB wrote several blog style posts on Facebook called Notes - She also has a Reddit page.

 

[evafiore]

Is that quote attributed to the victim and, if so, where is the link?

It's Re**it, so cannot be linked to. But if you click on what I've added you can find the entry by searching a bit through SB's page.

 

[otto]

SB wrote several blog style posts on Facebook called Notes - She also has a Reddit page.

Normally, when a quote is attributed to a victim, there's a link to the quote. Is there a link?

 

[otto]

It's Re**it, so cannot be linked to. But if you click on what I've added you can find the entry by searching a bit through SB's page.

If it can't be linked, doesn't that also mean that it can't be quoted?

 

[news.talk]

If it can't be linked, doesn't that also mean that it can't be quoted?

Without a link, does it make it untrue?

Obviously, most of the personal information on missing persons cases come from blogs and FB which can't be linked, which means we have to read them off this site.

 

[evafiore]

If it can't be linked, doesn't that also mean that it can't be quoted?

Not sure, that's a good question. I'm not familiar with the exact rules yet. Should I paraphrase it? And if anyone wants to see the true post they can go to SB's page?

 

[news.talk]

Not sure, that's a good question. I'm not familiar with the exact rules yet. Should I paraphrase it? And if anyone wants to see the true post they can go to SB's page?

How about this phrase instead... If anyone wants to sleuth, they may need to step outside MSM. Many clues to a person's disappearance can be found on their social-media.

 

[evafiore]

How about this phrase instead... If anyone wants to sleuth, they may need to step outside MSM.

Makes sense. Based on the already limited information on this case, it'd be a bit ludicrous to present and argue for certain conclusions based on the few shreds of information that can be gleaned from MSM, no? The keyhole is tiny as it is.

 

[news.talk]

Makes sense. Based on the already limited information on this case, it'd be a bit ludicrous to present and argue for certain conclusions based on the few shreds of information that can be gleaned from MSM, no? The keyhole is tiny as it is.

Considering that most twenty something's live their lives through social-media, and that many of them share *everything* that goes on in their lives... My son even Facebook's me from the other side of the house!

 

[otto]

Without a link, does it make it untrue?

Obviously, most of the personal information on missing persons cases come from blogs and FB which can't be linked, which means we have to read them off this site.

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[OutOfTheDarkness]

Makes sense. Based on the already limited information on this case, it'd be a bit ludicrous to present and argue for certain conclusions based on the few shreds of information that can be gleaned from MSM, no? The keyhole is tiny as it is.

No way. If LE or MSM says there is no illness or that they won't discuss it, then the person's own testimony is not relevant.

Perhaps a study of eyes or a layout of the co-op is a better avenue of investigation.

 

[evafiore]

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Thanks otto! I'll paraphrase it then, and if anyone has any objection to how I present it they can let me know. And if anyone wishes to see the actual post and get an unbiased view of her statement, they can. Just hope it's not ruled out because it can't be linked to, because it is, you know, still true and all.

**update---I can't edit the post anymore. Shall I contact a moderator and ask for it to be snipped?

**sent message to mod, snipped.

 

[news.talk]

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Also from your link:

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