Canadian hostage, wife & children freed from Afghanistan, husband arrested for abuse, Oct 2017 #2

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/boyle-trial-sept-10-1.5278371 Sept 10

Boyle denies drugging estranged wife against her will

Boyle said on Nov. 5, 2017, his wife was having a panic attack. He said in response he looked online and saw his prescription could be used to deal with anxiety, and offered Coleman some of the medication while she was taking a shower.

Boyle told the Crown he was unsure what dosage he gave Coleman or if she took the pills he left in the bathroom.

On Tuesday, Crown lawyer Jason Neubauer accused Boyle of forcing her to take the drug to sedate her and to make her do what he wanted.
"You're just making this all up Mr. Boyle," Neubauer said. "Mr. Boyle you can clearly see Ms. Coleman was suffering the effects of the medication. Her demeanour wasn't normal."

Boyle said he was the victim of physical and emotional abuse from his wife and she repeatedly demanded sex from him; saying that her appetite had grown since leaving captivity.

 

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Ex-Taliban hostage tells court he hit wife with broom handle because ‘she enjoyed it’
Joshua Boyle states he beat Caitlyn with a broom because she enjoyed it and he grew tired of beating her. He also states she embarrassed him because she didn't shower enough.

Imo, she must have been fearful of removing her clothes because she lived with HIM.

 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/boyle-trial-sept-10-1.5278371 Sept 10

Boyle denies drugging estranged wife against her will

Boyle said on Nov. 5, 2017, his wife was having a panic attack. He said in response he looked online and saw his prescription could be used to deal with anxiety, and offered Coleman some of the medication while she was taking a shower.

Boyle told the Crown he was unsure what dosage he gave Coleman or if she took the pills he left in the bathroom.

On Tuesday, Crown lawyer Jason Neubauer accused Boyle of forcing her to take the drug to sedate her and to make her do what he wanted.
"You're just making this all up Mr. Boyle," Neubauer said. "Mr. Boyle you can clearly see Ms. Coleman was suffering the effects of the medication. Her demeanour wasn't normal."

Boyle said he was the victim of physical and emotional abuse from his wife and she repeatedly demanded sex from him; saying that her appetite had grown since leaving captivity.

Caitlyn was pregnant and had 2 very young children, one of whom they admitted screamed constantly after their release from capitivity, yet her sexual appetite for HIM was immense and over demanding.

Yeah, right. rofl

When does he go on trial for trying to get Caitlyn to solicit underage girls on an internet forum for him?

 

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Ex-hostage Joshua Boyle demanded wife lose weight as means of control: prosecutor Sept 11

Neubauer pointed to a list Boyle apparently prepared that set out weight-loss goals of about 2 1/2 pounds a week -- targets the prosecutor said she had to meet or be chastised.

Under cross-examination, Boyle said the pair had pestered each other for years to lose weight and the targets were just proposals for negotiation, with no punishment for failing to meet them.

"We had both discussed our weights since at least 2007."

The answer failed to satisfy Neubauer. "What right do you have to enter into a negotiation with your wife about how much she should weigh?"

Neubauer questioned why Boyle would care about Coleman's weight loss if he were pursuing a divorce. "This presented you with a tangible, subjective way to assert your control over her," he said.

Boyle said he didn't much care about Coleman's weight, noting neither of them had expectations they would actually shed pounds after a decade of nagging one another.

 

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Ex-hostage Joshua Boyle demanded wife lose weight as means of control: prosecutor Sept 11

Neubauer pointed to a list Boyle apparently prepared that set out weight-loss goals of about 2 1/2 pounds a week -- targets the prosecutor said she had to meet or be chastised.

Under cross-examination, Boyle said the pair had pestered each other for years to lose weight and the targets were just proposals for negotiation, with no punishment for failing to meet them.

"We had both discussed our weights since at least 2007."

The answer failed to satisfy Neubauer. "What right do you have to enter into a negotiation with your wife about how much she should weigh?"

Neubauer questioned why Boyle would care about Coleman's weight loss if he were pursuing a divorce. "This presented you with a tangible, subjective way to assert your control over her," he said.

Boyle said he didn't much care about Coleman's weight, noting neither of them had expectations they would actually shed pounds after a decade of nagging one another.

Ummm she lost probably 50+ lbs while in captivity, but he had no expectation she would shed pounds after a decade of nagging each other? What is he talking about?

 

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I'd like to stand in the courtroom and applaud Newbauer. He's probably the only person to ever confront Joshua Boyle with the ugly truth about his evil, warped behavior.

 

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I'd like to stand in the courtroom and applaud Newbauer. He's probably the only person to ever confront Joshua Boyle with the ugly truth about his evil, warped behavior.

agreed.
IMO, reading the articles and tweets each day recounting his testimony I find with each answer JB gives the Crown Attorney the more ridiculous his testimony is. Utter BS.

 

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court docket showed JB trial continuation today and he was supposed to finish up with his testimony but I can't find any tweets or articles regarding what happened today.

 

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In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage Sept 12

In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage

Following his arrest on a raft of assault and sexual assault charges, Boyle was held in custody for more than five months. He was granted bail in June 2018.

“I seem to be a hostage again. Caitlan appears to be the reason again,” Boyle wrote in the letter, dated Jan. 21, 2018, read in court Thursday.

“Not that I’m angry,” Boyle continued in his letter, “but I’m sure you’ve wondered how things managed to go so belly-up in Afghanistan.“

Boyle told court Thursday, his final day of testimony, that at the time the letter was written he was closer to Coleman’s parents, Lynda and Jim, in Pennsylvania than to his own.

In cross-examination, Crown attorney Jason Neubauer suggested to Boyle that he had written the letter to ingratiate himself with the Colemans and to manipulate them into pressing their daughter to drop the charges.

Boyle rejected that idea, testifying that the letter was written to let the Colemans know that no matter what happened, it would not change his deep affection for them. “I had been relying on them for advice for 11 years,” he told court. “I was closer with them than my own parents.”

Neubauer repeated his suggestion that Boyle was “buttering up” the Colemans so that they would ask their daughter to retract her allegations.

In his seventh day on the witness stand, Boyle also revealed that he officially filed for divorce from Coleman after the birth of their fourth child. Boyle said Coleman “ducked service” of those divorce documents three times, forcing him to get an order of substituted service.

Neubauer closed his cross-examination late Thursday, and the defence is not expected to call any more evidence.

 

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Andrew Duffy@citizenduffy Sept 13, 2019

Former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle has completed his testimony after seven days on the witness stand during which he told a markedly different story than his estranged wife. Final arguments are expected late this month.

 

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In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage

Court has heard extensive testimony from both Boyle and Coleman. Both testified that their relationship was deeply troubled and highly volatile, but that’s about all the two have agreed upon.

To hear Coleman tell it, Boyle was a violent and controlling husband who tricked her into traveling to Afghanistan, confined and abused her in captivity, then beat and sexually assaulted her upon their return to Ottawa.

To hear Boyle tell it, he was an altruistic and caring husband who was doing his best to manage the violent fits of his mentally ill wife while carrying the burden of caring for their three children, all of whom were born in captivity.

In his testimony, Boyle has described himself as a once aspiring war correspondent, and as a masochist and stoic who still sleeps on the floor.

 

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In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage


To hear Boyle tell it, he was an altruistic and caring husband who was doing his best to manage the violent fits of his mentally ill wife while carrying the burden of caring for their three children, all of whom were born in captivity.

Wouldn't any reasonable man held in captivity with a wife he considered mentally-ill, and whom he intended to divorce, have refrained from impregnating her again even once, let alone twice more?

 

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In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage Sept 12

In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage

Following his arrest on a raft of assault and sexual assault charges, Boyle was held in custody for more than five months. He was granted bail in June 2018.

“I seem to be a hostage again. Caitlan appears to be the reason again,” Boyle wrote in the letter, dated Jan. 21, 2018, read in court Thursday.

“Not that I’m angry,” Boyle continued in his letter, “but I’m sure you’ve wondered how things managed to go so belly-up in Afghanistan.“

Boyle told court Thursday, his final day of testimony, that at the time the letter was written he was closer to Coleman’s parents, Lynda and Jim, in Pennsylvania than to his own.

In cross-examination, Crown attorney Jason Neubauer suggested to Boyle that he had written the letter to ingratiate himself with the Colemans and to manipulate them into pressing their daughter to drop the charges.

Boyle rejected that idea, testifying that the letter was written to let the Colemans know that no matter what happened, it would not change his deep affection for them. “I had been relying on them for advice for 11 years,” he told court. “I was closer with them than my own parents.”

Neubauer repeated his suggestion that Boyle was “buttering up” the Colemans so that they would ask their daughter to retract her allegations.

In his seventh day on the witness stand, Boyle also revealed that he officially filed for divorce from Coleman after the birth of their fourth child. Boyle said Coleman “ducked service” of those divorce documents three times, forcing him to get an order of substituted service.

Neubauer closed his cross-examination late Thursday, and the defence is not expected to call any more evidence.

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He's implying that Caitlyn was the reason he was taken hostage in Afghanistan? He was the person who took pregnant Caitlyn into that very dangerous area so he could try to support the "misunderstood" Taliban and become a famous war correspondent.

Lock him up!

 

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Wouldn't any reasonable man held in captivity with a wife he considered mentally-ill, and whom he intended to divorce, have refrained from impregnating her again even once, let alone twice more?

No kidding. Lets add 3 times to that. He still wanted to divorce her after they were released and back home, so after returning to Canada in mid October she is pregnant again about 2 months later in December.

1 year into their captivity he wanted a divorce...

"By late 2013, more than a year into their captivity, Boyle said he had become so dismayed that he announced his intention to seek a divorce whenever they were freed.

“She had disappointed my expectations,” he said."
Joshua Boyle testifies he shouldered most child-care responsibilities

He said he wanted to divorce her after their release but he hadn't...WHY?

"In answer to a question from Neubauer, Boyle said he stayed in the marriage despite Coleman’s failings so that the children didn’t associate freedom with losing a parent. “They had spent five years hearing about the mythical world of no prison. They deserved to enjoy it without additional trauma thrust upon them,” he said."

Boyle said he was going to start off taking separate vacations...EYE ROLL..how considerate of him.

 

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He's implying that Caitlyn was the reason he was taken hostage in Afghanistan? He was the person who took pregnant Caitlyn into that very dangerous area so he could try to support the "misunderstood" Taliban and become a famous war correspondent.

Lock him up!

Yup, He said during cross examination the kidnappers told him that she had said some blasphemous things the day before at a guest house so they kidnapped them the next day.

JB also said he didn't blame his wife for the 5 years of captivity, how gracious of him EYE ROLL again.

Now, if I'm not mistaken he also said, in one of the post release interviews, JB said that they were kidnapped because she was heavily pregnant.

Here are some quotes regarding this

"Former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle says his abductors told him that Caitlan Coleman’s loud blasphemy in a Kabul guesthouse led to their kidnapping one day later.

Boyle told court that, during their stay in a Kabul guesthouse in October 2012, Coleman had a fit during which she said allegedly blasphemous things “quite loudly and quite dramatically.”

"I was not very angry at her over it,” he testified. “I recognized that it was not intentional on her part, and she had no ill intent and certainly didn’t deserve what happened as a result. “

Boyle said he was angry at himself for overestimating Coleman’s ability to control her emotional outbursts while in Afghanistan. He also conceded he had underestimated the danger to which they’d be exposed in the war-torn country."


Joshua Boyle testifies he doesn't blame wife for their capture in Afghanistan

 

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In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage

The smirk on his face outside the courtroom is sickening. Does he expect to be acquitted?

 

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No kidding. Lets add 3 times to that. He still wanted to divorce her after they were released and back home, so after returning to Canada in mid October she is pregnant again about 2 months later in December.

1 year into their captivity he wanted a divorce...

"By late 2013, more than a year into their captivity, Boyle said he had become so dismayed that he announced his intention to seek a divorce whenever they were freed.

“She had disappointed my expectations,” he said."
Joshua Boyle testifies he shouldered most child-care responsibilities

He said he wanted to divorce her after their release but he hadn't...WHY?

"In answer to a question from Neubauer, Boyle said he stayed in the marriage despite Coleman’s failings so that the children didn’t associate freedom with losing a parent. “They had spent five years hearing about the mythical world of no prison. They deserved to enjoy it without additional trauma thrust upon them,” he said."

Boyle said he was going to start off taking separate vacations...EYE ROLL..how considerate of him.

“She disappointed my expectations”. Welcome to marriage, bud. Lol.

Anyway, that sounds extremely manipulative. He does a great job of sounding like a d-bag.

 

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In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage

The smirk on his face outside the courtroom is sickening. Does he expect to be acquitted?

Yes, he does IMO. Let’s not forget his dad is a judge.

 

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In letter to Coleman's parents, Boyle says she twice made him a hostage

The smirk on his face outside the courtroom is sickening. Does he expect to be acquitted?

Yes, I agree it is and I think he does.

Putting aside his post release media interviews etc and other articles I have read about him, I am focusing on his testimony on the witness stand and IMO (based on the reporting) he did not come across as a caring, loving husband but quite the opposite and sinister as well.

 

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Yes, I agree it is and I think he does.

Putting aside his post release media interviews etc and other articles I have read about him, I am focusing on his testimony on the witness stand and IMO (based on the reporting) he did not come across as a caring, loving husband but quite the opposite and sinister as well.

I have a hard time understanding how someone cant see how sinister, calculated, and manipulative he is, but based on my time on this thread, I guess he is able to fool some people.