Canadian hostage, wife & children freed from Afghanistan, husband arrested for abuse, Oct 2017 #2

[Satchie]

This is not 50 shades of gray. 50 shades of gray is fan fiction about two CONSENTING adults engaged in BDSM.

I disagree, Fifty Shades is not about BDSM by mature consenting adults, it's about the emotional domination of a naive, psychologically submissive girl by a creepy and controlling sadist. When she finally, out of love, lets him beat her, she hates it so much she leaves him.

Edit: whereas, in real life, the Ana's of this world don't leave.

 

[Intermezzo]

Tomorrow is the day.
I won't be able to post about the verdict until I get home from work late tomorrow evening.


Verdict expected in trial of former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle DEC 18, 2019

Verdict expected in trial of former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle

Ontario Court Justice Peter Doody is scheduled to deliver his verdict in the case Thursday morning.

In doing so, Doody will have to decide who is telling more of the truth, Coleman or Boyle, since they’ve presented wildly different accounts of the same events.

During final arguments, the judge expressed some exasperation with that task: “How am I supposed to decide what to believe and what not to believe?” Doody asked rhetorically.

 

[Satchie]

Tomorrow is the day.
I won't be able to post about the verdict until I get home from work late tomorrow evening.


Verdict expected in trial of former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle DEC 18, 2019

Verdict expected in trial of former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle

Ontario Court Justice Peter Doody is scheduled to deliver his verdict in the case Thursday morning.

In doing so, Doody will have to decide who is telling more of the truth, Coleman or Boyle, since they’ve presented wildly different accounts of the same events.

During final arguments, the judge expressed some exasperation with that task: “How am I supposed to decide what to believe and what not to believe?” Doody asked rhetorically.

Too bad the court can't convict someone of being a total #%/;;?:&€, I think that verdict would be guaranteed.

 

[otto]

Boyle found not guilty on all counts.

"A judge has dismissed charges against former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle, who had been accused of assaulting his wife Caitlan Coleman.

Ontario Court Judge Peter Doody says the Crown failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Boyle, 36, committed multiple offences against Coleman, including assault, sexual assault and unlawful confinement."​

Former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle found not guilty on all 19 charges
Former Afghanistan hostage Joshua Boyle found not guilty on all counts

This doesn't surprise me. I have wondered if these accusations were related to the goal to remove his children from Canada without a proper custody hearing.

 

[rjay]

Oh g*d no!

 

[Stunned]

Oh g*d no!

WTH! Will he now have rights to his children?

 

[otto]

The next step is family court and access to his children.

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

What a repulsive world we live in.

 

[otto]

There were 19 charges. Judge dismissed them on the basis of Coleman's dishonesty and admitted memory issues. There were reliability issues with Coleman, and credibility issues with Boyle.

I'm surprised that public opinion is that Coleman is credible and the courts are wrong.

 

[Satchie]

The next step is family court and access to his children.

Her next step may be to appeal.

 

[otto]

Her next step may be to appeal.

In the interim, he should spend time with his children. As it stands, false claims were the basis for removing the children from the country. Without the false claims, all custody and access issues are in question.

 

[MsJosie]

I am very disappointed. I would not be surprised to find him skip town with the kids.

 

[otto]

I am very disappointed. I would not be surprised to find him skip town with the kids.

Skip town to where?

 

[Stunned]

I am very disappointed. I would not be surprised to find him skip town with the kids.

Yup, hide their passports.

 

[nuff]

IMO, the problem is that the charges arose from that single incident, and unfortunately, the judge felt that they did not meet a criminal standard of proof. Unlike the UK, Canada does not yet recognize coercive control as a criminal offence. (For example, the judge described JB's infamous list of demands as circumstantial evidence, when that list is clearly evidence of a longstanding pattern of behaviour.)

Mercifully, the children and their passports are safely in the US for now. I wonder if JB would even be granted entry given his history?

 

[Stunned]

IMO, the problem is that the charges arose from that single incident, and unfortunately, the judge felt that they did not meet a criminal standard of proof. Unlike the UK, Canada does not yet recognize coercive control as a criminal offence. (For example, the judge described JB's infamous list of demands as circumstantial evidence, when that list is clearly evidence of a longstanding pattern of behaviour.)

Mercifully, the children and their passports are safely in the US for now. I wonder if JB would even be granted entry given his history?

Probably will!

 

[bears10]

What a shame. Very disappointing.

Are the kids currently in the US? What if CB doesn’t return to canada for the custody case, or if she doesn’t return with the kids in general? My only experience with custody is one with both parties within the same state, actually, even the same county, and even that was complicated.

 

[bears10]

Just a reminder what a narcissistic Joshua Boyle is... bringing his pregnant wife to Afghanistan (in hopes of joining the taliban for sure) at a time when so many men and women his age were also willingly going to Afghanistan, except with completely opposite intentions than JB. And how many of those well meaning, patriotic soldiers didn’t get their choice of flying home on a US aircraft vs a Canadian aircraft. Because they died in Afghanistan.

imagine being so pathetic that even the taliban doesn’t want you??

 

[Stunned]

What a shame. Very disappointing.

Are the kids currently in the US? What if CB doesn’t return to canada for the custody case, or if she doesn’t return with the kids in general? My only experience with custody is one with both parties within the same state, actually, even the same county, and even that was complicated.

I think international custody is much worse. I honestly would go into hiding. I doubt our government will help, but there must be an underground movement.

 

[Stunned]

What a shame. Very disappointing.

Are the kids currently in the US? What if CB doesn’t return to canada for the custody case, or if she doesn’t return with the kids in general? My only experience with custody is one with both parties within the same state, actually, even the same county, and even that was complicated.

I think international custody is much worse. I honestly would go into hiding. I doubt our government will help, but there must be an underground movement.