Casey & Family Psychological Profile #5

[BetsyB]

I have to add: while Cindy and George Anthony could have responded to Casey differently, there is nothing they could have done to change the fact that she's a sociopath.

Casey might have learned how to channel her antisocial tendencies differently--there are many successful sociopaths in business, government, and the military.

But they still cannot form meaningful relationships, and they still are personality disordered. And they very, very easily make the transition from socially acceptable functioning to antisocial behavior.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

http://www.truveo.com/Cindy-Anthony-speaks-to-reporters-after-bond/id/1031594907
I think it's the second sentence where she says "I am a nurse of decomposition"

I had heard that quote before and at the time wondered what the heck Cindy meant. I've never heard of "a nurse of decomposition" before. I thought nurses took care of the living! I think what she was trying to say was, " I've smelled an odor before (I'm a nurse) of decomposition." She was clarifying why she had smelled the odor, because she was a nurse. She just inserted "I'm a nurse" into the wrong place.

She's a humdinger, isn't she? She just goes on and on. Look at George while she is spewing her words. Love when he's taking her out and she just doesn't shut up. Oh, yes, the apple definitely didn't fall far from that tree. :crosseyed:

Cindy wants to be in control, just as Casey does.

You can read about sociopaths here:

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Just for the record, I don't think Cindy is a sociopath. Borderline? Not sure. I don't know Cindy's history, except she appears to want everything her way and she wants to be the center of attention.

 

[Pollywog]

CA's mental illness is KC! I think she allowed her daughter to drive her to the brink of insanity, not only enabling her to be the way she is, believe in lie after lie no matter how far fetched, controlling her to try and make her be something different to now covering up for all the horror she has caused.

I can't even begin to imagine how CA must feel at losing Caylee, but she needs to stop trying to control everyone and everything regarding this case. If she allows it, this mess will push her over the edge. Yes KC is her child, but enough is enough.

 

[Janis396]

I had heard that quote before and at the time wondered what the heck Cindy meant. I've never heard of "a nurse of decomposition" before. I thought nurses took care of the living!

She's a humdinger, isn't she? She just goes on and on. Look at George while she is spewing her words. Love when he's taking her out and she just doesn't shut up. Oh, yes, the apple definitely didn't fall far from that tree. :crosseyed:

Cindy wants to be in control, just as Casey does.

You can read about sociopaths here:

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Just for the record, I don't think Cindy is a sociopath. Borderline? Not sure. I don't know Cindy's history, except she appears to want everything her way.

She actually didn't say it like that. I posted this before, but if you go back and listen closely to what she says, it was a misjointed way she put the sentence together:

"I've smelled an odor before....I'm a nurse....of decompositon".

She just worded it wierdly. Must be that genetic "backwards" way of speaking the A's have

 

[PaulaF513]

Keep in mind that many believe personality disorders are learned behaviors.

Yes, I do believe that many PDs are learned behaviors. I'd like to address the "diagnosis" mindset that many of us are exhibiting. It should be noted that very often experts misdiagnose specific personality disorders. The general public has little in the way of training and education in psychiatry so we need to be cautious when applying the "disorder du jour" to people who populate our own lives. A presumed diagnosis of sociopathy can be devastating to an individual and to their families. And when we perceive someone as being antisocial, we subconciously may begin treating them differently than we treat others. This may actually cause a person who is borderline or simply going through a troubled period, to become increasingly antisocial in their behavior or to cross the line completely into the disorder. While I know that PDs are not classified as a mental disorder, I believe there is evidence that many who suffer from this particular one have unusual physiologic brain activity that can be documented.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Cindy is a control freak with a love-hate relationship when it comes to Casey.

One minute she is calling her a thief, a liar, and a Sociopath to all her friends and next she is lying and covering up all kinds of things to LE.

I see alot of Casey in Cindy's personality.

Even when Casey took LE on that wild goose-chase lying about her job right up to the non existant office she had!! She would not face up to her lies until the very end!

Cindy is doing the same thing about Caylee being alive somewhere, even going so far as to accuse Caseys friends.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

She actually didn't say it like that. I posted this before, but if you go back and listen closely to what she says, it was a misjointed way she put the sentence together:

"I've smelled an odor before....I'm a nurse....of decompositon".

She just worded it wierdly. Must be that genetic "backwards" way of speaking the A's have

I heard that. You must have quoted me before I edited my post. She was trying to get in so much, she rattled on. Yes, I think she made "I'm a nurse" a clarifier for why she's smelled the decomposition odor. What I want to know is how long does she let her patients lie there after they die for them to smell like Casey's car???

 

[Oakley]

I disagree. I think that's how it probably was when Casey and Lee were children..

but I think that house is run on Casey's moods, her attitudes. I think everyone lets a lot of things slide because they dont want to have to "deal with" her . I think the house can be perfectly calm and Casey can come in and change that in a second flat. I think Casey manipulates her mother to the point of causing an almost fear in her.

Interesting...But I wonder if it isn't the other way around: CA controlling KC and causing fear in her (remember KC stating in the LE interview that she was "terrified" of CA and that CA would never forgive her?) I am not making excuses for KC's behavior (far from it!) I believe in dysfunctional relationships it is often difficult to decipher the mess of cause and effect. It is just one big ball of confusion.

 

[yolorado]

Depends on what the definitions of 'illness' and 'is' are....

Seems to me Cindy has the same personality than KC has, the same sense of grandiosity, the continuous talking, seemingly talking to allow herself the ability to think while hopefully preventing others from formulating questions about what she's saying. They both try to use conversation to control the environment around them. When push comes to shove, in high stakes conditions, they aren't particularly good at it but they both put forth prolific efforts. They both feel superior to most other people, have a sense of entitlement and seem to be out for themselves without a lot of care for others. They both seem to lack a clear and objective sense of reality. However, in KC's case, somehow she's kicked into full-blown sociopathic/ negative personality disorder territory, where she's been for a while now. Cindy, I think, is just now on the verge of going over, if she hasn't already tipped in the past couple of months. I think they have had the same propensities, but that somehow KC took hers all the way and Cindy didn't, until possibly now.

 

[Lake Erie Princess]

I did not hear Cindy speak prior to the incident of Caylee being "gone,"
so I have nothing to compare her present mood to.

To consider that she may have a mental illness is frightening, to say the least, considering that she IS a licensed RN.

Anyone know her maiden name ? If I had it, I would sleuth on my end, as they originally lived about 50 minutes from me, here in Ohio. Please PM me if anyone knows the last name.

I can't come to a conclusion about what Cindy's problem is.
Not knowing her prior to this case, it is hard for me to say.
Could it be stress related, because with Caylee missing it is a HUGE stressor.

I would not be able to put my feet on the floor in the am, if anything happened to my G'daughter, Alexis. I KNOW a loss like that woud do me in.

 

[Oakley]

Getting tough is not what Cindy did. She replaced the money in the account of the grandparents, presumably, rather than allow Casey to be held accountable. She repeatedly allowed Casey to steal from HER from her brother and from anyone else she chose to steal from and Cindy swept up the mess and covered it all up for her. She paid to get the car out of impound, when by all rights they should have just left it right there and let little miss Casey figure out how to get it out by herself. She smelled a dead body in her daughters car and did not IMMEDIATELY call the police knowing she had not seen her granddaughter or HEARD HER VOICE since she left the house on whichever day it was. She belittled Casey in front of Jesse and called her an unfit mother for not financially supporting Caylee, and called Casey's BABY a MISTAKE...She never held her ACCOUNTABLE for one of her crimes, and attacking her is hardly getting tough with her...What likely happened is that Cindy TOLD Casey she was going to take Caylee away from her that night and instead, Casey killed Caylee...Cindy has a great deal to answer for in this as well as Casey. She had obstructed and lied and destroyed evidence and lied and lied and lied. She is STILL feeding the monster that she helped to create...she has STILL not "gotten tough" with Casey...:banghead:

VERY insightful post.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

Cindy reminds me of Alex K's parents. Won't admit that their child is wrong and helps cover up for him. They also funded his escape by sending him money constantly to a point they even visited him and took a ski vacation while he was on the run!

The parents were not charged with any wrong doing, LE felt that there was too much sympathy out there for them and they wouldn't ever be convicted anyway. They got away with a lot, not murder but a lot more than anyone else in their position would have.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/12/kelly.guilty/

I think LE would love to charge the A's with obstruction but with the public sympathy it wouldn't ever fly.

I think it is a form of PD and not a mental illness that CA has.

 

[PaulaF513]

I did not hear Cindy speak prior to the incident of Caylee being "gone,"
so I have nothing to compare her present mood to.

To consider that she may have a mental illness is frightening, to say the least, considering that she IS a licensed RN.

Anyone know her maiden name ? If I had it, I would sleuth on my end, as they originally lived about 50 minutes from me, here in Ohio. Please PM me if anyone knows the last name.

I can't come to a conclusion about what Cindy's problem is.
Not knowing her prior to this case, it is hard for me to say.
Could it be stress related, because with Caylee missing it is a HUGE stressor.

I would not be able to put my feet on the floor in the am, if anything happened to my G'daughter, Alexis. I KNOW a loss like that woud do me in.

Plesea

 

[Zoe Bogart]

LE deals with people who kill everyday. The length of time since the child was seen was the first clue. When Casey lied about every aspect of her life including people who don't exist, they had no reason to believe this was a kidnapping. Most parents who murder their children hide them and call it a kidnapping. Why would LE search for a missing child when the mother of that child lied about everything she told them?

You have to remember experienced LE read people because of their experience and are rarely wrong. They almost have an antenna which alerts them when they are being lied to and after that first lie, everything which is said by ANYONE is considered suspect.

CA & GA did not help KC any by trying to cover up for her. That put LE even more on the alert. From the minute the lies started, this in LE's mind became a possible homicide from their prior experience.

There could not even be an amber alert because of the time since the child went missing.

:clap::clap::clap:

The first time I heard about the little girl who was missing and her mother didn't report it for a month, my radar said, "She killed her". So I can understand why LE didn't go into search mode from the beginning, especially since Casey lied, lied, lied extensively and took them to places that were unnecessary. I can see how LE pegged her as a liar right away. She gave them enough reason. Then the lies from the rest of the family came flowing out. My favorite of all was Cindy's shock at having to swear to statements she gave to LE. "I didn't know I was going to have to swear!" :rolling:

 

[tiredofthis]

I agree. I think that once Cindy realized that Caylee was dead (which she must have considering the blatant clues) for some reason she figured that she can't save Caylee so she will save KC. (and herself and GA in the process) It's almost like her control issue got the better of her and it was easier for her to have something she could influence than have to face the realization that she had raised and been living with a sociopath daughter whom she obviously did not know as well as she thought. I'm surprised after following this that CA and/or GA are still living. If KC had gone after CA I wouldn't have been surprised either.

Did she suddenly become frightened of KC? Is she enabling her out of fear? Thoughts, sleuths???

I don't think CA is frightened of KC. If she were truly frightened, then she wouldn't have her living in the same house. I agree with you about CA knowing that Caylee is dead and deciding to protect KC.

 

[PaperDoll]

Cindy is doing what I think is her best effort at maintaining her family in the best way she can. The woman is operating on "put out the fire" instead of being able to have time to think through the repercussions of her actions. I believe that CA and KC are just audacious and not crazy - there has been no evidence of mental disturbance, just efforts to get out of a mess.
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I never thought of it this way but it makes sense.. I agree with this. I think she is trying hard to keep her family in tact because she is losing her family. Casey is her family. She already lost a beloved family member, her little granddaughter, Caylee. Now Casey??? I don't think Cindy has a resting place. I really don't. Everywhere she turns is turmoil for her. I believe she really knows that Casey did this and for some reason can't seem to really get angry at Casey therefore directing it elsewhere. Maybe she is trying to create warm feelings for Casey so the anger doesn't eat her up. :waitasec: Not sure though.. just thinking out loud here.. hehe :crazy:

 

[Mom of Five]

I also saw the show and thought about Casey through the whole thing, and how she is exactly like this son! The only difference being she didn't kill all the members of her ENTIRE family, just the smallest most innocent one.

The other thing that I kept wondering, is how did these families raise such human MONSTERS, yet also raise relatively normal children?? I just don't get that, unless it really is a Nature over Nurture thing.

Personality Disorders really are about nature. Kids are born that way. The illness can then either be dealt with by the family or not dealt with, and the way it manifests itself can destroy an otherwise normal family.

There are four siblings in my family. Only one of us is mentally ill. It had nothing to do with the way my parents raised us, but the way my parents dealt with the manifestations of my siblings mental illness, ultimately destroyed our family.

 

[Mom of Five]

Thanks for providing that link. Although I had seen it before, I watched it again. It is priceless. Cindy at her most confused. Did you notice the expression on George's face, he looked at her like she was an alien.

This is another example of Cindy attempting to manipulate the public and media. There is no such thing as a nurse of decomposition, but she is trying to convince us all that she knows it was pizza because she has more knowledge than the rest of us. She continues to go on and on even though her husband tries to quiet her. From the look on his face he knows her statements will be questioned.

 

[dsd07]

What I would like to know is why isnt there any extended family members involved in this? Whether it be support for George and Cindy or to go out there and say that these people are strange or whatever just to get on tv. Usually in cases like these, an aunt, uncle, cousin, etc becomes the family spokesperson. Do Cindy and George not have ANY family, or do they but no one gets along? Also, where are Cindy's girlfriends??? Seems odd that they have no one but each other. Lee seems to be MIA as of late too. I think he is disagreeing with mommy and daddy again and know miss kc is guitly.

 

[Janis396]

What I would like to know is why isnt there any extended family members involved in this? Whether it be support for George and Cindy or to go out there and say that these people are strange or whatever just to get on tv. Usually in cases like these, an aunt, uncle, cousin, etc becomes the family spokesperson. Do Cindy and George not have ANY family, or do they but no one gets along? Also, where are Cindy's girlfriends??? Seems odd that they have no one but each other. Lee seems to be MIA as of late too. I think he is disagreeing with mommy and daddy again and know miss kc is guitly.

Those people probably fled years ago, when KC started with all her drama/lies/stealing/etc etc and the A's never did anything about it.