Casey & Family Psychological Profile #1

[Meagain]

Here's my psychological profile/theory on Casey....

Maybe she's just plain Bat-sh*t crazy and an a-hole.

 

[sharpar]

It's usually inaccurate if you come up with a theory based on all the possibilities for who the father is; so in your imagination you dig up the most insidious scenario without any supporting facts besides the idea that "it could have happened that way".

That kind of reasoning isn't productive in finding the truth.

The strongest interpersonal dynamic was that Casey truly loved Jesse, and Jesse didn't want Caylee even if she was his child. They argued over it for two years, with Casey vehemently opposing him for wanting Caylee to disappear from their relationship.

That is the strongest real motive I have found so far. And Casey consistently wanted to keep Caylee.

Quote: "LE did not ignore her - they did try and validate her story - the woman
herself is saying they didn't investigate but they interviewed her
I think more than once - she just didn't get the attention she obviously
wanted regardless of what she claims."

Don't interview the woman who told the story, find the woman from North Carolina. An easier way to see if the story is real is to ask the Anthony family if Caylee usually introduced herself as Cayleemarieantiny, all one word. The woman who told the story could not know that. She only reported what she heard.

And it was Jesse who wanted Caylee to disappear. I didn't know that until I learned it from TV on Saturday, a repeat of an earlier show...

I dont think Casey loves anyone, I dont see any evidence of concern for anyone in her life - she loved him by cheating and lying to him ? - what has been said by friends was that Cindy insisted Casey have Caylee .
Jesse I believe is like alot of young fathers - not wanting to be one
at such a young age but once Caylee was here he seemed to form
an attachment to her and wanted to marry Casey even when he knew
he was not the father . Jesse is being thrown under the bus unfairly
in my opinion

I believe LE made a serious attempt to find the woman and that
child . We dont know for sure if they did or not as they arent
releasing all the evidence . They have said all sightings were bogus

 

[Boots-OK]

You're kidding. Those tips turned out to be ridiculous. Even Cindy agreed the Airport one (Wanda) was BS. And, even Cindy said in the interview Jesse wanted to be a father to Caylee and cared for her. Add to that all the supporting information about Jesse - and for you to still go there is flat out odd and suspect to me.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[JohnVaughanCauthen]

On Nancy Grace it was very clearly reported that Jesse didn't want Caylee.

 

[JohnVaughanCauthen]

He went to the hospital as soon as she was born to try to prove she wasn't his child. He tried to be a father for two years because he wanted Casey, but he really wanted Caylee to go away.

Jesse has a brother who was connected with the police and with the missing children part of it.

Ultimately, I believe their purpose is to pass strict laws that allow them to take children away from parents for very slim reasons. Maybe they think they are protecting the children; so they have this goal and purpose to use cases like this as an excuse to further their aims. The authorities connected with missing children were part of the JonBenet debacle, where evidence and witnesses who didn't fit their purposes were ignored.

They might even look for cases like this to exploit. That is why my suspicion is raised when I hear that Jesse wanted to get rid of Caylee and that he had a brother who was connected with the missing children department of the police.

The brother could have talked, and people higher up heard it and realized they could make his problem go away and use this to create another national spectacle to further their aims for stricter laws over parents they consider bad parents. This case was perfect to further their purposes.

It's sort of like using 911 to take away our rights as Americans.

They could have done things like plant a decomposition odor in the car, but why couldn't they find any DNA? They can now get DNA from contact with a surface, but there was no DNA. They could plant very pure chloroform giving it an Agatha Christie flair, and hire super body guards, find the right nanny who replaced the regular nanny and then the nanny is able to completely disappear from the picture. Casey referred to the nanny in phone conversations ("I am playing phone tag with Zani") whom the authorities say doesn't exist. Was Casey so delusional that she talked about someone who didn't exist when arranging dates?

You can't call Casey that delusional, but you can say the authorities did things just like that in the JonBenet case.

 

[sharpar]

It sounds you have had a hell of a time *hugs*. Personality disorders are so sad for the silent victims- the children who are born to mothers "suffering" from them.

OLG - thank you for the hug - it was no picnic but I am fine with a loving father to balance out the insanity loving grandparents and extensive therapy - sister too
We both have lovely grown up children - so all the dysfunction stopped
with us .

Wingnuts crapola has been exposed, dealt with in the courts and
has been put in the past. Its over now . Sister and I are looking
forward - grandchildren , retirement and senior discounts are
in our future not the wingnut .

I am hoping that KC doesnt destroy her families entire lives and they
too find resolution . It is possible but it takes alot of effort and
hard work and of course oodles of time .

 

[Meagain]

On Nancy Grace it was very clearly reported that Jesse didn't want Caylee.

You are flat wrong. And given how the shows have focused so MUCH on him wanting to care/father her, you seem to be purposefully leaving that out and skewing this.

He suggested adoption in the beginning because NEITHER was ready for a child. When that was nixed, he was prepared to do the right thing and wanted to be a father to her as well as marry Casey. Apparently that was going to go through till Casey screwed him over.

EVEN CINDY said that in the video interview. She said it. Your obvious attempt to discredit or paint Jesse in this light is suspect at best. Minimally, it goes against everything we've been seeing & reading in the documents AND TV shows.

 

[JohnVaughanCauthen]

That was reported on Nancy Grace on Saturday. He and Casey had a two-year argument. He didn't want Caylee and she did.

He tried to want Caylee after she was born. Yet, by that time he had DNA to say Caylee wasn't his child. He did want Casey, and he spent two years trying to take care of and love Caylee, so that he could have Casey for reasons that are obvious, but he wanted Caylee to go away. That is why she referred to Caylee as "the snot-head". She was appeasing him. He didn't want Caylee and didn't think Caylee was even his child.

Quote, "He suggested adoption in the beginning because NEITHER was ready for a child."

Now we have a witness who says the child had been adopted by someone in North Carolina, a witness that has no reason to lie but is being ignored.

The person who suggested adoption was Jesse. Casey loved Jesse very much. Maybe his will was eventually done. But now Casey is talking like she feels betrayed, and fearful for her child, who she believes is alive but she doesn't know where.

 

[Meagain]

They might even look for cases like this to exploit. That is why my suspicion is raised when I hear that Jesse wanted to get rid of Caylee and that he had a brother who was connected with the missing children department of the police.

The brother could have talked, and people higher up heard it and realized they could make his problem go away and use this to create another national spectacle to further their aims for stricter laws over parents they consider bad parents. This case was perfect to further their purposes.

It's sort of like using 911 to take away our rights as Americans.

They could have done things like plant a decomposition odor in the car, but why couldn't they find any DNA? They can now get DNA from contact with a surface, but there was no DNA. They could plant very pure chloroform giving it an Agatha Christie flair, and hire super body guards, find the right nanny who replaced the regular nanny and then the nanny is able to completely disappear from the picture. Casey referred to the nanny in phone conversations ("I am playing phone tag with Zani") whom the authorities say doesn't exist. Was Casey so delusional that she talked about someone who didn't exist when arranging dates?

You can't call Casey that delusional, but you can say the authorities did things just like that in the JonBenet case.

You are now saying Jesse and his brother not only took Caylee but also planted DNA in order to prove a point and help laws get passed. Did they also kill Zani? You're not even making sense. If they took Caylee, of course they'd have DNA accessible to plant in the car. LOL WTH.

Dude, you are scaring me. Are you OK? I'm honestly asking if something is wrong with you. Medically. You don't have to tell me, I'm just really concerned.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Here's my psychological profile/theory on Casey....

Maybe she's just plain Bat-sh*t crazy and an a-hole.

hahha. I like you!

 

[Boots-OK]

That was reported on Nancy Grace on Saturday. He and Casey had a two-year argument. He didn't want Caylee and she did.

He tried to want Caylee after she was born. Yet, by that time he had DNA to say Caylee wasn't his child. He did want Casey, and he spent two years trying to take care of and love Caylee, so that he could have Casey for reasons that are obvious, but he wanted Caylee to go away.

Not to be rude JVC - but, IMO your remarks belong in the parking lot. What are you doing posting in Psychological Profiles? Secondly, no links = no info!

 

[kiki the parrot]

Woa I sign off for a few hours and return to find this thread's taken a rather dark turn. To OneLost: you are brave to be so transparent and as sad as some of it makes me I deeply appreciate insights you shared. It saddens me first to know you and your child have been on such a tough journey but what matters now is the wisdom you've gained--many are incapable of learning from their own mistakes, much less from others--so they, and their children, are doomed to repeat them. Second, I'm saddened to realize many well-intentioned parents, ironically in what would seem their efforts to presumably build their child's self-esteem are actually setting their children up for such feelings of failure (to some extent I may be inadvertently guilty of this very thing, so thanks for enlightening me). I'm saddened though too at the wild accusations flying around, frankly some people are tripping. Sad that, before knowing the facts, so many seem anxious to assume Casey intentionally murdered her child (I see evidence to the contrary). Also I wanted to suggest that when Casey insists during interview that, "if she had wanted to be free of Caylee, she would've just left and given custody to CA," my instincts tell me we all operate on more than one level, and that some in particular prefer or opt to do things in a passive aggressive manner. Again I don't believe she consciouslymeant harm to Caylee. When she and CA argued on Father's Day though technically Casey is refusing to leave Caylee there, pretending (mostly to herself) that she was prepared to provide another home for Caylee, insisting that SHE will maintain guardianship. But those are just legalities. If subconsciously she resented Caylee (and her remarks seem to indicate she was) in some passive way by neglecting to keep her child safe, in reality this isn't what she was ultimately doing.

Tx Some (if not most or even all) of the hooker/escort websearches could conceivably have been (and reportedly were) GA's.

Manny FYI re seizures I only had one or two grand mal seizures in my late teens (much later as an adult I developed TLE) but my mother was never aware (since these were associated with drug use). Not sure about CA, but there's interestingly an association between temporal lobe epilepsy and bipolar disorder which could possibly explain some of manic behaviors (shopping, spending, stealing, sexing) her daughter was exhibiting.

Debs There is total enmeshment going on there alright, but we have no evidence nor is it fair to make this kind of allegation against GA (this isn't the first thread I've seen this made); nor should Casey be let off the "hook" for the thousands she reportedly drained. I agree there may have been a secret Casey could hold over GA but IMO it's more likely just what's widely reported to have been affairs (online or otherwise) that threatened to end the marriage. I think having no idea WHICH of your many lovers (at 18 when you actually have your parents believing you are a virgin) is the father of your "illegitimate" child is reason enough for Casey to have lied and denied her pregnancy, particularly if she was initially contemplating abortion. I also don't think Casey was "given" her ailing grandfather's trust fund as hush money, nor Amy's checkbook, any more than I believe after Casey racked up her credit cards that CA would've ultimately kicked Casey out--for ROBBING Grandpa's retirement fund which is what the heated argument, overheard on Father's Day, was all about.

JVC I personally agree with OneLost that Jesse was one of the more positive influences in Casey's life. He impressed me as a forthright, very compassionate person who clearly loved Caylee from everything he and others have said. (Even his father was involved in her caregiving and brought to tears while recounting the time they spent with her and couldn't even bring himself to speak of her loss.) FYI I think there's a whole thread for conspiracy theories but I for one am not prepared to take on the FBI, OCSO Crime Lab, University of Tennessee, along with every witness who was knocked over by the odor of decomp in Casey's car. But I gotta nice bridge I'd love to sell you...j/k...lol

 

[JohnVaughanCauthen]

I am saying this is starting to look exactly like the JonBenet case.

People who are much higher up than Jesse or his brother are doing the manipulating, ignoring witnesses and causing people such as the nanny to mysteriously appear and then not exist. Jesse got connected with them through his brother, who was connected with missing children.

Quote: "When she and CA argued on Father's Day though technically Casey is refusing to leave Caylee there, pretending (mostly to herself) that she was prepared to provide another home for Caylee, insisting that SHE will maintain guardianship."

And now there is a witness who says Caylee has another home.

The perfect deal between Casey and Jesse would have been Caylee is provided another home, Casey has some rights to Caylee.

Casey loved Jesse. Jesse said he wanted Caylee adopted. The witness testimony fits what Casey said and what Jesse wanted.

If they had the decomp odor, they should have been able to come up with some corresponding DNA, otherwise the odor from any human decomposition could be planted, by people who are as sophisticated as the ones I accuse, but those people couldn't plant Caylee's DNA.

 

[kiki the parrot]

JVC: "On Nancy Grace it was very clearly reported that Jesse didn't want Caylee."

Woa...were you watching the same show as me... it was clear this young man accepted Caylee as his own even AFTER learning he had been LIED to and he actually wasn't.

 

[kiki the parrot]

This is gettin kinda scary [starting to wonder if this isn't JMK (John Mark-Karr) trolling as JVC, oh dear...] Sorry gotta sign off for now this is all a bit much, for-rizzle

 

[sharpar]

Here's my psychological profile/theory on Casey....

Maybe she's just plain Bat-sh*t crazy and an a-hole.

works for me

 

[softsoul]

I'm with ya!!

IMO the "Y-generation-20-something-it's-all-about-me-everyones-a-celebrity" culture has a lot to do with the fact that they have always been made to feel they are so much more special then everyone else. If a kid can throw a ball, his mom tells him he will pitch for the major leauges. If she is in honors classes she is told her whole life that she is a genius.

She's on the Honor roll (she's so smart!), modeling classes (so beautiful!), softball (sports minded!), cheerleading (beautiful AND sports minded!) and she got accepted into that school we told you about- she is going to be a lawyer! plus wow, look at this picture she painted today- isn't she amaaazing?" *puuurr*.

That's so damaging to children because what happens when she fails at one of those things- who's she gonna be then? Those are the only things her own parents refer to her as!

Why do people do that to their kids?!

Wow, wouldn't I love to know that. I get sick of seeing all the parents constantly in competition with each other about whose child does what better. As the Buddha said, "Ego, this gigantic devil, has caused troubles for many lifetimes. Remember this great enemy; exterminate it quickly." If you want to listen to someone cut to the quick on this issue listen to the audio "Wake Up to Life" by Fr. Anthony De Mello. Ego has caused a lot of pain and you need not look past Casey's behavior to see that.

 

[JohnVaughanCauthen]

Just go by the facts, even if they lead to bizarre places.

Things Casey has said, which are called delusional lies, were correlated by a witness: who is being ignored just like witnesses and evidence was ignored in the JonBenet case. Jesse has said he wanted Caylee adopted. Casey has said she was prepared to provide another home for Caylee. The witness says Caylee was adopted, but now Casey has been betrayed, which is how she is acting right now. She is acting disgusted and betrayed. Just the facts. All those facts correlate. Forget how you feel, just go by the facts.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Woa I sign off for a few hours and return to find this thread's taken a rather dark turn. To OneLost: you are brave to be so transparent and as sad as some of it makes me I deeply appreciate insights you shared. It saddens me first to know you and your child have been on such a tough journey but what matters now is the wisdom you've gained--many are incapable of learning from their own mistakes, much less from others--so they, and their children, are doomed to repeat them. Second, I'm saddened to realize many well-intentioned parents, ironically in what would seem their efforts to presumably build their child's self-esteem are actually setting their children up for such feelings of failure (to some extent I may be inadvertently guilty of this very thing, so thanks for enlightening me). I'm saddened though too at the wild accusations flying around, frankly some people are tripping. Sad that, before knowing the facts, so many seem anxious to assume Casey intentionally murdered her child (I see evidence to the contrary). Also I wanted to suggest that when Casey insists during interview that, "if she had wanted to be free of Caylee, she would've just left and given custody to CA," my instincts tell me we all operate on more than one level, and that some in particular prefer or opt to do things in a passive aggressive manner. Again I don't believe she consciouslymeant harm to Caylee. When she and CA argued on Father's Day though technically Casey is refusing to leave Caylee there, pretending (mostly to herself) that she was prepared to provide another home for Caylee, insisting that SHE will maintain guardianship. But those are just legalities. If subconsciously she resented Caylee (and her remarks seem to indicate she was) in some passive way by neglecting to keep her child safe, in reality this isn't what she was ultimately doing.

Tx Some (if not most or even all) of the hooker/escort websearches could conceivably have been (and reportedly were) GA's.

Manny FYI re seizures I only had one or two grand mal seizures in my late teens (much later as an adult I developed TLE) but my mother was never aware (since these were associated with drug use). Not sure about CA, but there's interestingly an association between temporal lobe epilepsy and bipolar disorder which could possibly explain some of manic behaviors (shopping, spending, stealing, sexing) her daughter was exhibiting.

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I snipped parts..

I was finally diagnosed with Bipolar disorder and have been in treatment now for 6 years. My life is very different now, I am very different now. I am making sure that the nasty trail of disfunction will not repeat itself- my son is being raised very differently than I was. At 14 I already see the differences in who he is (his morals, values, the way he treats people, etc) than who I was at that age.

Anyway- back to the case at hand- I also do not think Casey planned out the killing of her child.. To be honest if not for the dogs hitting in the yard and trunk and the body farm results from the trunk of the car, I would still be thinking she was simply hiding Caylee from her mother out of spite.

 

[softsoul]

JVC- stay on topic please. Take it on down the road with anything other than Casey's psych profile. Thank ya.