Casey's Body Language and Reactionary Comments#3

[affinity]

Do you think Cindy is trying to impart psychological messages..punishments of sorts, in the clothes she is picking for KC? It struck me odd that she chose a red sweater for KC and she wore the butterfly scarf the same day.. It was like the red sweater represented the SCARLET LETTER...or all that is devilish/bad, and Cindy was the grieving victim in the butterfly scarf which represented Caylee.. Then, the next day...she brings KC nothing and she is forced to wear the red sweater again, so she covers it up with a jacket and swings her pollyanna pony-curl to the front..Then, the next day, she brings a suffocating LAVENDER (Caylee's color) turtleneck which KC is forced to wear. KC spends her day in court tugging at the neck. Because it was actually uncomfortable or psychologically uncomfortable..? I may be reading something that isn't really there.. but I have to say that those interpretations clearly crossed my mind as I watched and thought about it..:waitasec:

Are these clothes that KC wears coming out of her own closet from Hopespring? Well. I would imagine so. It has been a really odd assortment..and I tend to agree that whoever is doing the choosing might be having some "fun"! (at KC's expense) lol.

The best KC ever looked (IMO) was at her check fraud thing...where she stood up and said she was sorry. She wore a crisp ironed shirt. That's her best look..because the suit coats have all looked odd on her (too much) and the "poofy" sleeved things are wrong also (too casual). She looks best in tailored shirts. Baez...if you are reading this, can't you take a leettle bit of the Caylee photograph money and buy your client some nice long sleeve "Foxcroft" no iron shirts!? (Nordstrom). They go on sale all the time. (oh, never mind...it's very entertaining to see what kind of awful thing Cindy chooses for her next).

 

[pip]

I think the jury will see her in a more guilty light if she keeps hiding in plain sight and disconnecting herself from the proceedings by feverishly writing notes... than by her facial tics and her impulsive grooming that she does without another diversion...although neither are very favorable. She just has a heck of a time concealing her guilt, doesn't she?

I wonder what the DT team will have her do at trial? They must have gleaned thru the media by now that the constant writing is being discussed.

 

[LambChop]

She'll have her own iPad so she can play "hangman" I would imagine.

 

[Tiki]

Re: the turtleneck tugging

Not in support of ICA, but I can't stand a turtle neck - not even a close fitting round neck tee, or a scarf wound to tight. I feel like I'm being strangled. From ICA's pre-July photos, it doesn't seem she normally wears a close fitting neckline. just sayin' . . .
then again, the tugging could be a psych thing with her.

moo

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[pip]

Re: the turtleneck tugging

Not in support of ICA, but I can't stand a turtle neck - not even a close fitting round neck tee, or a scarf wound to tight. I feel like I'm being strangled. From ICA's pre-July photos, it doesn't seem she normally wears a close fitting neckline. just sayin' . . .
then again, the tugging could be a psych thing with her.

moo

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Exactly. Me neither. So is that why Cindy chose a Lavender Turtleneck? We already know that lavender is symbolic for Caylee... perhaps she also knows what effect a turtleneck will have on KC. She will feel strangled. LOL.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I'm waiting for the defense to file a Motion asking for JAC to pay the costs of an acting coach. The defense has obviously not gotten through to Casey the proper emotional responses she should be having during testimony. Staring at your father with absolutely no emotion on your face while he is choking back tears is not going to sit well with a jury... unless you're planning on accusing him of sexual abuse/incest?

 

[Turnadot]

My opinion, I think the defence is trying out how best to present KC at trial.

KC is a bit of a loose canon, I think. Seems to me they gave her a legal pad and a pen and told her to write when she felt angry or stressed so that her rage wouldn't be noticed by a potential jury.

But the problem is she was in constant rage during the last hearing and scribbled, scribbled, scribbled when she wasn't making faces and shaking her head at what was being said. It made her look very cold and detached so I think the defence realised it backfired because during closing arguments, she didn't write near as much, but if looks could kill, LDB would have burst into flames from the hate in KC's eyes. So that backfired, too.

To be honest, I can't think of anything else the defence can do with her to make it better.

If she pays attention, her rage and hate is on her face and in her eyes. If she writes, she looks detached and cold, especially when she's pressing hard on the paper and underlining every other word.

Not that I'm a fan of the defence team, but in fairness, what else can they try? She's a nightmare client.

 

[LolaMoon08]

My opinion, I think the defence is trying out how best to present KC at trial.

KC is a bit of a loose canon, I think. Seems to me they gave her a legal pad and a pen and told her to write when she felt angry or stressed so that her rage wouldn't be noticed by a potential jury.

But the problem is she was in constant rage during the last hearing and scribbled, scribbled, scribbled when she wasn't making faces and shaking her head at what was being said. It made her look very cold and detached so I think the defence realised it backfired because during closing arguments, she didn't write near as much, but if looks could kill, LDB would have burst into flames from the hate in KC's eyes. So that backfired, too.

To be honest, I can't think of anything else the defence can do with her to make it better.

If she pays attention, her rage and hate is on her face and in her eyes. If she writes, she looks detached and cold, especially when she's pressing hard on the paper and underlining every other word.

Not that I'm a fan of the defence team, but in fairness, what else can they try? She's a nightmare client.

Notice my suggestion above. Hire an acting coach! :floorlaugh:

 

[Turnadot]

Notice my suggestion above. Hire an acting coach! :floorlaugh:

LOL, not a bad idea though, if they could spare the money from their own pockets.

 

[LolaMoon08]

LOL, not a bad idea though, if they could spare the money from their own pockets.

JB spent all his money on pocket squares.

Maybe one of them could carry a needle with them and poke her everytime they need to get an emotional response from her? Reminding her of the needle that will be entering her arm upon death if she doesn't.

 

[Turnadot]

JB spent all his money on pocket squares.

Maybe one of them could carry a needle with them and poke her everytime they need to get an emotional response from her? Reminding her of the needle that will be entering her arm upon death if she doesn't.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn KC is a sociopath. They can't identify with their own feelings or that of others, or take social cues. She never cries for anyone. GA's time on the stand during last week's hearing was clear evidence of that. To be honest, if KC were my client, I'd visit her at least once a week from here on out and "train" her to react to cues, even if she didn't mean it.

 

[LambChop]

I also noticed during one of the sessions JB had gotten up to talk to LDB or give her a paper. The camera was centered on KC and the look she shot LDB, if looks could kill. KC continued to glare until JB turned to return to his seat and KC immediately gave him a false smile. She seemed upset that JB was "talking" to LDB. And KC thinks her mother is controlling? They will never be able to control her 100% of the time. jmo

 

[LambChop]

I wouldn't be surprised to learn KC is a sociopath. They can't identify with their own feelings or that of others, or take social cues. She never cries for anyone. GA's time on the stand during last week's hearing was clear evidence of that. To be honest, if KC were my client, I'd visit her at least once a week from here on out and "train" her to react to cues, even if she didn't mean it.

KC's already proven what a bad actress she is. Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. jmo

 

[Solace]

I wouldn't be surprised to learn KC is a sociopath. They can't identify with their own feelings or that of others, or take social cues. She never cries for anyone. GA's time on the stand during last week's hearing was clear evidence of that. To be honest, if KC were my client, I'd visit her at least once a week from here on out and "train" her to react to cues, even if she didn't mean it.

Turnadot,

She is a Sociopath and CA called Ryan Paisley on July 3rd and told him to stay away from her because she is a sociopath. Her lying is absurd - doesn't matter who, what, where or when, she does not think of the consequences, she just lies. She is a sociopath. Not a psychopath - who plans everything he/she does e.g. Ted Bundy). She and Scott Peterson are good examples of sociopaths in action. They lie to their own detriment.

How could she possibly NOT KNOW that by writing the checks on Amy's account she would not get caught. She is on camera. She does not think that far ahead.

I still don't think she really knows what the future holds for her or addresses it. She is the center of attention right now and that is, imo, very important to her.

She is going to be convicted and then prison will be a whole lot different than where she is now, which is basically a rigid dorm with her protected.

 

[LinasK]

Re: the turtleneck tugging

Not in support of ICA, but I can't stand a turtle neck - not even a close fitting round neck tee, or a scarf wound to tight. I feel like I'm being strangled. From ICA's pre-July photos, it doesn't seem she normally wears a close fitting neckline. just sayin' . . .
then again, the tugging could be a psych thing with her.

moo

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:truce::truce::truceon't flame me, but I actually thought that was the best trial look they've shown for Casey so far. Pale pastels, and not a frilly little girl blouse, nor bright red or orange, and it flattered her figure, not too tight, didn't show off her bust, and didn't make her look like a paralegal with the blazer jacket. Also good to have her hair up in a bun so she couldn't constantly twirl it...

 

[Solace]

KC's already proven what a bad actress she is. Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. jmo

What about the fact that LDB notes KC having her picture taken at the police station where she smiled BROADLY.

Her child is missing, but because she is getting her picture taken, she smiles broadly. This is some kind of disorder - truly shocking disorder. She does not know how to act. She gets it when she makes a mistake, e.g. all they care about is CAylee, and she catches herself, but it is too late when she says "and you know what I do too".

Having said all of that, I think the fact that CA and GA let the lies go unchecked for so many years after it started (who lets a child lie to the family for two years just about working (I realize KC was not a child, but she was their child so hence the reference)- they leave every day and every day the parents KNOW she is lying and it is okay). This just empowered her to believing she was smarter and the lies work. Everyone is so stupid.

 

[pip]

Watch KC interact with the DT members... she smiles, laughs, has appropriate facial expressions (at least correct ones for the subject of discussion) She shows empathy and engagement in her face and body language. Example: CM being sick. You can read her lips easily when she said 'are you feeling better?' then 'awwww' and pats him, contorts her eyebrows and crooks her head in an empathetic look towards him. This is Casey acting. IMO, she is a sociopath, and she is just mimicking what normal responses and interactions would be. This acting ability is exactly what raises red flags for me re: Lee. He seems like a detached personality, an actor like KC, but hasn't really gotten the appropriate responses/behaviors figured out or down pat yet. He overkills with the laughing and smiling, which undermines his purposed intent to appear engaging, real, honest, approachable and likeable. He picks at his skin etc. on the stand to appear he is open, honest, exposed, no walls, natural and 'not hiding' anything. The effect it has on others is that he is inappropriate and well, gross. Lee's acting skills need some work. He is even more transparent than KC, IMO.

 

[Solace]

Watch KC interact with the DT members... she smiles, laughs, has appropriate facial expressions (at least correct ones for the subject of discussion) She shows empathy and engagement in her face and body language. Example: CM being sick. You can read her lips easily when she said 'are you feeling better?' then 'awwww' and pats him, contorts her eyebrows and crooks her head in an empathetic look towards him. This is Casey acting. IMO, she is a sociopath, and she is just mimicking what normal responses and interactions would be. This acting ability is exactly what raises red flags for me re: Lee. He seems like a detached personality, an actor like KC, but hasn't really gotten the appropriate responses/behaviors figured out or down pat yet. He overkills with the laughing and smiling, which undermines his purposed intent to appear engaging, real, honest, approachable and likeable. He picks at his skin etc. on the stand to appear he is open, honest, exposed, no walls, natural and 'not hiding' anything. The effect it has on others is that he is inappropriate and well, gross. Lee's acting skills need some work. He is even more transparent than KC, IMO.

I agree with you 100% about KC - total sociopath. I don't get that from Lee. The laughter is nervous and about 80% less this time than I have ever seen it. I felt very bad for him - he has aged immensely and was very fair in his answers.

 

[pip]

I agree with you 100% about KC - total sociopath. I don't get that from Lee. The laughter is nervous and about 80% less this time than I have ever seen it. I felt very bad for him - he has aged immensely and was very fair in his answers.

I think folks are pretty split in their vibes about Lee. He rings loud bells for me, yet others find him normal and just nervous.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Watch KC interact with the DT members... she smiles, laughs, has appropriate facial expressions (at least correct ones for the subject of discussion) She shows empathy and engagement in her face and body language. Example: CM being sick. You can read her lips easily when she said 'are you feeling better?' then 'awwww' and pats him, contorts her eyebrows and crooks her head in an empathetic look towards him. This is Casey acting. IMO, she is a sociopath, and she is just mimicking what normal responses and interactions would be. This acting ability is exactly what raises red flags for me re: Lee. He seems like a detached personality, an actor like KC, but hasn't really gotten the appropriate responses/behaviors figured out or down pat yet. He overkills with the laughing and smiling, which undermines his purposed intent to appear engaging, real, honest, approachable and likeable. He picks at his skin etc. on the stand to appear he is open, honest, exposed, no walls, natural and 'not hiding' anything. The effect it has on others is that he is inappropriate and well, gross. Lee's acting skills need some work. He is even more transparent than KC, IMO.

Bold is mine

I couldn't agree more!! And the way he plays both sides so well.. fooling everyone around him- even Casey, she was clueless until this hearing that he was not on her side throughout!