Canada - Six dead in shootings at Mosque in Quebec City, 29 Jan 2017

[ZaZara]

A second man, Mohamed el Khadir, was previously identified by authorities as a suspect. He was taken into custody near the mosque and questioned, but Quebec Provincial Police said in a tweet Monday afternoon that he is no longer considered to be a suspect. He is now being called a witness.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexa...-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

While the court stated roughly at the same time that there were two suspects, one of them Khadir.

That was quick! and why?

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

The Latest: Police now say just 1 suspect in mosque attack

Quebec police now say just one of the individuals arrested in connection with Canadian mosque attack is considered a suspect, while the other man is considered a witness.

Police didn't say which one remains the suspect in the Sunday night attack which killed six people and injured more than a dozen others.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-trudeau-calls-mosque-shooting-terrorist-act-060148842.html

 

[dotr]

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...remain-in-critical-condition-following-attack

“I have no words to describe these cruel events that we condemn loudly this morning,” he said.

“We are devastated for the families, those close to the victims, for our Muslim community, our students, teachers and friends.”
The university will provide counselling to any student or staff member who feels they need to speak to someone, he said.
Brière expressed his condolences to members of the university community “who lost people close to them.”

On Facebook, the Centre Culturel Islamique de Québec, issued a statement on Monday morning.
It read, in part: “We were attacked because we are Muslim. Shot at point blank range because we are Muslims. Dead because we are Muslim.
“A scene of unspeakable brutality took place in front of dozens of Quebec citizens, including children. Gunfire, death, reloading of weapons, yelling, wounded people. Blood on the prayer rugs. A scene almost of war, hear, at home, in Quebec, our city known for its tranquility.”

 

[Elley Mae]

Quebec City police Insp. Denis Turcotte said the man who called 911 waited for officers to arrest him not long after the shooting at the Centre Culturel Islamique de Quebec in Quebec City’s Ste-Foy neighbourhood.

“He was armed and spoke to us about his acts,” said Turcotte. “He seemed to want to co-operate….The suspect said he was waiting for the police to arrive.”

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...remain-in-critical-condition-following-attack

 

[katydid23]

So the Christian guy was shouting Allhu Akbar ? :thinking:

 

[eucalyptuz]

This new release that the second man taken in to custody is merely a witness explains the scarcity of info released by police. I think Canadian police are a lot more cautious in releasing information before the full facts are known. I would rather spend a day in the dark then focus the intense scrutiny of the world on a person whose involvement is not understood or verified. The naming of the 'wrong name' has happened in several cases in the US and these people really go through the wringer...and perhaps never really feel peace again.

 

[dotr]

Heads up..
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...ted-after-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html

The Star initially reported the names of the men given to the paper by the court clerk, but is now removing them until it becomes clear who remains a suspect in police custody.

There was a flurry of police activity on Monday morning at an apartment a few blocks from the mosque where one of the men had been renting a room in a basement. But officers left the residence around 11 a.m. without having searched his room.

The owner of the building told the Star that police told him they didn’t have the proper authorizations to search the room and that they would contact him if they obtained the proper authorizations from a judge.

rbbm

 

[eucalyptuz]

So the Christian guy was shouting Allhu Akbar ? :thinking:

I think it is possible that those fearing death may have been shouting it in prayer...
Or perhaps the shooter was being callously ironic...

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/01/29/des-coups-de-feu-dans-un-mosquee-de-sainte-foy

Les policiers ont arrêté l’auteur présumé de la fusillade qui a fait 6 morts, dimanche soir, à la grande mosquée de Québec, dans Sainte-Foy. Il s’agit d’un jeune homme de 27 ans, Alexandre Bissonnette.

translated


The police arrested the alleged perpetrator of the shooting, which left six dead on Sunday night at the Grand Mosque in Quebec City, Sainte-Foy. It is a young man of 27 years, Alexandre Bissonnette.

Bissonnette a été interrogé par les policiers et demeure sous les verrous. On ignore le moment de son éventuelle comparution. Le suspect n'est pas connu des policiers. «Rien ne laisse croire qu’il y aurait d’autres suspects», a précisé la porte-parole Christine Coulombe, de la Sûreté du Québec (SQ).

translated

Bissonnette was interrogated by the police and remains under lock and key. The timing of his appearance is unknown. The suspect is not known to the police. "There is nothing to suggest that there are other suspects," said spokesperson Christine Coulombe of the Sûreté du Québec (SQ).

 

[Kamille]

This new release that the second man taken in to custody is merely a witness explains the scarcity of info released by police. I think Canadian police are a lot more cautious in releasing information before the full facts are known. I would rather spend a day in the dark then focus the intense scrutiny of the world on a person whose involvement is not understood or verified. The naming of the 'wrong name' has happened in several cases in the US and these people really go through the wringer...and perhaps never really feel peace again.

From what I can tell, it hasn't been determined which one is considered the suspect and which one is now considered a witness. Or at least that information has not been released. I'm assuming that it's the "word on the street" of the people who were at the scene of the shooting, or in the courthouse today, that is generating the information that it is AB who is the actual shooter? That coupled with the fact that he had all of the weapons in his vehicle when he surrendered?

:waitasec:

 

[Kamille]

So the Christian guy was shouting Allhu Akbar ? :thinking:

Wasn't it reported right at the beginning that the person had a french accent? I suppose information received from witnesses at the scene? So it possibly was AB shouting?

MOO

 

[njnewb]

'Allahu Akbar/God is great' is said loudly in prayer. Some Muslims also repeat it when death is imminent or they fear death. If it was shouted during the attack that isn't necessarily saying much...

The suspect may have even said it to mock them. Just speculating.

 

[eucalyptuz]

Wasn't it reported right at the beginning that the person had a french accent? I suppose information received from witnesses at the scene? So it possibly was AB shouting?

MOO

There has been so much misinformation printed about this shooting:
3 shooters, 8 dead, shooters were muslim etc
I am going to wait for the facts, but if I was a gambling person who was also a staunch advocate of Occam's razor, I would predict that it was NOT a muslim that shot up the mosque. I would predict that the shooter/s was/were Quebecois nationalists that in their crazy xenophobic heads have been inspired by new policies and events to the south...

 

[CoolJ]

One of two gunmen who shouted 'Allahu akbar!' as they opened fire at a mosque in Quebec City was of Moroccan origin, a witness and local media reported Monday, revealing the first details about the attackers in the massacre that killed six men.

The terror suspects were identified as Mohamed el Khadir and Alexandre Bissonnette, a court clerk told The Associated Press. The two men were arrested soon after the shooting at the Quebec Islamic Cultural Centre Sunday night and were expected to appear in court later Monday, police told reporters.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau condemned the attack, calling it a “terrorist attack on Muslims.” {<<<interesting---A terrorist attack on Muslims by a Muslim?]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/30/at-least-five-killed-in-shooting-at-quebec-city-mosque.html

Most terrorist attacks on this planet are against Muslims. This is why when I hear the term "Islamic terror" I wonder does it mean the victims are Islamic or the perp?

I don't see how anybody can deny this attack was an attack against Muslims. It happened at a mosque for pete's sake!

 

[Snick1946]

I wonder if police were loath to go with the idea, at lest publicly, that this was a hate crime inspired by anti Muslim prejudice. No one wants to see something like that take hold in society, but perhaps that is what this was.

Latest CBC news update:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686

CBC is withdrawing the names of the suspects pending confirmation. Note we are now being told that one of them is now considered as a witness, not a suspect. I wonder if the guy from Morocco was actually a witness who fled in panic? Some of this starts to make sense if you go there.

 

[CoolJ]

Nuance

Mohamed Khadir:

s “late 20s to early 30s.”
The other, Bissonnette, is reported as having a Quebec accent.
Both Khadir and Bissonnette are expected to appear in court January 30, police told reporters at a briefing.

Bissonnette had called police and fled from the mosque.

“he felt bad because of the gesture he had just made and was threatening to shoot himself.”

Laval University,

university is about five minutes away from the shooting scene.

school is the oldest French-language university in North America,

school has a “large Muslim community”

http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/moham...nada-terrorism-who-is-family-wife-girlfriend/

Alexandre Bissonnette:

27-year-old


17 Minutes After the Shooting, Bissonnette Called 911 to Say He Felt Guilty About What He’d Done & Wanted to Turn Himself In

Quebec native, told the 911 dispatcher he was going to shoot himself. About 8:45 p.m., he told police he wanted to be arrested.

public college in Quebec City. There are about 28,500 undergraduate students and 8,500

After calling 911, the suspected shooter parked his car, a Mitsubishi, on the Island of Orleans bridge, and officers from the Tactical Intervention Group arrived and took him into custody

feared the Mitsubishi may have been rigged with explosives.

wore masks,

One of the gunmen left the mosque to reload and came back. He then ran out of bullets a second time, reloaded and returned for a third round of shooting

previous hate crime incident at the mosque

everal CCTV cameras on the building.

mosque has about 5,000 members and is one of six in the Quebec City region

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likes the Facebook pages of U.S. President Donald Trump and French far-right leader Marine Le Pen, but he does not express support for them elsewhere on his page. Other likes include the Israel Defense Forces, United With Israel and Parti Québécois of Université Laval.

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Is that an American flag hanging behind his door?

 

[perfectingpink]

Is that an American flag hanging behind his door?

I think it is a towel. The edges have trim like a towel, anyway.

 

[kmclaren]

Is that an American flag hanging behind his door?

I thought it was just an orange striped towel...

 

[dotr]

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/7092795--a-very-very-big-tragedy-for-us-says-quebec-city-mosque-leader-after-attack-that-killed-six/

Half-mast

Adrian Wyld,The Canadian Press The flag flies at half-mast on a flag pole near the Peace tower Monday in Ottawa. It was announced Monday that the flag would fly at half-mast in memory of the victims of the Quebec City shooting.

QUEBEC &#8212; The victims of a mass shooting at a Quebec City mosque were fathers, businessmen, a university professor and others who had gathered for evening prayers, a Muslim community leader said Monday as he recalled through tears the horror of the attack that killed six and injured 19 others.

"It's a very, very big tragedy for us," said Mohamed Labidi, the vice-president of the Centre Culturel Islamique de Quebec, the mosque where the attack happened Sunday night. "We have a sadness we cannot express."
Labidi said the victims were shot in the back.
"Security at our mosque was our major, major concern," he said. "But we were caught off guard."

Majdi Dridi of the Muslim Association of Canada, said he knew two of the victims.

One was a work colleague who was a father of three little girls, he said.
"I don't know what to say, I just hope that his family and his children can have the patience to accept what happened," Dridi said.
Vigils are expected to be held in Montreal, Quebec City and Halifax later on Monday.

 

[Cryptic]

Wasn't it reported right at the beginning that the person had a french accent? I suppose information received from witnesses at the scene? So it possibly was AB shouting?

Though purely a technicality, the witnesses described the shooter as having a local Quebecois french accent.

This was probably in contrast to the other types of French accents that recent immigrants to the area would have. In order to keep it's French identity, Quebec has a preference for francophone immigrants and they probably speak French with a variety of non local accents.