Casey's Diary Entry for June 21st & Missing Pages #2

[OpenMind4U]

I tend to doubt that Cindy would keep the journal if she found it and thought it incriminating, and would instead destroy it if she thought LE would ever search the home and find it. Cindy would need a heckuva reason for keeping the journal rather than destroying it, and then writing that '03 to throw off an investigator just in case they had a reason to search the home in the future.

Instead, I believe KC wrote that '03 for some yet unknown reason. And again, I doubt it would be to throw off an investigation. I don't see her as thinking that far ahead, that the diary might be found and might be used to incriminate her. Why '03 and not '07 or '02?

Instead of a year, what other things could the '03 signify? A month perhaps, such as the month of March when the chloroform searches took place. :waitasec:

...I see where you going...Make sense to me. Let's see: the 'host' writing (indentation) was found on the TOP of '03' page which means that some of the missing pages were written BEFORE the 'Every Day A Brand New Beginning' page, right? If we'll assume that '03' means the YEAR then missing pages would be written in earlier year(s) which cannot be true because this notebook was not available until 2004. So, I do agree with you: this 'apostrophe 03' means not the YEAR but something else. Month? When exectly KC met Tony?!!!! In March?? What happens in March as the 'new beginning'???

 

[LancelotLink]

...I see where you going...Make sense to me. Let's see: the 'host' writing (indentation) was found on the TOP of '03' page which means that some of the missing pages were written BEFORE the 'Every Day A Brand New Beginning' page, right? If we'll assume that '03' means the YEAR then missing pages would be written in earlier year(s) which cannot be true because this notebook was not available until 2004. So, I do agree with you: this 'apostrophe 03' means not the YEAR but something else. Month? When exectly KC met Tony?!!!! In March?? What happens in March as the 'new beginning'???

Or Caylee's age that year of 2008?

 

[mac66]

Could it be the Class of '03? The year she should have graduated? Not sure when she should have graduated.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Ok, so this diary was there and available to Cindy unknown to anyone else until LE photographed it in Dec 08, right? If Cindy felt there was any hint of incriminating evidence written in it there is no way LE would have ever seen it. If she did want to hang on to it for whatever reason she could have put it in a bank safety deposit box, given it to someone to hold on to. But to just leave it in Casey's room? That doesn't sound like the Cindy we have all grown to "love"

I honestly believe cindy kept it so she could read it all - but, now that whiteangora said it, I don't know why she wouldn't have hid it somewhere (Dad's nursing home room, Mom's house, secret safe deposit box) Unless she thought LE would still be able to find it.

I still think - with the wrong hairbrush and the dogs toothbrush - she seriously thought she could outsmart LE.

 

[beach]

I always thought that DC went out in the woods because he got a tip from a psychic. He is the one who originated the idea? Am I wrong?

Oh, he definetly got a tip alright. A BIG "tip". However, IMO his "tip" came from someone MUCH, MUCH closer to this case.

His initial story is that is was from psychic Ginette Lewis. Not sure if he stuck with that story during his investigative interview.

If you haven't read the the email exchanges between Dominic Casey, Luke and Ginette Lewis....those would shed a lot of light. Warning: Mix a pitcher of strong cocktails, get at least 2 doses of Extra-Strenght Tylenol and get ready to sit in front of your monitor for at least 24 hours.

 

[Sparky]

KC dob 03/19/86

 

[TrialAddict]

I deleted my earlier post, but what trying to say is, the dairy could have been sold in one or more store's before 2004, but the Dollar store got them in 2004

Who said, Casey bought it at the Dollar Store? Not being snarky, just asking if anyone knows if she did for sure?

 

[ynotdivein]

Have we ever seen anything that tells us exactly (or even approximately) how many pages had been torn out of that diary?

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

In the report there are two separate quotes of two separate writings:

One documented by the US Secret Service (report dated June 3, 2010) described as an "optical examination . . . for the visualization of text." I have copied the text as Atch 1.

The second set was reported by the FBI (reported in letter dated Dec 10, 2010) and is described as "indented writing." I have coped this text in Atchs 2 and 3.

I believe these were on different pages and probably written at different times. I can make out some of what the Secret Service found on the images they attached as their exhibits but can't find any of the text referenced by the FBI (they didn't attach any exhibits). Don't you all think they're on two separate pages too and that it's important that we keep in mind that the entries could be separated by any number of previously torn out pages and years in time? The distinction could prove important?

 

[LancelotLink]

In the report there are two separate quotes of two separate writings:

One documented by the US Secret Service (report dated June 3, 2010) described as an "optical examination . . . for the visualization of text." I have copied the text as Atch 1.

The second set was reported by the FBI (reported in letter dated Dec 10, 2010) and is described as "indented writing." I have coped this text in Atchs 2 and 3.

I believe these were on different pages and probably written at different times. I can make out some of what the Secret Service found on the images they attached as their exhibits but can't find any of the text referenced by the FBI (they didn't attach any exhibits). Don't you all think they're on two separate pages too and that it's important that we keep in mind that the entries could be separated by any number of previously torn out pages and years in time? The distinction could prove important?

Could Marcus be MH?

 

[Patriciao]

I personally believe the diary is old and not related to Caylee. I think Casey may have written about an abortion or faking a pregnancy (she told some guy she'd been pregnant and lost the baby). As for it being sold in 2004 it could very well have been sold some place else in 2003.

 

[sleutherontheside]

I personally believe the diary is old and not related to Caylee. I think Casey may have written about an abortion or faking a pregnancy (she told some guy she'd been pregnant and lost the baby). As for it being sold in 2004 it could very well have been sold some place else in 2003.

To clarify.....the photojournal was manufactured specifically for Dollar General for sale in 2004. The Penman rep verified it.

 

[Scamperoo]

I think the journal may be from Christmas 2004, Casey may have just found out she was pregnant or very soon after Christmas. Then she began to write in the journal all of the details, fathers name etc and perhaps more information than Cindy wanted us to know.
Maybe she removed the pages with the details leaving the June entries as she saw nothing incriminating about them, after all they were created years earlier. To us, not knowing the dates it seems almost like a confession of what she had done. To further put us off the trail Cindy stuck a 03' in the corner so we wouldn't suspect she removed some of the information and what time it was done. Just an Idea..

 

[Snaz]

Could it be the Class of '03? The year she should have graduated? Not sure when she should have graduated.

She should have graduated in 2004.

 

[Capri]

IIRC, there is a Kenneth on one of the witness lists released, listed as a penalty phase withness, former highschool boyfriend

Kenneth D - Winter Park, FL - added Nov 29, 2010
Grad Colonial HS 2003 - Casey dated Kenneth in HS before Casey dated Jesse G

- Friend of Dante Salati and Annie Downing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1IKoWtQFXbILJ9pVMwT-c0dXhXOtFw-u5N2jfvVJM0/edit?hl=en&pli=1#

 

[Snaz]

Okay, let me see if I can explain. When you write on page 1 and leave an impression (which we always do) it shows up on page 2 and/or page 4 as a reverse text when you view it from a photograph. So page 2 had the 03 on it so it was not the cover (I think) it was just a page. Because nothing was on the back of the "cover page" it had to be page 4 or more. KC had written in the journal prior to that "cover page". In the report they translated what was written. I mean how many pages could she have written before the 03 page when the book was not released until 2004??????

Was '03 written on the inside cover of the journal (no lines) or was it the back side of the first page?

 

[Gnatcatcher]

Something that's baffling me, and maybe it's been discussed and I've missed it, but... if the diary page was written after Caylee was killed, in reference to Caylee, where was the diary? At the Anthony home? Because she left the Anthony home on the 16th (allegedly) and never returned except for the times she snuck in quickly to get clothes and gas cans and whatnot. Certainly not enough time to sit in her room, write in her diary, and then leave it there. So was it among her belongings that Lee brought back, as someone upthread suggested? I don't recall seeing or hearing that LE/FBI, etc. questioned anybody about the diary at all. Was it ever brought up in an interview, if any of her friends knew about it or had seen her writing in it, or with her at Tony's?

 

[beach]

IIRC, there is a Kenneth on one of the witness lists released, listed as a penalty phase withness, former highschool boyfriend

Kenneth D - Winter Park, FL - added Nov 29, 2010
Grad Colonial HS 2003 - Casey dated Kenneth in HS before Casey dated Jesse G

- Friend of Dante Salati and Annie Downing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1IKoWtQFXbILJ9pVMwT-c0dXhXOtFw-u5N2jfvVJM0/edit?hl=en&pli=1#

I find this VERY interesting. Especially considering the date he was added and the recent analysis.

Good find, Capri!!

 

[AZlawyer]

Okay, let me see if I can explain. When you write on page 1 and leave an impression (which we always do) it shows up on page 2 and/or page 4 as a reverse text when you view it from a photograph. So page 2 had the 03 on it so it was not the cover (I think) it was just a page. Because nothing was on the back of the "cover page" it had to be page 4 or more. KC had written in the journal prior to that "cover page". In the report they translated what was written. I mean how many pages could she have written before the 03 page when the book was not released until 2004??????

Was '03 written on the inside cover of the journal (no lines) or was it the back side of the first page?

I agree with LC; the "03" page couldn't have reverse indentation writing on it if it was written on the inside cover. So it must be an interior page, and the "Christmas" indentation writing was written before that page--probably on the other side of the page.

I'm starting to think the "Everyday Is A Brand New Begining" (don't blame me for her spelling) "Carpe Diem" page was a "New Year's" page--New Year's Day '05, '06, '07 or '08.

As for the other indentation writing--the "Kenneth/Marcus" one--do we know what page that was on?

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Was '03 written on the inside cover of the journal (no lines) or was it the back side of the first page?

I think the ripped out pages between the front cover page and the entry were from when she dated the Kenneth (in the penalty phase list) and thus the impression left on the carpe diem page has no significance except to PROVE this entry was made after that time frame!