Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #50

[panthera]

I believe that the whole family knows that Caylee is not with this babysitter.

This is the second or third person we have heard of that offered to help or had a tip and was "blown off' By now we have to ask ourselves. WHY. In my mind it's obvious.

It reminds me of another case of a 'missing' child in the same area, recruiting volunteers, fundraisers for searches, and 'whatnot'.

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

Thank you ladybass for the update page--I refer to your posts when I get confused on timelines and people. Now that we have 50 threads and probably will end up with more--hopefully not 100!!!!:blowkiss:

Your Very Welcome!

 

[Litig8r]

I think so too! I have a couple of ideas about who it may be. No proof just speculation so for now I best shut my piehole about it.

Please, open your piehole and share! I know the negatives associated with "speculation", but by stating that it's speculation people that only want to associate with fact can choose to do so. I think by sharing the "what if's" it helps everyone to think of different possibilties - some of which end up being later confirmed as fact! I for one, would like to hear your thoughts!

 

[not_my_kids]

Don't forget she may have had 31 days of practice. What IF Cindy thought that Casey was going to turn her in and decided to beat her to the punch. I know it sounds really bizarre but there are some people that play sick psychological games. In my mind emotional abusers are sometimes worse then physical abusers.
I am just speculating NMK. I don't know what to believe anymore but this is the strangest case I have ever seen!

Growing up in my family that does not sound that bizarre. And I would agree that it sounds better for Cindy, if she had any part in whatever happened, if she turned it in. The suspicion is immediately placed on Casey and she has more room to maneuver. The only thing that gets me is if that is it, then why hasn't she said something by now? She definitely doesn't want to be in jail.

 

[burningsky22]

Please, open your piehole and share! I know the negatives associated with "speculation", but by stating that it's speculation people that only want to associate with fact can xhose to do so. I think by sharing the "what if's" it helps everyone to think of different possibilties - some of which end up being later confirmed as fact! I for one, would like to hear your thoughts!

So would I and all of this is speculation, so what could it hurt?

 

[anastacia129]

There is also a seperate thread for devil's advocates. It's kind of making me sick listening to somebody defend this liar and her apparent lack of concern for her daughter. I don't think she's misunderstood at all. It's like I'm reading posts by Cindy. GAG

 

[RR0004]

Ok, technically I was 1 for 2. She does say that the number is no longer in service. But she does spell the name Z-e-n-a-i-d-a. Like I said i would correct myself in necessary. So, wrong on the phone number and right on the spelling.

Yup...you are right..it was someone else who said it. I thought it was her...but can't remember how it was brought to our attention here on the board very early on. But, something changed with her name as did Juliet...Juliette...oh heck...none of these people exist. Add to that the 2 Jeffs and a whole lot of other characters and it's enough to take the gas IMO!!

 

[Pixie_Dust]

hmm i didnt no the ex bf was in law enforcement at one time

 

[wedavis]

An alarm went off in my head when I heard that Casey had gotten the tattoo supposedly in honor of Caylee during the time she has been missing. My reason is very personal, so it does bias my opinion about it somewhat, but let me explain my experience.

I lost my beloved Mother 6 years ago to a very violent suicide and later found out that she had been harassed in a very bizarre manner that would take a forum of its own to explain. To summarize with as few words possible, she was mentally ill, the person harassing her knew this and exploited it to make her believe this insane second world had been going on behind her back for 20 years. I didn't find this out until after the fact. I am an only child and my Mother raised me alone, so we were very close and I felt EXTREMELY guilty for not knowing something this serious had been going on in her life. I spent years in therapy to come to grips with it all (as best as I can), but during my extreme guilt phase I decided to get a tattoo to honor her. In my mind it was both a tribute and my own personal "scarlet letter A". I chose a rising Phoenix so that every time I looked at myself I would remember her and cherish her memory, but also so that I would always remember the (in my mind at the time) unforgivable mistake I made by not knowing this was going on. I have healed enough that I have overcome the grief for the most part, but I am explaining my mindset at the time.

So it made me think of Casey's decision to get a tattoo representing Caylee during the time since she went "missing". I can't help but wonder if in her warped mind she was either making a show of her "love" for Caylee or actually went through a phase of feeling guilt in between her partying and wanted to mark herself with her own "scarlet letter A". I know it may sound crazy, but the mind can rationalize strange behavior during traumatic times. The only problem I have with my theory is that Casey doesn't seem capable of feeling guilt or experiencing trauma. But I couldn't help but be reminded of my own experience and just wanted to throw it out there for others to form opinions about. Then again, if gang affiliations come into play, the tattoo could also just be something she did in relation to that and have nothing directly to do with Caylee at all. I guess I'm grabbing at anything that makes a little sense after weeks of reading a bunch of BS that makes NO sense whatsoever!! As I asked in my first post, please go easy on me!

Let me be the first to say if anyone is rude to you on this site I will go after them!

I'm sorry about your situation, and I know how it feels to be harassed too.

Your theory is as valid/possible as any I have yet to read on this site!

 

[curiositycat]

An alarm went off in my head when I heard that Casey had gotten the tattoo supposedly in honor of Caylee during the time she has been missing. My reason is very personal, so it does bias my opinion about it somewhat, but let me explain my experience.

I lost my beloved Mother 6 years ago to a very violent suicide and later found out that she had been harassed in a very bizarre manner that would take a forum of its own to explain. To summarize with as few words possible, she was mentally ill, the person harassing her knew this and exploited it to make her believe this insane second world had been going on behind her back for 20 years. I didn't find this out until after the fact. I am an only child and my Mother raised me alone, so we were very close and I felt EXTREMELY guilty for not knowing something this serious had been going on in her life. I spent years in therapy to come to grips with it all (as best as I can), but during my extreme guilt phase I decided to get a tattoo to honor her. In my mind it was both a tribute and my own personal "scarlet letter A". I chose a rising Phoenix so that every time I looked at myself I would remember her and cherish her memory, but also so that I would always remember the (in my mind at the time) unforgivable mistake I made by not knowing this was going on. I have healed enough that I have overcome the grief for the most part, but I am explaining my mindset at the time.

So it made me think of Casey's decision to get a tattoo representing Caylee during the time since she went "missing". I can't help but wonder if in her warped mind she was either making a show of her "love" for Caylee or actually went through a phase of feeling guilt in between her partying and wanted to mark herself with her own "scarlet letter A". I know it may sound crazy, but the mind can rationalize strange behavior during traumatic times. The only problem I have with my theory is that Casey doesn't seem capable of feeling guilt or experiencing trauma. But I couldn't help but be reminded of my own experience and just wanted to throw it out there for others to form opinions about. Then again, if gang affiliations come into play, the tattoo could also just be something she did in relation to that and have nothing directly to do with Caylee at all. I guess I'm grabbing at anything that makes a little sense after weeks of reading a bunch of BS that makes NO sense whatsoever!! As I asked in my first post, please go easy on me!

I can see why this case effects you in a special way! Bless your heart for sharing this.
I see were you are coming from and it's a very interesting thought!:blowkiss:

 

[Leila]

It sure could have happened the way you outlined it, anastacia. But even if it didn't, I think this last part is still highly likely. Casey is used to authority figures not imposing any consequences if they can't prove that she lied. Then, she just piles lie on top of lie so that everything gets so confused that they just give up and don't follow everything up. Her family believes her unless her word is proved false.

I think Casey just thought, "If I tell the police a made-up babysitter took her, how are they going to say it didn't happen that way? No one can prove I didn't."

Look at the lies she didn't expect them to follow up on: her job, her calls, the date Caylee went missing, her activities after Caylee disappeared, etc. No wonder she won't talk to LE but she will talk to her family. She's got nothing to tell the police that will hold up under real investigation.

It would appear that Casey isn't talking to LE because they aren't believing her lies. She continues to talk to her family because they are her enablers..........they've always believed her unless they've caught her in an outright lie. At this time, Casey is just feeding her family one lie after another, and they just keep coming back for more.

 

[Sparky]

We have sinkholes here in pinellas that as a teenager I and my friends used to hang out at, swimming and stuff. I wonder if there is somewhere around orlando like this a sinkhole, phosphate mine somewhere that the locals go party at.

I dont think she is that smart BUT if there is a pit.sinkhole,mine that she knows it could possibly have come to mind. Polk City is about 15-20 min from Orlando I will have to look and see if there are any mines there in the morning.

You just reminded me of something. There is a place actually 2 the kids call the mud hole One is in the Moss Park area and the other near Seaworld. Not sure if the kids go to the Seaworld area anymore or if they can. I know LE ran them off at one time. Moss Park area they all go out there and party and the kids tell me you will never find it Mom unless we take you.

Also the Mormons own a large ranch out that way and there was a mine in that area. Can't find the name of it and don't know if it's still operating. This is not far from where the Anthony's live.

 

[panthera]

hmm i didnt no the ex bf was in law enforcement at one time

You mean Jesse? Yes, he quit the PD right at the end of June.

 

[Carrington]

I just can't imagine how a person would go about getting an accomplice to such a horrific crime. I can't think of a person that wouldn't call 911 ASAP.
Casey had fly by night friends at the Clubs, not I'll protect you to the end of the earth kind.
IMO

 

[lillyfrog]

Lily

Her last log in was 3 weeks ago according to stumble upon.... and the friend "Captain Commando? I wonder who he is ...all that it says is that he is a 24 year old male from Orlando

Yeah

I was just looking at that account a little more closely...last added favorite was on June 17th 9:25 pm

 

[wishingtree]

Welcome, my neighbor!! :seeya: This part is very important, imo. They've suggested it's possible Caylee could be in our area, yet from what you posted, seem to ignore what could be valuable help in finding her. It even furthers my opinion that there is no proof this Zenaida or whoever supposedly has Caylee even exists. I applaud you for trying! :clap:

Hi Panthera - it's great to have a neighbor with a similar mindset of myself!! :wave: Thank you for your response and I'm glad to see that someone else interpreted the lack of response the same way I did.

 

[burningsky22]

Yup...you are right..it was someone else who said it. I thought it was her...but can't remember how it was brought to our attention here on the board very early on. But, something changed with her name as did Juliet...Juliette...oh heck...none of these people exist. Add to that the 2 Jeffs and a whole lot of other characters and it's enough to take the gas IMO!!

Oddly enough all the people talked about above have been in some sort of film/tv:

Jeff Hopkins IIRC:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0394187/

Zeniada Gonzalez:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2809710/

and the obvious Juliette Lewis:
http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=juliette+lews

 

[drip~drop]

Regarding this comment. Don't you think that abusers never change without counseling? Your honest answer. If you would agree then do you think that there is the slightest chance that Cindy also abused Caylee?
The last time anyone saw Caylee, that we know of, was Father's day. How do we know for SURE that something didn't happen in that home and both Casey and Cindy are involved??? They would have had a long time to come up with a story. 31 Days.
Mark Furhman just said on Greta that there is a concensus that she didn't work alone.
Just a thought folks:blowkiss:

The picture of Caylee with her great-grandpa, tonight when I saw it, it struck me that they both look "sad". The picture makes me sad.

 

[not_my_kids]

Hi Wishing tree...
I would like to address the tattoo issue. My fiancee does tattoos for a living, he has tatted for every reason you can imagine. Guilt, celebration, pain, love, rememberance, you name it. I can't say why Casey got that tattoo, I really don't know. But I can say that the most common reasons for tattoos are celebration and rememberance. I really don't want to speculate on why she got that tattoo when she did.
I'll probably get booed for this, but it is a new angle (I think). Her obsession with cerrtain things like stars and pandas and the assertions that Caylee will be home by her 3rd birthday, as well as the weird emotions going on with Casey. Has anyone considered a weird cult? Alienating herself from family, new friends, muted emotional reponse, refusal to talk? Any of this sounding familiar to anyone?

 

[panthera]

Hi Panthera - it's great to have a neighbor with a similar mindset of myself!! :wave: Thank you for your response and I'm glad to see that someone else interpreted the lack of response the same way I did.

All I know is when a family has a loved one, especially a small child, missing, they'll do everything to find that person and not refuse someone's willingness to help. They'll also acknowledge that person's interest. Mark Lunsford comes to mind as I write this.