Casey & Family Psychological Profile #1

[kiki the parrot]

Quote by SammieSam: 'Russell, that was fantastic. I totally agree with every word.

(ETA - The context in which i discuss love in the following instances, is one where I refer to the outward actions and behaviour of the person who loves, ie positive reinforcement, either verbally or by givening material rewards - think puppy training but for people)

If the object of the "unconditional love" feels as if they would recieve that "love" no matter what the circumstances or how they behave, how can that "love" have any value? If child that is loved "unconditionally" regardless of behaviours and attitudes, how does the child learn to act in a way that promotes healthy, loving relationships? When "love" equals "anything goes" then that would also include verbal and physical violence, mental abuse and many other negative behaviours, all of which are not loving at all. Ergo, "unconditional" love does NOT promote an atmosphere which is condusive for healthy self-esteem and truely loving relationships. JMHO of course!

I would also love to hear your ideas on self-esteem. You are one smart cookie!'

SSam I think you, like Knot4u2No aka Russell, are in dire need of a new, and better working definition of love. You are distorting and taking out of context obviously confusing LOVE w APPROVAL. A parent's love shouldn't have to be "earned." And further a parent's unconditional love CONSISTENTLY sets limits or boundaries, will ALWAYS correct and if needed eventually discipline ("Every father who loves his child will chasten him") but above all without fail will seek to RESTORE a relationship. Not quite sure how many children or grandchildren you've raised either but if I didn't know any better I'd think you two had read the same magazine article...

 

[future criminologist]

I have a long time interest in mental illness. I grew up in the era when the play "The Bad Seed" was a broadway success. Everyone was afraid of their children and "The Three Faces of Eve" made life even spookier.

But I will tell you right now there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that mental illnes is a development caused by a relationship. Babies may be born autistic but not mentally ill.

There are many reasons for mental illness. I'm just going to speak off the cuff here. One that has concerned me is that parents often carry a vibration that is psychologically damaging to their child. I was once at an ashram and the guru told one young man that his vibration could kill his infant son. I know full well that a college professor living in my building in nyc used to hum passages of classical music and his vibration was damaging to his daughter who had to 'duck' her mind to avoid the result hence although exceedingly bright she walked around like a slow and somewhat deranged young woman while her brother went off to Harvard. There were other dynamics in the family as well as of the mother perceiving her daughter as a threat and competion for her husbands attention. I also know that an epileptic boy was having seizures because of the way his mother called his name in a very piercing wobbly high pitched voice. And I know of another man also damaging his infant causing in fact a brain turmor by his vibrational penetration. These people and there are many of them can be attractive professional people totally unaware of what they are doing (though that needs more investigation) and go to great lengths to 'help' their child.
So the public always sees the wonderful parent and the tragedy of his or her life due to a 'sick' child.

So mental illness is also adaptation for survival. There is no one mentally who does not know right from wrong or where the nearest fire exit is in case of an emergency. It is a fine line and the ones society fears are the ones who harm others.

Most young children lie at some time or other to avoid punishment. Lying is definately a problem but the real problem is 'why' she lied ...it is what is going on underneath...that is where the real emotions are. because if you do not address those needs you will never solve the problem. You will never achieve turst or intimacy.

Not punishing a person for doing wrong makes that person crazy. (see Thomas Szaz). If an person steals once and gets away with it, they will steal again, and justify it to themself and then do it again till it becomes like a disease tasking over...hence a lifestyle is formed...a terrible one for it is a sickness and the person finds themself unabe to stop it. And when they are confronted they are smothered with love and cookies, cars and c ell phones credit cards, computers and tv's and hugs and told they are a great heroic friend. i'm sorry but very few children will pull themselves out of that one and confront their mother on her lack of moral fiber! Especially a child who is totally smothered and disabled by her mother and overprotected.

A child..a person needs space and time in order to see their own self. And they also ned accountability. When I say space and time I mean 'alone time within a structured setting'.

I think Casey's lying mimics her mothers rational. I think it is creative and free flowing and gives her mother exactly what she wants to hear. Cindy wants to hear it and i don't think she wants to hear anything else. So why would her daughter NOT lie to her? it is in fact a psychological intimacy that Casey has with her mother.

I will bet that after Casey wipes out her mother's bank account Cindy after an initial rage falls to her needs so to speak for forgiveness for her attachment to money and lends her daughter more money. Isn't that what has been happening? who gives their credit card to someone you've just called a sociopath without a future and a pathological lier free access to all their money to allow them to take a vacation with a child you have raised???

Who is mentally ill here? Just because Cindy hasn't robbed a bank does not make her sane. Nor do we know that Casey killed her child. We have a freaked out irrational Nancy Grace worried there are masked men with choloform hqnkies hiding behind closed doors ready to steal her twins. She doesn't even know how she is causing fear and then frightening her own self.

I don't know if Casey is curable at this point. With her mother and the way things are going No I don't think so , not one darn bit. And as long as Cindy needs lies from her daughter, as long as she cannot accept the truth Casey will never tell it. And i think Casey needs to be behind bars and away from her mother. i think prison is a far better place for this kind of mental illness because the mental illness creedo is to exonerate people from responsibility for their thoughts. In other words..."I'm mentally ill, I can't help it...and if my mind is ill how can i possibly help myself."

If Casey actually killed her daughter then no one wants her around in this world anymore. But if it was a careless reckless accident due to not paying enough attention then I would not want her to go away for life..a sufficient amount of years up to twenty would do. That is overkill enough.

There are some conditions that parents provide which no child can escape unharmed from. It may not be intentional abuse nor obvious abuse but society ..teachers, educators, neighbors friends need to be able to recognize the signs and some system needs to be set up so that confrontation and help is allowed. Everyone has free choice and a choice for help must come from within but if there are more mirrors set up more information and stwandards put out there as to whqt is acceptable then such children as Casey who have been 'diabolical liers' all of their life won't fall through the cracks before it is too late.

Why didn't Cindy find help for her child?

She is guilty of neglect and enabling. Does she know right from wrong when she can be so right and moral one moment and an outright lier the next.

I really think you are confusing mental illness with personality disorders. Mental illness, in the sense of mood and thought disorders, are almost always genetic and certainly related to brain chemistry. Environment and stress in one's life can definitely be a trigger for these disorders to come out, but a person is usually biologically pre-disposed to it.

 

[Knot4u2no]

Quote by SammieSam: 'Russell, that was fantastic. I totally agree with every word.

(ETA - The context in which i discuss love in the following instances, is one where I refer to the outward actions and behaviour of the person who loves, ie positive reinforcement, either verbally or by givening material rewards - think puppy training but for people)

If the object of the "unconditional love" feels as if they would recieve that "love" no matter what the circumstances or how they behave, how can that "love" have any value? If child that is loved "unconditionally" regardless of behaviours and attitudes, how does the child learn to act in a way that promotes healthy, loving relationships? When "love" equals "anything goes" then that would also include verbal and physical violence, mental abuse and many other negative behaviours, all of which are not loving at all. Ergo, "unconditional" love does NOT promote an atmosphere which is condusive for healthy self-esteem and truely loving relationships. JMHO of course!

I would also love to hear your ideas on self-esteem. You are one smart cookie!'

SSam I think you, like Knot4u2No aka Russell, are in dire need of a new, and better working definition of love. You are distorting and taking out of context obviously confusing LOVE w APPROVAL. A parent's love shouldn't have to be "earned." And further a parent's unconditional love CONSISTENTLY sets limits or boundaries, will ALWAYS correct and if needed eventually discipline ("Every father who loves his child will chasten him") but above all without fail will seek to RESTORE a relationship. Not quite sure how many children or grandchildren you've raised either but if I didn't know any better I'd think you two had read the same magazine article...

The New Testament Bible clearly instructs Christians to follow/obey man’s laws if they are not in direct conflict with God’s law, and to do so meticulously, including paying taxes and all penalties of the law, praying for the leaders of the land and following supervisors as though they were Jesus, unless there is a clear conflict with God’s law. I understand that your definition of unconditional love is not unconditional love, but if you want to introduce the Bible into Casey’s case, there are conditions imposed by God for all humans, including Casey, which are the same regardless of how many children they have had. As all such posts, these are my personal opinions.

Russell

 

[OneLostGrl]

My niece was very much the same way as your 5 year old. Diagnosed as a sociopath at 10 but it was obvious from the day she could talk. They put her on Abilify (it's for schizophrenics but they used it off label) because the psychiatrist said it showed promise on another patient and we were besides ourselves with what to do with the situation. The difference is like night and day. It worked for her. Might want to look into it.

it wasn't me that ask the question though so I'm not sure why you quoted my post.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Even in the Bible there is no forgiveness without repentance, and forgiveness does not mean no restitution and no penalty under the law.

Regarding love and Casey, “healthy love” teaches adaptive lessons of life and living (i.e., what to do and what not to do). Such love is full of differential (i.e., selective and appropriate) reinforcement and punishment, both positive and negative – i.e., accurate and instructional warnings, reproofs, and corrections, as well as earned praise, due comfort, and progressive encouragement. On the other hand, “unconditional love” teaches not only that there is no difference between right and wrong, it gives the so-called loved one no accurate feedback related to skills or abilities and a very poor start for developing good critical thinking skills or social values, much less making appropriate value judgments (i.e., risk and opportunity management based on adaptive self-esteem). One can operationalize these concepts by defining “adaptive” as independently exercising rights and meeting corresponding responsibilities, and defining “maladaptive” as violating rights or not meeting responsibilities. Appropriate types and amounts of positive reinforcement (gain of pleasure/comfort) and negative reinforcement (decrease in pain/discomfort) would follow improved performance and adaptive efforts (e.g., praise, early recess) and would NOT follow maladaptive behaviors. To the degree necessary, negative punishment (i.e., a decrease in pleasure/comfort, generally called time-out from positive reinforcement) would follow maladaptive behavior (e.g., temporary loss of privilege), and ultimately, if necessary, positive punishment (the addition of pain/discomfort) would follow maladaptive behavior (e.g., the addition of work). Note that the first rule for healthy love is to FIRST stop all types of positive and negative reinforcement for maladaptive behavior, and then START positive and negative reinforcement for adaptive behavior. Without reinforcement (positive or negative), the behavior will not develop or exist long. Keep in mind that there are many types of “unhealthy love,” including unconditional reinforcement or punishment, misguided reinforcement or punishment, and pathological reinforcement or punishment. Unconditional love provides no structure or direction; misguided love ignorantly strengthens and weakens the wrong behaviors; and, pathological love intentionally strengthens and weakens the wrong behaviors. In any case, intentional or not, the positive or negative reinforcement of maladaptive behavior is just as destructive as the positive or negative punishment of adaptive behavior. Casey’s learning history consists of a combination of her overt/external learning environment and her covert/internal learning environment (the domain of her imagination). I think it is important to keep in mind that Casey has been actively reinforcing herself in both of these learning environments and her self-love is both unconditional and pathological, but not misguided ... she knows exactly what she has done and is doing. Just my personal opinions base on her public behavior.

Russell

I agree, agree and agree!

Speaking of her public behavior- have ya heard Casey is now "blogging" online? Nothing about the case or her missing child, mind you, but about her dislike of Nancy Grace and the like.

I'd like to spit in her face, for real!

 

[debs]

The New Testament Bible clearly instructs Christians to follow/obey man’s laws if they are not in direct conflict with God’s law, and to do so meticulously, including paying taxes and all penalties of the law, praying for the leaders of the land and following supervisors as though they were Jesus, unless there is a clear conflict with God’s law. I understand that your definition of unconditional love is not unconditional love, but if you want to introduce the Bible into Casey’s case, there are conditions imposed by God for all humans, including Casey, which are the same regardless of how many children they have had. As all such posts, these are my personal opinions.

Russell

I am not sure why this topic has taken this tangent, but if the directive "Love one another." is not enough, nothing ever will be. This thread is not about that, however. This thread is about a psychological profile of Casey Anthony.

 

[OneLostGrl]

he was dx with sever adhd, bi-polar, mild retardation disorder (which I dont believe to be true), ptsd, reactive attachment disorder, andd reactive speech disorder.

I'd go to a new doc for a whole new eval.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Quote by SammieSam: 'Russell, that was fantastic. I totally agree with every word.

(ETA - The context in which i discuss love in the following instances, is one where I refer to the outward actions and behaviour of the person who loves, ie positive reinforcement, either verbally or by givening material rewards - think puppy training but for people)

If the object of the "unconditional love" feels as if they would recieve that "love" no matter what the circumstances or how they behave, how can that "love" have any value? If child that is loved "unconditionally" regardless of behaviours and attitudes, how does the child learn to act in a way that promotes healthy, loving relationships? When "love" equals "anything goes" then that would also include verbal and physical violence, mental abuse and many other negative behaviours, all of which are not loving at all. Ergo, "unconditional" love does NOT promote an atmosphere which is condusive for healthy self-esteem and truely loving relationships. JMHO of course!

I would also love to hear your ideas on self-esteem. You are one smart cookie!'

SSam I think you, like Knot4u2No aka Russell, are in dire need of a new, and better working definition of love. You are distorting and taking out of context obviously confusing LOVE w APPROVAL. A parent's love shouldn't have to be "earned." And further a parent's unconditional love CONSISTENTLY sets limits or boundaries, will ALWAYS correct and if needed eventually discipline ("Every father who loves his child will chasten him") but above all without fail will seek to RESTORE a relationship. Not quite sure how many children or grandchildren you've raised either but if I didn't know any better I'd think you two had read the same magazine article...

More like text books. LOL

 

[kiki the parrot]

Knot4u2no It's not that deep... and you misunderstood, again as I never said we were free from man's law (we are subject to every principality) but was referring to GRACE to fulfill GOD's law. But I am honestly not into striving about the law with you or Sammie semantics (ditto Debs, my remarks and only intent was to shed light on Casey's troubled psyche). Besides K4u2, your argument really isn't w me anyway.

 

[Susanlee]

Gotta agree. This is fantasy stuff...denial stuff...dismissing, discounting, ABSOLUTELY ignoring everything but the improbable...coming from...? I wonder.

I agree. Only way to deal with this sometimes, for me at least, is throw a little humor in an otherwise very strange situation. ther_beatingA_Dead (banging head against wall, lol!)

 

[Susanlee]

:laugh:

What is so funny? My post was VERY, VERY serious! Now my feelings are hurt, Lol.

 

[JohnVaughanCauthen]

Quote: This is fantasy stuff...denial stuff...dismissing, discounting, ABSOLUTELY ignoring everything but the improbable...coming from...? I wonder.

You must be talking about me, and wondering where I came from.

But everything you said was the opposite of what I have done. I went purely by the facts, not denying anything, not dismissing anything like they did in the JonBenet case where they dismissed the fact that the ransom note was a one-to-a-million match that it was John Mark Karr's handwriting; then that was dismissed and discounted. Many people still say the Ramseys did it, in the face of a one-in-a-million match, which is a good as evidence gets. The authorities now say the Ramseys didn't do it. But the authorities couldn't find the ones who did it, though they had smoking gun evidence.

I don't want the same thing to happen in this case. I want the truth to come out.

Now, IWannaKnow saw the woman on the plane with Caylee.

If Jesse wanted to have Caylee adopted, and Casey loved Jesse, and a woman saw Caylee on a plane with a well-to-do woman, you've got a three-point match that a well-to-do woman adopted Caylee.

If that's the case, everything Casey did and is doing now makes perfect sense. You are trying to convict Casey for going to parties and being a fun girl, which is why someone wanted to wrongly convict the Ramseys. JonBenet was being a pretty girl, her evil parents were parading her at beauty pageants. Casey is being portrayed in the same way: an evil girl who parties hardy. I personally don't fault her for that, but her mother said tonight on Nancy Grace that Casey spent every night but one or two sleeping at home. That surprised me. She's not even really a party girl.

She loved Jesse. He didn't want Caylee. An adoption was arranged, and hence all the secrecy, misdirection, and lies. At the time of the big lies Caylee was alright and Casey knew it, so she had no reason to be concerned.

The woman on the plane with Caylee causes everything that has happened to make perfect sense. When you add that fact, Casey is not evil or crazy. So let's add that fact very publicly and see what happens.

 

[debs]

Quote: This is fantasy stuff...denial stuff...dismissing, discounting, ABSOLUTELY ignoring everything but the improbable...coming from...? I wonder.

You must be talking about me, and wondering where I came from.

But everything you said was the opposite of what I have done. I went purely by the facts, not denying anything, not dismissing anything like they did in the JonBenet case where they dismissed the fact that the ransom note was a one-to-a-million match that it was John Mark Karr's handwriting; then that was dismissed and discounted. Many people still say the Ramseys did it, in the face of a one-in-a-million match, which is a good as evidence gets. The authorities now say the Ramseys didn't do it. But the authorities couldn't find the ones who did it, though they had smoking gun evidence.

I don't want the same thing to happen in this case. I want the truth to come out.

Now, IWannaKnow saw the woman on the plane with Caylee.

If Jesse wanted to have Caylee adopted, and Casey loved Jesse, and a woman saw Caylee on a plane with a well-to-do woman, you've got a three-point match that a well-to-do woman adopted Caylee.

If that's the case, everything Casey did and is doing now makes perfect sense. You are trying to convict Casey for going to parties and being a fun girl, which is why someone wanted to wrongly convict the Ramseys. JonBenet was being a pretty girl, her evil parents were parading her at beauty pageants. Casey is being portrayed in the same way: an evil girl who parties hardy. I personally don't fault her for that, but her mother said tonight on Nancy Grace that Casey spent every night but one or two sleeping at home. That surprised me. She's not even really a party girl.

She loved Jesse. He didn't want Caylee. An adoption was arranged, and hence all the secrecy, misdirection, and lies. At the time of the big lies Caylee was alright and Casey knew it, so she had no reason to be concerned.

The woman on the plane with Caylee causes everything that has happened to make perfect sense. When you add that fact, Casey is not evil or crazy. So let's add that fact very publicly and see what happens.

Wow. I have one word for you: decomposition. Please fit that FACT into this theory. Thank you.

 

[JohnVaughanCauthen]

The decomposition odor was so strong, the tow truck driver thought a dead body was still in the car, in a plastic bag that was in the trunk. He was relieved when the bag was light and empty.

That may be too strong to be residue from a body having been in the car as short a time as possible, if Casey transported Caylee to bury her.

They checked everywhere Casey had been by her cell phone, and there were no dead bodies.

Casey knew the odor was in the car, and that it was obvious. She had the fight with her father over going to the trunk of the car. She abandoned the car. How many cars that transported dead bodies have been abandoned because of the odor? The odor was too strong, as if the odor had been planted.

Once, my mother accidentally left a dead goose in her SUV for a week. I wouldn't drive the car because of the odor, but she drove it everywhere and didn't seem to mind. Other people hardly noticed. So I guess if you want everyone to know there is a decomposition odor in a car, you have to make it too obvious to be from the actual fact of transporting and burying a dead body.

Everything hinges on the woman who said she saw Caylee going to North Carolina. If she is telling the truth, then some people very high up have been lying and framing people.

 

[Sammiejam]

Quote by SammieSam: 'Russell, that was fantastic. I totally agree with every word.

(ETA - The context in which i discuss love in the following instances, is one where I refer to the outward actions and behaviour of the person who loves, ie positive reinforcement, either verbally or by givening material rewards - think puppy training but for people)

If the object of the "unconditional love" feels as if they would recieve that "love" no matter what the circumstances or how they behave, how can that "love" have any value? If child that is loved "unconditionally" regardless of behaviours and attitudes, how does the child learn to act in a way that promotes healthy, loving relationships? When "love" equals "anything goes" then that would also include verbal and physical violence, mental abuse and many other negative behaviours, all of which are not loving at all. Ergo, "unconditional" love does NOT promote an atmosphere which is condusive for healthy self-esteem and truely loving relationships. JMHO of course!

I would also love to hear your ideas on self-esteem. You are one smart cookie!'

SSam I think you, like Knot4u2No aka Russell, are in dire need of a new, and better working definition of love. You are distorting and taking out of context obviously confusing LOVE w APPROVAL. A parent's love shouldn't have to be "earned." And further a parent's unconditional love CONSISTENTLY sets limits or boundaries, will ALWAYS correct and if needed eventually discipline ("Every father who loves his child will chasten him") but above all without fail will seek to RESTORE a relationship. Not quite sure how many children or grandchildren you've raised either but if I didn't know any better I'd think you two had read the same magazine article...

Hmmm, ok. I did not mean to imply that children need to "earn" love, I was referring ONLY to a very limited amount of actions that are truely loving and not the entire scope of agape love. Approval and love are different concepts that are intertwined. You can love someone without approving of their behaviour, giving blanket approval due to "unconditional" love is a disservice to the beloved. Some people do not understand the distinction, believe CA to be one of those people. That is the only point I wanted make...

(OFF TOPIC but to answer your question -

I don't believe I have a distored view of love at all, quite the opposite in fact.

I have raised 2 sons on my own (my husband died when I was 19), they are have turned out to be good lads. Both of them are serving in the Australian Armed Forces. I was young when I had them, had no terms of reference for "good parenting" (long story - very disfunctional parents and was in the foster care system by the time I was 11) but all I knew was that I LOVED those boys more than anything. I also realised that I could not allow that love to stop me from letting them feel the concequences of their actions or excuse bad behaviour (although my first instinct was to protect them from ANY sort of pain or hurt, and I thought their every move was totally adorable). I have not read any articles or text books on the subject of agape love and the role it plays in good parenting, I was just stating my opinion, and my admiration for knot4u's intelligent and well thought out post.)

 

[raregem]

Last night I was listening (not watching) to NG . I heard Cindy speaking in an interview and thought it was Kc talking. I had to do a double take when I realized it was Cindy not Kc speaking. The wording, inflections and mannerisms took me off guard. At this point I am seeing Kc in Cindy and Cindy in Kc.

 

[Betty Boop]

Last night I was listening (not watching) to NG . I heard Cindy speaking in an interview and thought it was Kc talking. I had to do a double take when I realized it was Cindy not Kc speaking. The wording, inflections and mannerisms took me off guard. At this point I am seeing Kc in Cindy and Cindy in Kc.

I was thinking the same thing. That fine line between the two of them is very blurred. I think of it as seeing/hearing enmeshment in action. Where does one end and the other begin? Hard to tell. So sad that this is just a public display of what has been going on for years in private.

 

[passionflower]

Dr Drew was on the view today with a lady that was a 'sex addict'..........abused by dad......sounded like CA.....from man to man,
no feelings, just sex.........lady said it got kinkier and kinkier.
She would meet a guy and just go have sex with him. I wish I had a link to
this mornings THE VIEW. Lady was "full of rage".........with parents that never protected her. Just MO to help understand this mess.........

 

[IWannaKnow]

Whoa, whoa, whoa Nelly....................JohnVaughanCauthen............you have misinterpreted my post. I AM NOT THE WOMAN WHO SAW CAYLEE (or some little girl like her) on the plane to N.C. . I am simply a nut who felt the need to add her 2 cents on the why/how did Casey get this way. I never stated I saw Caylee on the plane. Hell, I haven't even been on a plane in almost three years. Sorry to cause you the confusion, but, Dude, you got the wrong girl. :waitasec: I wish I was her cause that would mean Caylee is alive, but I don't personally believe that to be the case, IMO.

No, my point was close to what passionflower was commenting on: "Dr Drew was on the view today with a lady that was a 'sex addict'..........abused by dad......sounded like CA.....from man to man,
no feelings, just sex.........lady said it got kinkier and kinkier.
She would meet a guy and just go have sex with him. I wish I had a link to
this mornings THE VIEW. Lady was "full of rage".........with parents that never protected her. Just MO to help understand this mess......... ". I agree completely, passionflower. That was exactly the point I was trying to make.

You really have to shut the "feeling, caring" parts of you off when you have been abused this way. That was my point. Sorry JVC.

 

[Knot4u2no]

Profiling Casey
by Russell w/intro by Editor


Full article: click here

The following interpersonal guidelines for interviewing Casey are based on the BRACE Character Profile already generated. It is simply a matter of using the color coded correlation charts to locate the appropriate Personality Disorders and matching them to the corresponding role playing scripts, which for Casey includes, in rank order: Histrionic, Narcissistic, and Borderline Personality Disorders. No interpretation or analysis of the graphics and charts is required.

The “good cop – bad cop” role playing scripts are essentially what-to-do and what-not-to-do interpersonal guidelines based on the subject’s personality characteristics. Generally, there should be one outstanding “good cop,” but there may be one composite “bad cop” or several “bad cops”. Of course, hostage negotiators would generally want to follow the “good cop” guidelines and to specifically avoid relating as a “bad cop.”

1. KEEP IT SAFE
2. KEEP IT LEGAL
3. PROVIDE PROTECTIVE AND SUPPORTIVE STRUCTURE ACCORDING TO POLICY AND PROCEDURE

301.50 Histrionic Personality Disorder
Paraphrased notes from DSM-IV-TR™ (American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text Revision. Washington, DC, American Psychiatric Association, 2000)
A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking ... five or more of the following:
...is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
...interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
...displays rapidly shifting an shallow expression of emotions
...consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
...has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
...shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
...is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
...considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are

GOOD Cop Interpersonal Guidelines:
-Explore feelings and reasons for current emotional state
-Give them lots of attention
-Give them center stage
-Expect them to flirt
-Be a strong authority figure
-Show protective concern
-Do not expect much depth

BAD Cop Interpersonal Guidelines:
-Interrupt by asking for explanations, details, examples ...
-Actively compete for center stage ... restrict “acting-out”
-Minimize the importance of feelings
-Make others involved more important

301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Paraphrased notes from DSM-IV-TR™ (American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text Revision. Washington, DC, American Psychiatric Association, 2000):
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy ... five or more of the following:
...has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, ...expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
...is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
...believes s/he is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
...requires excessive admiration
...has a high sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
...is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
...lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
...is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
...shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

GOOD Cop Interpersonal Guidelines:
-Show respect, admiration, and be easily impressed
-“Understand” their special abilities and attributes
-Present yourself as important and having “connections”

BAD Cop Interpersonal Guidelines:
-Do not cater to in any way
-Relate to with indifference
-Comment on their negative characteristics
-Belittle their achievements
-Portray them as ordinary, common, and dull

301.83 Borderline Personality Disorder:
Paraphrased notes from DSM-IV-TR™ (American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text Revision. Washington, DC, American Psychiatric Association, 2000):
A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity ... five or more of the following:
...frantic efforts (other than those in item 5) to avoid real or imagined abandonment
...a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation
...identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self
...impulsivity in at least two areas (other than those in item 5) that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating).
...recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilation.
...affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).

GOOD Cop Interpersonal Guidelines:
-Be engaging, but “with them”
-Join their point of view
-Let them reinforce you
-Indicate care and concern for their well-being. Set limits.
-At hints of self-injury, set the limits according to policy and then be the one to “rescue” within policy guidelines

BAD Cop Interpersonal Guidelines:
-Be aware of their fear of abandonment ... being left alone ... having no one to care
-Tell them to grow up, get a life
-Keep the focus in the present and on their behavior, their choices, their responsibilities

Of course, it is a bit late to implement these guidelines, which of course are my opinions.

Russell