CANADA Canada - Sonia Varaschin, 42, Orangeville, 29 Aug 2010 - #3

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  • #761
Thanks so much for the articles above. I also believe that Audrey had been watched or her killer knew of her daily habits. Same with Shelley and Sonia.
Far too many murders of women which remain unsolved. It’s a shame. :mad:

I agree. The level of violence that Sonia seemingly experienced has always made me wonder who the killer could have been. There didn't seem to be any indication of stalking, unwanted attention, interpersonal problems (outside of work conflict), yet her death appears to have been somewhat violent.

It's as if something either escalated or the killer targeted and attacked Sonia (much like Margaret McWilliams).

Did Sonia rebuff someones' advances? Sometimes it really is as simple as not responding to a comment in a way the commenter expects and suddenly you're being harassed!

IMO I don't think all three were killed by the same person.
 
  • #762
Sonia’s killer does seem much more violent than the one for AG and SL. That’s the only thing that makes me think twice about my theory. That said, I still feel that Audrey and Shelley are connected.
Why isn’t there more info about Sonia’s murder since it was so extremely violent? Moreover, where is the killer?
 
  • #763
Sonia’s killer does seem much more violent than the one for AG and SL. That’s the only thing that makes me think twice about my theory. That said, I still feel that Audrey and Shelley are connected.
Why isn’t there more info about Sonia’s murder since it was so extremely violent? Moreover, where is the killer?
Sadly Audrey's murder apparently was particularly brutal, it is interesting that that information, is freely given in AG's case, but seemingly only alluded to (pics of bloodied steps and car), in SV's murder, imo. rbbm.

''Hamilton Police are warning people to be vigilant after the “horrific” killing of a 73-year-old retired schoolteacher in Ancaster, Ont.

A veteran homicide detective described the murder of Audrey Gleave as horrendous, vicious and savage. “In the last 10 years I can’t think of one more vicious,” Staff Sgt. Steve Hrab said, adding that the woman’s killing stands out in the top 1 per cent of worst cases he has seen.''
 
  • #764
True dotr, but then PK seemed to indicate that it was somewhat violent ( my own wording ).
 
  • #765
Sadly Audrey's murder apparently was particularly brutal, it is interesting that that information, is freely given in AG's case, but seemingly only alluded to (pics of bloodied steps and car), in SV's murder, imo. rbbm.

''Hamilton Police are warning people to be vigilant after the “horrific” killing of a 73-year-old retired schoolteacher in Ancaster, Ont.

A veteran homicide detective described the murder of Audrey Gleave as horrendous, vicious and savage. “In the last 10 years I can’t think of one more vicious,” Staff Sgt. Steve Hrab said, adding that the woman’s killing stands out in the top 1 per cent of worst cases he has seen.''

Good point. Why are there so few details in Sonias case? I assumed her death was violent only based off photos and the amount of blood spoken of and seen in pictures. Whereas with Audrey, much more has been revealed (almost at a cost to the victims dignity IMHO).

Sonia was removed from her home and dumped, Audrey was left in her garage in a cold & indifferent manner, Shelly Loder survived her attack (just barely).

Curious to know if LE ever compared DNA from Margaret McWilliams to the DNA from SV? If not, when?!
 
  • #766
Do we know how Shelley is doing now? Is she able to help LE?
 
  • #767
Sorry -- am having trouble loading my message. Apologies for multiple postings! o_O
 
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Do we know how Shelley is doing now? Is she able to help LE?
That's such a great question, NSU; wouldn't it be wonderful if so. I recall that earlier updates on Shelley's condition (years ago) indicated she had no recollection of the attack/was not able to provide any info. In Oct 2019, this story at
ONTARIO COLD CASE: Is an arrest close in brutal attack of Shelley Loder?
reported, with update, that "About a month later, she was transferred to Headwaters hospital in Orangeville where she continued along her long road to recovery. Efforts to learn more about Loder’s condition today have been unsuccessful." (rbbm)

While I imagine there are very likely many occasions where a survivor's recovering memory is kept secret in order to protect the investigation -- and the survivor herself, of course -- I have resigned myself to the probability that, due to the extent of the trauma/injuries she sustained, Shelley isn't able to identify her attacker. Maybe in the end that's also protective of her (hopefully she doesn't have painful flashbacks, for example). Maybe that can or change over time. (If it has already, again, we've not been given any indication.)

The link to the 2019 article above is worth re-reading for the articulation that one tip from the public can break the case, and for re-visiting the artist sketch of a POI seen in the area at the time.
 
  • #769
No matter what, I still feel a connection to Sonia and Audrey with Shelley’s case.
 
  • #770
We're coming up to a miserable "anniversary" at the end of this month. I know LE wants to solve this case and see justice for Sonia as much as we want them to --
what will it take? Who has that key, that missing piece of the puzzle?
My word. Anyone in the public who has that bit of info that keeps wriggling away at them or, more substantively, may have evidence which they actively know could move this investigation along, MUST call it in. While I keep hoping the advancement of science (DNA tech) will give answers, I worry for various reasons we won't get them.
LE keeps telling us "the public" will play a role in closure. So: here's hoping someone will step forward. It's never too late. Now is a very, very good time.
 
  • #771
Every year when I flip the calendar to August, I think of Sonia. Where are the neighbours? Where is the DNA? Has every single stone been looked under? Please, someone knows something. Do the right thing.
 
  • #772
Jan 2020
"Sonia was targeted, however she may not have known who did this to her.''
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  • #773
Is this the first we know that "Sonia was targeted"? If so, have all of her male contacts been thoroughly investigated? If she was indeed targeted, by whom if she perhaps didn't know about the person? A colleague? A date? A neighbour? A casual acquaintance? A guy at her grocery store?
 
  • #774
random..Speculation, imo, fwiw.
Trying to understand this seeming contradiction of a ''cold-blooded'' killer, with someone who ''likely displayed specific and unusual behaviors'', ''and may have appeared either irritable or anxious''.
If someone was a cold-blooded killer, why would it even affect him afterward?

He may have been indifferent to the sight of blood though, he certainly seems to have made sure it was everywhere, imo, that is cold and bold and weird, apparently “In Canada this type of crime is highly unusual,
What country might this particular type of crime not be unusual?

Sonia was moved approx 8 miles from her home- why bother, that is cold ,weird and messy too, so why should he be anxious afterward?
How many people just get into a car that does not belonging to them, and drive off with it, blood and all? Car jackers?

rbbm,
Dec 16, 2010
''Pritchard said the killer is likely very familiar with the Orangeville area, particularly Beech Grove Sideroad in Caledon, where Varaschin’s remains were discovered on Sept. 5.

“He may be comfortable there,” Pritchard said.

The OPP investigator also said the killer likely displayed specific and unusual behaviours around the time of Varaschin’s murder, Aug. 29 and 30th and the day her remains were discovered.

Pritchard said this person may have had some unexplained absences from work or from other regular activities around that time. This person may have increased their use of alcohol and/or drugs and may have appeared either irritable or anxious.

Police also believe the killer may have moved away from the area recently and/or cut social interactions.

Pritchard wouldn’t paint a more specific picture for fear of eliminating potential suspects.''

''Pritchard described the person they’re looking for as “a cold-blooded killer” who targeted a “low-risk victim” and carried out a very disturbing and “high-risk” crime by attacking Varaschin in a close townhouse community and driving her blood-stained car to dispose of her body.''

''Detectives are still trying to determine if Varaschin knew her killer, or if he simply knew of her.
Pritchard said there’s no conclusive connection to a case of a woman attacked in her home near Orangeville last week.''

In Canada this type of crime is highly unusual,” Pritchard said in response to a question about the amount of resources dedicated to this case.''


Kim Phillips August 31st 2019 rbbm.
''That same day, police located her blood-stained car in an alley behind Orangeville town hall. They went to her townhome on Spring Street to investigate and described finding a horrific crime scene.

"I believe Sonia was targeted. Whether she knew who the killer was or not, I don't know that. But I do know that she was targeted," Glassford says.


Just days after her disappearance, Sonia's body was discovered in a ditch along Beech Grove Sideroad in Caledon, some 13 kilometres from her home.

Investigators say she was wrapped in blood-soaked bed sheets and dragged from her home.

Police recovered DNA evidence believed to belong to the killer, but so far there has been no match. Even so, Glassford says it's only a matter of time before they find the person responsible.
"[It's a] feeling I have. The investigators we have are very determined, very stubborn. I feel confident."
 
  • #775
random..Speculation, imo, fwiw.
Trying to understand this seeming contradiction of a ''cold-blooded'' killer, with someone who ''likely displayed specific and unusual behaviors'', ''and may have appeared either irritable or anxious''.
If someone was a cold-blooded killer, why would it even affect him afterward?

He may have been indifferent to the sight of blood though, he certainly seems to have made sure it was everywhere, imo, that is cold and bold and weird, apparently “In Canada this type of crime is highly unusual,
What country might this particular type of crime not be unusual?

Sonia was moved approx 8 miles from her home- why bother, that is cold ,weird and messy too, so why should he be anxious afterward?
How many people just get into a car that does not belonging to them, and drive off with it, blood and all? Car jackers?

rbbm,
Dec 16, 2010
''Pritchard said the killer is likely very familiar with the Orangeville area, particularly Beech Grove Sideroad in Caledon, where Varaschin’s remains were discovered on Sept. 5.

“He may be comfortable there,” Pritchard said.

The OPP investigator also said the killer likely displayed specific and unusual behaviours around the time of Varaschin’s murder, Aug. 29 and 30th and the day her remains were discovered.

Pritchard said this person may have had some unexplained absences from work or from other regular activities around that time. This person may have increased their use of alcohol and/or drugs and may have appeared either irritable or anxious.

Police also believe the killer may have moved away from the area recently and/or cut social interactions.

Pritchard wouldn’t paint a more specific picture for fear of eliminating potential suspects.''

''Pritchard described the person they’re looking for as “a cold-blooded killer” who targeted a “low-risk victim” and carried out a very disturbing and “high-risk” crime by attacking Varaschin in a close townhouse community and driving her blood-stained car to dispose of her body.''

''Detectives are still trying to determine if Varaschin knew her killer, or if he simply knew of her.
Pritchard said there’s no conclusive connection to a case of a woman attacked in her home near Orangeville last week.''

In Canada this type of crime is highly unusual,” Pritchard said in response to a question about the amount of resources dedicated to this case.''


Kim Phillips August 31st 2019 rbbm.
''That same day, police located her blood-stained car in an alley behind Orangeville town hall. They went to her townhome on Spring Street to investigate and described finding a horrific crime scene.

"I believe Sonia was targeted. Whether she knew who the killer was or not, I don't know that. But I do know that she was targeted," Glassford says.


Just days after her disappearance, Sonia's body was discovered in a ditch along Beech Grove Sideroad in Caledon, some 13 kilometres from her home.

Investigators say she was wrapped in blood-soaked bed sheets and dragged from her home.

Police recovered DNA evidence believed to belong to the killer, but so far there has been no match. Even so, Glassford says it's only a matter of time before they find the person responsible.
"[It's a] feeling I have. The investigators we have are very determined, very stubborn. I feel confident."
I'm asking myself, why the killer took the risk of carrying and transporting Sonia from her home to Beech Grove Sideroad. Can we assume, he had a connection to her living situation/house/home and if she would be found there dead, he feared, he would be considered as a perpetrator (one of a few)?
It could have been someone, who just wanted to view Sonia's apartment to be able to make an offer for a restoration job. NOT someone, who did the job already.
Do we know, if the gazebo-men were seen on previous or later surveillance video as well or only THIS morning after the murder? As we have seen, they were walking away from the gazebo - do we know, if they were picked up by a car afterwards? Which cars were seen (by LE) on surveillance video, fitting exactly the location and time, when the men walked across the square early in the morning? Somehow they must have left the area.
The Beech Grove Sideroad - is it a road, also motorbikers would prefer, using it often? Or is the road no attraction to motorbikers at all (getting to a well-known destination perhaps)? It doesn't help to look at maps, as I would do.

The case won't let go of me .... :(
 
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Caledon is not far from Mono.

The straight distance between Mono (Ontario) and Caledon (Ontario) is 14.26 mi, but the driving distance is 20.73 mi. It takes 23 mins to go from Mono to ...
 
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Could this killer be someone Sonia knew from her nursing career or from her working with pharmaceuticals?
 
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