Casey's Diary Entry for June 21st & Missing Pages #1

[Rumpole]

I was about to ask...do journals and diaries normally have a photo frame on the front, or would this more likely be a scrapbook or a photo album?

Any of the artists surfing this site know what style of drawing the cats are? Perhaps we can narrow the Google image searches some.

In your set of 4 pictures, one showing the cover, where is the cover picture from?

 

[JWG]

In your set of 4 pictures, one showing the cover, where is the cover picture from?

Myfoxorlando has every single evidence photo released - well over a thousand I think. I got it from there...I have a slimy trick for getting the jpeg file off their site (you cannot right click).

ETA: You can get to the picture here.

 

[Rumpole]

My observations, which are likely repeats of other's....

1. The diary is missing a lot of pages between the two shown as seen by the page remnants in the spine, and as implied by a seemingly few number of pages between the cover and left page as well as the cover and right page.

2. The penmanship is different between the two. Obviously, the left page is printed and the right is cursive.

3. In the left page image one can see four colored pens beneath the book, including one that appears to be pink and may be the one used to write in this book.

4. The diary certainly is not a school yearbook as can be seen by the cover, but it was photographed on top of the 2001 yearbook (last image).

To clarify, the top picture. I have not seen that is there a link to photos that I have not come across?

 

[Rumpole]

Myfoxorlando has every single evidence photo released - well over a thousand I think. I got it from there...I have a slimy trick for getting the jpeg file off their site (you cannot right click).

Thanks.

I see if I can achieve the trick, else contact you later

 

[Indigo]

I was about to ask...do journals and diaries normally have a photo frame on the front, or would this more likely be a scrapbook or a photo album?

Any of the artists surfing this site know what style of drawing the cats are? Perhaps we can narrow the Google image searches some.

Hey, JWG. I think the style is called French Folk Art. I'm not having any
luck trying to find the illustrator for Peter Pauper Press' cats. There are a few photo albums with a similar style cat illustrations on the Target site--but no matches.

 

[lin]

The closer I look, the more the cover looks like a photo album rather than a journal. There's a square directly in the center that looks like a photo frame.Take a look and see what you all think.

Wow! Didn't even think of that. Makes great sense though. Picture book/photo album with writing on the inside cover and loose page inside?

 

[meta]

Just adding my $.02.

If I was an ideal juror (ie, I'd been living on an island in the South Pacific for the past year and knew nothing of this case... which is probably more MY ideal than what either the prosecution or defense would hope to seat)... given the evidence thus far, I would find it easier to believe that Casey's "ZG" existed and played a part before I would believe this journal entry was made on some other date than which it is dated.

To me, it's pretty clear (at face value) that the picture taken of the journal entry is of no value. And I would definitely reconsider should more details come about that demonstrate otherwise.

On the other hand, I have yet to see anything that conclusively proves that Cacey's "ZG" doesn't exist.

I don't see either of the two issues as any further stretch of the imagination than the other. We put the pieces together to build a picture that either 1. we recognize, or 2. we want/hope to see. But neither of those human inclinations necessarily reflect the truth.

 

[nyvictoria]

Just my two cents here...
The '03 date is underlined. The June 21 date is not. If I were keeping a journal there would be some consistency to the method I used for dating. If I underlined the year, I'd underline the date too. I would enter the entire year - 2003. But, that's just me. I think CA found the diary/journal and put the '03 notation there and underlined it so it would be noticed. She may have thought the June 21 page had already been photographed and was afraid to destroy it so she entered the year '03 on the inside cover (hoping the page had not been photographed in its entirety). No one in this family does anything logical and they all seem to feel they are somewhat above the law. Or it could be from 2003. But what was the big life change, new friends, etc. in 2003?? Just thinking out loud...

Sorry if this has already been mentioned. I'm trying to catch up on this thread.

 

[NJ Lawyer]

Just adding my $.02.

If I was an ideal juror (ie, I'd been living on an island in the South Pacific for the past year and knew nothing of this case... which is probably more MY ideal than what either the prosecution or defense would hope to seat)... given the evidence thus far, I would find it easier to believe that Casey's "ZG" existed and played a part before I would believe this journal entry was made on some other date than which it is dated.

To me, it's pretty clear (at face value) that the picture taken of the journal entry is of no value. And I would definitely reconsider should more details come about that demonstrate otherwise.

On the other hand, I have yet to see anything that conclusively proves that Cacey's "ZG" doesn't exist.

I don't see either of the two issues as any further stretch of the imagination than the other. We put the pieces together to build a picture that either 1. we recognize, or 2. we want/hope to see. But neither of those human inclinations necessarily reflect the truth.

The prosecutors are not required to prove that ZG doesn't exist. In fact, one can't really prove a negative at all. If you would require proof of the non-existence of ZG before you'd ever convict (even if more evidence comes in, on top of existing evidence such as leftovers of a rotting body in the car defendant drove) - you are right - you probably wouldn't be picked as a juror b/c this type of proof requirement would not be recognized, at least in the American legal system.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

If she likes Pauper Press products, this might have been her better journal choice.

 

[meta]

The prosecutors are not required to prove that ZG doesn't exist. In fact, one can't really prove a negative at all. If you would require proof of the non-existence of ZG before you'd ever convict (even if more evidence comes in, on top of existing evidence such as leftovers of a rotting body in the car defendant drove) - you are right - you probably wouldn't be picked as a juror b/c this type of proof requirement would not be recognized, at least in the American legal system.

You hit a couple of points I'd like to address:

1. As an individual with no influence, I do think the accused is guilty, so I'm not arguing otherwise.
2. As a citizen, I think the prosecution is obligated to satisfactorily demonstrate the accused is truly guilty in the face of what she and her defense argues.
3. As for proving a negative, I agree (see Anselm and Gaunilo).

My point is/was that despite the little evidence we have, some people are making great leaps to make the 'journal entry' fit into their pre-conceived notions in the face of details that would normally lead an unbiased person to believe otherwise.

I was/am comparing those 'great leaps' to the similar leaps one would need to take in order to accept KC's "ZG".

If one is willing going to ignore what's right in front them and speculate/"fill in the blanks" to support their case, why do they discount another's ability to do the same?

 

[BleuEyes]

KC doesn't strike me as finishing things. I think she probably had the diary in 2003,
didn't use the entire thing, maybe tossed it aside and then picked it up much later.
Perhaps she found it when she looked under her bed or cleaned her closet out in
2008. Decided it was time to be a "journalist" and record her fascinating life
story.

 

[lin]

You hit a couple of points I'd like to address:

1. As an individual with no influence, I do think the accused is guilty, so I'm not arguing otherwise.
2. As a citizen, I think the prosecution is obligated to satisfactorily demonstrate the accused is truly guilty in the face of what she and her defense argues.
3. As for proving a negative, I agree (see Anselm and Gaunilo).

My point is/was that despite the little evidence we have, some people are making great leaps to make the 'journal entry' fit into their pre-conceived notions in the face of details that would normally lead an unbiased person to believe otherwise.

I was/am comparing those 'great leaps' to the similar leaps one would need to take in order to accept KC's "ZG".

If one is willing going to ignore what's right in front them and speculate/"fill in the blanks" to support their case, why do they discount another's ability to do the same?

Thanks for sharing your opinion regarding the date of the journal entry. That other's opinions may differ does not make their opinion as ridiculous as the imaginanny, in my opinion.

My observation is that many here have expressed they're not really convinced one way or another regarding the date, that there is too much ambiguity involved. This is in no way meant to discount your ability to draw a firm conclusion without the rest of the information some of the rest of us feel we need to do the same.

Guess we'll find out if this is anything when/if it gets released. Until then, I guess we're all allowed to hold our varying opinions and I don't find it necessary to denigrate any that don't agree with mine. I'm sorry that your posts seems to do just that. Doesn't seem to be fostering discussion. Seems more like belittling those who disagree. But that's just my opinion.

 

[LinasK]

carried over from the Astrology thread:

Ah, but you are absolutely correct. clickorlando has the report.
Several pages were ripped out following the pages that read " '03". I had the same thought you did about a very late alteration as it was brought from Tony's. Lee could have done that or another family member. But at least now we know there are pages missing following the dated one. No wonder Judge Pirro said what she did about the difference in the writing.

 

[Alice]

It looks like the pages have been torn out too about 1/4 of an inch worth. I've had journals like this before and if you try and just tear the pages out neatly they get jagged. So you have to pull a bunch out at a time and sections come out bonded with the glue backing. I have done this to sooo many journals. Someone will give me one for a birthday or Christmas and I will begin my journal. However, after about a week or two of daily journal keeping I'll stop, then start and then I'll decide to really start and end up tearing out big chunks of the journal. One journal can be used for years that way.

 

[DianeB]

Unfortunately, in this case the picture alone just won't do - we need the thousand words.

If you think about it, Casey doesn't have to present a defense at all. It's up to the prosecution to prove her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Of course, it does help that her father will testify that Casey was the last person seen with little Caylee.

 

[SL_Zero]

If she likes Pauper Press products, this might have been her better journal choice.

hehe ot but i have the "reform school girl" one - a gift from a friend

 

[Pattymarie]

KC doesn't strike me as finishing things. I think she probably had the diary in 2003,
didn't use the entire thing, maybe tossed it aside and then picked it up much later.
Perhaps she found it when she looked under her bed or cleaned her closet out in
2008. Decided it was time to be a "journalist" and record her fascinating life
story.

I just posted this on another thread. I am not a great journaler, though I always vow to be one. Had a beautiful hardback journal given to me 8 yrs ago. Date inscribed on the inner left hardback cover. Too expensive to throw away. Have made several attempts at starting to journaling. Each time I date the day and month, but not that particular year because I always think I am going to keep journaling. Don't. Journal still in my bedroom waiting for my next attempt. LOL.

 

[brownflower]

Two things strike me as strange about the June 21 diary entry:

Usually when someone writes in a diary they don't leave out things unless they think someone else might read it.

What I mean by this is: Why isn't she saying exactly what transpired that she thought was "the right decision"?

IMO a "normal" person would write something along these lines, "Dear diary, today I told my John to take a very long walk off a short pier. It was hard for me to do this but, I'm glad I did....."


The second thing I find strange is: Why write in red? Sorry to all you red lovers out there. But, who writes in red? What does that color signify? Love? Sex? Anger?

This is a grown woman with a child and she's writing in red?

Just strikes me as odd. Perhaps because I am a teacher and I used red to mark my students' assignments....

 

[yolorado]

I pray she wrote many more entries, wow KC is really dumb as a rock.

A particularly stupid rock.