Casey's Diary Entry for June 21st & Missing Pages #1

[ThoughtElf]

Defense attorney Jose Baez told the NBC program that the diary entry was from 2003. "This is before Caylee was even born," he said. Baez is representing Casey Anthony, who is charged with daughter Caylee's murder.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/casey-anthony-case--4.html

I can't see that JB would deliberately lie about something LE can prove or disprove, so it is looking like the entry was from 2003.

That said, is JB saying this because of the '03 on the journal fly page, or because KC stated so?

 

[mathrock]

Maybe the last entry in the diary prior to killing Caylee was in '03, she decided to write her thoughts on her new found freedom in '08 and pulled out the old diary. Logic would say she would have written on the next available page, correct? It's obvious that pages have been removed from the diary. I'm thinking Casey started her diary in '03. In '08 she tore the old pages out and began new entries. The page to the left looks like the thicker type paper found just inside the cover of books or diaries.

Hear, hear! This is exactly what I've been thinking as well. I've just been too lazy to type it.

 

[jennyb]

JB has definitely told mistruths. Caylee is alive! after the cadaver dogs, FBI lab and the body farm had already confirmed her dead. I don't think he believed that for a second. I have confidence LE will prove the entry was written in '08.

 

[crete110]

IMO, she hadn't "made up a story" yet. She was in the moment of euphoria in the days following the act. The story came later.

Exactly. At the time of the entry she wasn't having to explain anything. KC wasn't just living 2 different lives, she was living about five of them. The entry reads to me as if she's comforting and calming herself. I do this whenever I get freaked out or scared. I tell myself everything will be ok. She had to do that some how because when Tony got home, she had to play the happy housewife and the two wouldn't mix.

I don't view this as a confession at all. It's clearly not. But it does coincide with her waking up with night sweats and terrors, her daughter missing, her partying and it's her own words telling that something was obviously wrong.

 

[natsound]

It doesn't appear that the diary was seized, based on the documents released yesterday.

Perhaps there will be more information in the next 1100 page release.

So in other words, that diary is still sitting at the A's house?

 

[TopGunner]

I'm no expert, but that's the same writing. S's, F's, 2's...all the same. Look at her signature on the police report, it's cursive, and the S and Y are the same as the diary entry.

I agree it's the same. the "th" together are also identical.

 

[crete110]

Defense attorney Jose Baez told the NBC program that the diary entry was from 2003. "This is before Caylee was even born," he said. Baez is representing Casey Anthony, who is charged with daughter Caylee's murder.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/casey-anthony-case--4.html

I can't see that JB would deliberately lie about something LE can prove or disprove, so it is looking like the entry was from 2003.

That said, is JB saying this because of the '03 on the journal fly page, or because KC stated so?

He's her defense attorney. OF COURSE he's going to lie about it. Otherwise he couldn't be a defense attorney. lol He has publicly insisted that all of the forensics are "junk science". It's his job to cast doubt. He's not under oath - he has every right and honestly, requirement to lie.

 

[Magnify]

Has anyone checked to see if any of her MS or FB posts or IMs had similar sentiments around June 21st 2008? i am going to look now, but wondered if anyone already had.....

 

[secretsquirrel]

I know that it's tempting to want to believe this is from 08, but I think it's a huge red herring and won't stand up for numerous reasons in trial. I'd hate to see a case resting on this UNLESS there is a forensic ink test that can prove when it was written. It's way too shaky otherwise. Yes, this diary could have come back to the house via Lee etc. but don't you think he/Cindy or whoever you think found it would look at it considering the situation? Wouldn't you? And for all those who think that Cindy destroyed evidence, why wouldn't she have destroyed this? There's just way too many assumptions that need to be made for this to stand up as evidence. It doesn't make logical sense to me.

 

[DianeB]

So in other words, that diary is still sitting at the A's house?

We don't know where it is.

One thing that may suggest it was seized and we don't have the documentation yet is the note about the photos taken of the parenting book with the "tantrum" notations - the report specified that the book was not taken, merely photographed.

There is nothing at all in the docs released yesterday that refers to the diary - only the two photos.

 

[camcneishg]

I just compared her writings in the police report, to this diary. The word "work" is written exactly like the word "worked" in the missing persons report. I do not know how to post them side by side here, maybe someone else can do that for us....alot of the letters are the same...I say it was written in 2008! MO

 

[secretsquirrel]

I just compared her writings in the police report, to this diary. The word "work" is written exactly like the word "worked" in the missing persons report. I do not know how to post them side by side here, maybe someone else can do that for us....alot of the letters are the same...I say it was written in 2008! MO

If it was written by the same person, why wouldn't it look the same? I'm not following your logic here.

 

[ThoughtElf]

He's her defense attorney. OF COURSE he's going to lie about it. Otherwise he couldn't be a defense attorney. lol He has publicly insisted that all of the forensics are "junk science". It's his job to cast doubt. He's not under oath - he has every right and honestly, requirement to lie.

True.

I just really suck at thinking like a defense attorney. Making a living by lying never seems like much of a goal to aspire to, to me. I'd feel like the great unwashed 24X7.

So, we're back to waiting and playing Dave Letterman's 'Is this something? Or is this nothing?'

 

[camcneishg]

If it was written by the same person, why wouldn't it look the same? I'm not following your logic here.

My logic here is that at 17 she prob had a little diff handwriting, more childish....

 

[crete110]

True.

I just really suck at thinking like a defense attorney. Making a living by lying never seems like much of a goal to aspire to, to me. I'd feel like the great unwashed 24X7.

So, we're back to waiting and playing Dave Letterman's 'Is this something? Or is this nothing?'

LOL. Seems like it.

Ya know something else that has always amused me is... in the entire state of Florida, what are the chances that such an unimaginable warped person like Casey would by chance pick up the phone at the jail to dial a random attorney and wind up with JB who seems to be just like her? Laws of attraction I guess.

 

[nitasch]

Please look and compare the handwriting

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1

sorry, thought it would go right to the page but it didn't, go to page 36, CA written statement, looks very similar to the journal writing IMVHO.

Maybe this isn't KC's journal at all but CA and it is an "03" journal and it is speaking of her married life and all that and really doesn't have anything to do with KC and Caylee at all?

The "s'" are the same in the journal and CA's written statement, but, the "g" and "y" and "d" are very different. Seeing as how Cindy is an adult, she probably settled into her writing style years ago.....so...I don't think this is her entry in the journal....... BUT

If you compare CMA's hand written statement to the journal entry.....you come up with the same results.... there are distinct differences in the "s" "y" "d" etc.... at first glance, it does not look like CMA wrote it either. BUT if she truly did write it in 03, it would make more sense because teens and young adults change the writing style until they either get comfortable with one, or they don't have time to waste working a different writing style.

As much as I would like this to have been written in 08....I have to go with 03... JMO

 

[secretsquirrel]

My logic here is that at 17 she prob had a little diff handwriting, more childish....

I respectfully disagree. I believe that our handwriting styles are well formed before then and there wouldn't be much of a change except in cases where people use computers more and their handwriting gets messier. Even still, the style and way they form letters will still be the same, just messier.

 

[LinasK]

I would love to see the previous pages in that diary just to compare the handwriting.
I wanted to put these together just to see if the diary entry is consistent with Casey's current handwriting. Waht do y'all think?

the small a's are identical, the small f's are identical, the small c's are identical, and the small s's and small k's and small n's, so are the number 2's, neither sample slants, they are both up/down- I think Casey wrote them both! My opinion is that the journal entry was written June, 21, 2008, and that the '03 was either old, or backdated by Casey as a cover-up.

 

[Celt1997]

The idea of this diary entry being a "confession" of sorts, is intriguing, but I don't see this as being an important part of the prosecution's case. These are experienced prosecutors and they have to know that, with the '03 glaring at them on the facing page, this will get shot down in court.

This is what is so frustrating about this case. We have all of this circumstantial evidence that leads to the fact that KC did, in fact, cause the death of her daughter, BUT there are still a lot of holes for the defense to get through. I'm still bracing myself for the fact that she will probably not be convicted of anything as harsh as I think she should.

 

[camcneishg]

thank you LinasK!!