Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #50

[Wise Old Owl]

The immunity deal or partial immunity deal is intriguing. Immunity deals are usually brought up when there are TWO or MORE people involved. They are used to get one person to "turn" on the other. IF Casey is the only one at fault here - why on earth is that even being brought up? Now I know the State Atty's office said today they are not going to entertain immunity for ANYONE in this case. But what does that tell you? We all concede that LE knows a hecka of a lot more than we do and Baez does too. So if Baez is asking for immunity - which we don't know - tells me there are other "not so innocent" players here.

 

[QuickAttack]

Exactly, we have to quit this "projection" of our own life experiences. This is not about us.

Where's the "thumbs up" emoticon. Again, I agree.

 

[not_my_kids]

Wonder how many LE officials lurk in this forum. Wonder if any of Casey's family lurks here. This site was mentioned on national TV. Just food for thought.

i fully expect that Lee Anthony has visited a couple of times. Especially since I asked him for permission to post our correspondence here.

 

[Blink34]

That could be - but we have all heard various and sundry experts call her psychotic, a psychopath, a sociopath - those are all "mental illnesses" The telling document in this is that psych eval - would love to know what it said.

Yes, but those are not relevant to her ability to mount an insanity defense, the burdens on the defense are very clear.. That being said, if she does not confess, I suspect that will got to GJ, which would make it even harder.. Agreed, that psych eval will be interesting

 

[txsvicki]

I think that Cindy was authentic in her calls to 911 on the 15th. I think in the time after LE visited that night and Casey was arrested the next day, Casey told George and Cindy that Caylee is dead.

I think that the rest of the night of the 15th was spent covering up, and disposing/osbfucating evidence. Unfortunately, since Zanaida was already a part of the story told to LE, they couldn't do much to change that.

I just can't get over George specifically mentioning "cleaning fluid" in Casey's trunk as his excuse for the stench. And I think that Cindy was being frank when she said, "I'm not going to lose another one" to Rozzie Franco.



With the news coming out that LE is offering partial immunity, LE has to have someone in mind as an accomplice. I think it may be the grandparents.

I agree especially since the two of them were meeting with detectives again today for a couple of hours. Wouldn't suprise me one bit.

 

[suspicious mind]

Look up sociopath. It fits her like a glove.

I know of a few words, actually, that you could look up that fit her like a glove.....

 

[not_my_kids]

Look up sociopath. It fits her like a glove.

Sociopath is better, the definition fits.

 

[wedavis]

I think that Cindy was authentic in her calls to 911 on the 15th. I think in the time after LE visited that night and Casey was arrested the next day, Casey told George and Cindy that Caylee is dead.

I think that the rest of the night of the 15th was spent covering up, and disposing/osbfucating evidence. Unfortunately, since Zanaida was already a part of the story told to LE, they couldn't do much to change that.

I just can't get over George specifically mentioning "cleaning fluid" in Casey's trunk as his excuse for the stench. And I think that Cindy was being frank when she said, "I'm not going to lose another one" to Rozzie Franco.



With the news coming out that LE is offering partial immunity, LE has to have someone in mind as an accomplice. I think it may be the grandparents.

I would agree with you if in the affidavit it didn't state that George told police he was concerned that Casey was witholding info. So your timing is a bit off.

 

[MsJoni]

Look up the definition of a psychopath. SHe is nowhere close. That term is way overused.

Look up the word Sociopath..it fits Casey to a tee....

 

[wishingtree]

Exactly, we have to quit this "projection" of our own life experiences. This is not about us.

Agreed, and I apologize for my part in it. I intended to just throw a few unusual life experience out there when I thought things I learned through them might apply, but I went too far with it. Bottom line is the facts speak for themselves, and the only reason I see for all the unbelievable things this woman has done is that she is flat out EVIL, self-centered, spoiled, and heartless.

 

[Beagle1]

Was the offer of immunity confirmed by the state? I've heard so many conflicting reports. On one of the news shows it said no one involved would be offered immunity.

State Attorney spokesman Randy Means released the following statement: "We are not entertaining immunity for anyone involved in this case."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26014374/

 

[QuickAttack]

i fully expect that Lee Anthony has visited a couple of times. Especially since I asked him for permission to post our correspondence here.

You're in correspondence with Lee? Are you a family friend or something?

It never crossed my mind to try to contact Anthony family members. I figured they have enough on their plates--especially Lee.

*shrug*

Lee is on the list to visit this week--that is public knowledge.

 

[QuickAttack]

I would agree with you if in the affidavit it didn't state that George told police he was concerned that Casey was witholding info. So your timing is a bit off.

Did George say that when LE visited on the evening of the 15th?

 

[shemc]

Why do you say that?

I agree about not putting personal stuff about yourself. I am a grandmother, so not young and innocent. I had joined a group online and never dreamed this would happen to me. I don't want to say to much for obvious reasons. Suffice it to say a woman got upset with me and ignoring her only made her more upset. I was scared to tell my husband but I finally had to because one day she called me to tell me what my house looked like and told me what she was going to do to me when she got here .... I have to admit she was very creative with her bodily harm ideas and threats, things I never even saw in movies. I freaked out every time the door bell rang for months. So be careful, people can figure stuff out about you by going over bits of what you say... crazy people don't reveal themselves till you make them mad.

 

[McSev]

I dont get it, repeated over and over again, if I had the strength I could cite the cases,, what's the data on that theory for applied cases??? It is so rare to have an anomaly that you have to acknowledge, it really can be that simple..

Amen. If Casey had a brain tumor (and I don't profess to know if she does or doesn't) her psychological evals would bring up that possibility - that is why they were ordered, right? If either of the 2 psychs who are still working with her thought that she needed a neuro eval, they'd ask the court for one. They'd have to, if I'm not mistaken, because those evals would need to prove she is capable of understanding the charges against her and can competently work with attorneys in her own defense.

What makes Casey's behavior as a defendent who may be charged with her daughter's disappearance any different than the behavior of Darlie Routier, Diane Downs, Susan Smith, Katherine Rutan, Lisa Holland...all convicts now who lied, lied, and lied more when arrested. All of them had similiar (except for Susan Smith) nonchalant and sometimes inappropriate ways of response about their murdered kids simliar to those seen with Casey. None of them had brain tumors, but they did have similiar behavior Casey is displaying now.

 

[Busylady]

I know very very little about mental illness etc. Can you medicate someone who is a sociopath and they snap back to reality? My question is if they medicate her with the proper medications will it make her feel remorse and maybe even confess to where Caylee is?

 

[txsvicki]

Look up the definition of a psychopath. SHe is nowhere close. That term is way overused.

I have read about it for a few years now, and Casey is like Scott Peterson who was said to be a psychopath. I think sociopaths/psychopaths are pretty much the same thing though. Most sociopaths are not intelligent, end up in prison pretty young, and have criminal records early on. Casey has no record up until now, was smart, and cunning.

 

[curiositycat]

We look at this and none of us can believe it's happening. None of this makes any sense unless you start looking at the fact that Cindy and George are somehow involved. It then makes a whole lot more sense, in my mind. The outrageous things they say, the fact that they aren't really looking for this child. There has not even been an AMBER ALERT. It's all crazy!

 

[shannon718]

I know very very little about mental illness etc. Can you medicate someone who is a sociopath and they snap back to reality? My question is if they medicate her with the proper medications will it make her feel remorse and maybe even confess to where Caylee is?

No. They lack empathy for others. its really complicated and generally un treatable.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I would agree with you if in the affidavit it didn't state that George told police he was concerned that Casey was witholding info. So your timing is a bit off.

And that would hold only up until the questioning him about the car - he picked it up - smelled the smell yet cleaned it out, (probably) put the gas cans back into his shed, threw away the garbage that was in it. He should have never left the impound lot with that car and he knows it. Plus now with the "loose lips" he is on the record as admitting to the smell (and that he thought she just hit an animal on the road). I think he has been running a little scared since his 6 hours with the fed the other day.