CANADA - shooter in RCMP vehicle & uniform, 22 killed (plus perp), Portapique, NS, 18 April 2020 #3

  • #661
Yes, that seems so unjust and so unkind and uncompassionate.. he was so 'fortunate' to have survived, especially after someone bringing danger directly to his door, when he didn't even really know the couple well at all. And then.. everything everywhere is about the victims who died, and nothing at all about those who survived. You would think as a bare minimum, our government could've purchased the nearby properties if the residents no longer could stomach living there, and as a bare minimum, that our govt could have provided some kind of ongoing financial assistance, if they were unable to function in a job.

That’s a very valid point, iirc there was others who survived but were injured. The mandate of the Red Cross is to “help people and communities in Canada and around the world in times of need and support them in strengthening their resilience.” Whether it be the govt or the Red Cross, if financial assistance to survivors who struggle to get on with their lives is completely overlooked that sends an awful message as it insinuates only if they are dead are they significant. JMO

Maybe that failure has been acknowledged?

From that same link above -
“The issue of supporting survivors is one she raised at the Mass Casualty Commission examining the tragedy.”
 
  • #662
That’s a very valid point, iirc there was others who survived but were injured. The mandate of the Red Cross is to “help people and communities in Canada and around the world in times of need and support them in strengthening their resilience.” Whether it be the govt or the Red Cross, if financial assistance to survivors who struggle to get on with their lives is completely overlooked that sends an awful message as it insinuates only if they are dead are they significant. JMO

Maybe that failure has been acknowledged?

From that same link above -
“The issue of supporting survivors is one she raised at the Mass Casualty Commission examining the tragedy.”
Joudry wasn't even 'injured', at least physically.. but he was surely severely impacted. I'm not sure he got any financial supports, and if so, much of any financial support, since I get the impression he was fighting for some kind of compensation because his work benefits were to about to expire soon (but I'm not sure what work benefits he would've had, since I also got the impression he just kind of did his own thing?). It just kinda hit me after listening to him be interviewed, and after reading a bit more about him.. and then seeing photos of all the memorials left for the people who were killed... and all of the services for them, and such.. where did Joudry fit in with all of that? As it is, death can bring about so many different emotions.. but in his case, I can't imagine the realm of emotions.. because.. if he felt angry or left out or whatever, about not receiving enough/any supports, I can imagine he also very likely could've had feelings of guilt for feeling that way, when others close to him had died, unlike himself who was spared. Very awkward position for him. And who knows.. if he ever tried to talk those feelings out with anyone, did they say something like, 'well, at least you're still alive'? Which may have again, made it even worse for his emotions. Too bad (in a way) that we can't see how the monies were distributed. I have horrible feelings myself to deal with in just reading about this stuff, nowhere near the event, knowing nobody related to the event.. I can't imagine the hell of what some were/are going through when they were so close. I remember seeing real estate listings for some properties in that area, going for pennies (exaggeration). I take it from that, that no monetary compensation was given by government to buy up their properties in that section. imo.
 
  • #663
Commission criticizes RCMP for incident response:
"Our recommendations call for transformative change, they call for collaboration, they call for leadership," said Michael MacDonald, chair of the Mass Casualty Commission charged with overseeing the independent inquiry into the shooting.

The 3,000-page document outlines 130 recommendations that call for a fundamental change to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) to prevent a similar mass-casualty event from occurring in the future.

It criticises the RCMP for failing to address previous behaviour of the gunman, who was revealed to have been abusing his long-term partner for years.
 
  • #664
I think it is the anniversary today and yesterday, of the mass tragedy.
 
  • #665
I think it is the anniversary today and yesterday, of the mass tragedy.
Yes. Yesterday and today there was a province-wide moment of silence at noon. Buses and many motorists pulled over. All the flags are at half staff.
 
  • #666

‘Nova Scotia mass shooting: Ottawa and province announce $18-million mental health plan​

The federal and Nova Scotia governments rolled out an $18-million plan Friday aimed at helping people still suffering from mental health, grief and bereavement challenges three years after the worst mass shooting in Canadian history.​

By Michael MacDonaldThe Canadian Press
Fri., April 28, 2023timer4 min. read

HALIFAX - The federal and Nova Scotia governments rolled out an $18-million plan Friday aimed at helping people still suffering from mental health, grief and bereavement challenges three years after the worst mass shooting in Canadian history.
The announcement was in response to a public inquiry that released its final report last month into the tragedy in northern and central Nova Scotia, where 22 people were shot dead by a man disguised as a Mountie on April 18-19, 2020.
“This is just the beginning,” said Brian Comer, Nova Scotia’s minister responsible for addictions and mental health, who was joined at a news conference via video link by Carolyn Bennett, the federal minister of mental health and addictions. “We know we need to move quickly on this.”’
 
  • #667
January 14, 2026
''It started with a smile.
That’s how Lisa Banfield says she responded when a man waved at her from across a bar. As she was getting ready to leave, he approached her, and that was the moment she met Gabriel Wortman, who would carry out Canada’s deadliest mass shooting.

“He was tall, handsome … turtleneck, black leather jacket, black dress pants,” she said. “He had a nice, kind looking smile … I gave him my phone number.”

Banfield was Wortman’s common-law spouse for 19 years, in a relationship that began with hope and ended in horror. In April 2020, as she hid in the woods, he carried out a 13-hour rampage in Nova Scotia, at times driving a fake police cruiser.''

''The latest numbers from Statistics Canada show that in 2024, more than a quarter (28 per cent) of victims of violent crime were victimized by an intimate partner. Of those, nearly half (47 per cent) were living with the accused at the time of the violent incident.

Banfield says after that first assault, Wortman was so heartfelt in his apology that she thought it might be an isolated incident, but the violence continued, and he threatened her loved ones multiple times, saying things like “I know where your family lives, Lisa.”
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Lisa Banfield and Gabriel Wortman were together for nearly 20 years before he committed Canada's worst mass shooting. (CTV News)
 
  • #668
January 14, 2026
''It started with a smile.
That’s how Lisa Banfield says she responded when a man waved at her from across a bar. As she was getting ready to leave, he approached her, and that was the moment she met Gabriel Wortman, who would carry out Canada’s deadliest mass shooting.

“He was tall, handsome … turtleneck, black leather jacket, black dress pants,” she said. “He had a nice, kind looking smile … I gave him my phone number.”

Banfield was Wortman’s common-law spouse for 19 years, in a relationship that began with hope and ended in horror. In April 2020, as she hid in the woods, he carried out a 13-hour rampage in Nova Scotia, at times driving a fake police cruiser.''

''The latest numbers from Statistics Canada show that in 2024, more than a quarter (28 per cent) of victims of violent crime were victimized by an intimate partner. Of those, nearly half (47 per cent) were living with the accused at the time of the violent incident.

Banfield says after that first assault, Wortman was so heartfelt in his apology that she thought it might be an isolated incident, but the violence continued, and he threatened her loved ones multiple times, saying things like “I know where your family lives, Lisa.”
View attachment 637206Lisa Banfield and Gabriel Wortman were together for nearly 20 years before he committed Canada's worst mass shooting. (CTV News)

Thank you for posting that.

I understand the dynamics of abuse.
But she doesn’t own the choices she made in enabling the killer, imo. You can be the victim but also complicit in an abuser’s crimes, and she was when she illegally supplied the killer with ammunition used in the mass shootings. She admitted to convincing her brother and brother in law to also buy ammunition for him.

She also knew he couldn’t own firearms, but had many. And the replica RCMP vehicle was also clearly illegal, but she didn’t report it.

She was afraid of him and what he might do to her family, but crossed legal lines to provide him with ammunition?

Also, she was his business partner and spouse, where did she think all that mysterious income was coming from? The money the RCMP couldn’t trace?

I’ve tried to forgive her, but I find her appeals for sympathy exhausting considering the 22 people who were killed and the impact of what happened to our whole province.

She could have put her energy into speaking with the families of the victims who want answers, imo.
 
  • #669
  • #670
Some crimes cross the line of what is acceptable and should Not be allowed.
With book writing the story is one thing, but the editing... and the way they tell the story is another thing.
There are unanswered questions that people may have about a case like this one,
but lets see it for what it is.
 

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