Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #61

[Wise Old Owl]

Either way - this little girl needs to found - AND SOON. I've said that already. The rate of decomp and in this florida heat. We are quickly approaching (if not already there - depending on where she is) that all that will be found is skeletal - which makes COD next to impossible and that much harder to prove murder. Casey gets charged with neglient homicide or manslaughter - then she pipes up and starts screaming mommie did it or daddy did it - now you have to go to a jury with all this hot mess and no way will they be able to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" and possible all walk free. Casey still has the other charges and I found in another article today that said she could face possible charges in additional cases! Now what's up with that?

 

[TravelingBug]

I don't think the drive by visit on the 24th happened at all.

Nor do I. That's why I'm saying I don't think the 24th can be a determinant of whether or not the car smelled either way. I think it's a cover for his gas can removal from the car mid-July.

And I'd LOVE to know what George and Cindy think about the fact that this gas can elaboration isn't convincing everyone. I think they thought last night's Greta was going to be a sales job on some things, and instead, I think it's caused them FAR more problems and brought up FAR more inconsistencies, netting the opposite effect. LOL.

 

[RoseRed]

He said that he has smelled it before and recognized it in Casey's car....then went on about a squirrell or something. he did say that he has smelled human decomp before.

Thank you, that wasn't said in the first posts I was replying to.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

That's intersting, I missed some messages, can you explain why it didn't happen for you?

Consider the source. Don't believe a word out of their mouths. Their credibility has been shot with me a long time ago.

 

[ShinaLite]

I don't think the drive by visit on the 24th happened at all.

I think because LE has stated there was an 18 minute call between Jesse and Casey on the same day in a very close time period..they will be able to pin point via pings where Casey was..proving or disproving George's statement she was at the house...( not to mention any computer activity that shows her whereabouts too)

it's little things like this that we don't know that leaves the door open on what may or may not have occurred...

we have gotten a lot of info but still probably a small amount compared to what LE knows...if george is lying...they know...I am sure of that

 

[SuziQ]

Link to a couple of good overhead pictures of the back yard. Note the small flags in the ground which I assume mark where the dogs picked up the cadaver scent. See pictures numbers 54, 55, 56, 57 and 58

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...lee-anthonypics-photos,0,6054035.photogallery

Those are great pictures. Thanks for posting this.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Why would he make up her 24th visit?

To CYA because if he did take them out when he got the car back - that's evidence tampering.

 

[impatientredhead]

I think George wanted his gas cans back and took them out of the trunk and put them in the shed. He didn't know at the time Caylee was missing. I bet he had a few words with Casey at the time too! I don't think there is anything sinister there. As far as the smell....denial again and finding the trash and hoping that was the smell...

I agree with this completely and think that the gas cans are the source of what the dogs hit on in the backyard.

 

[TravelingBug]

Why would he make up her 24th visit?

My best guess is to cover for the fact that he removed the gas cans from the car once they got it back from the lot when it DID smell. Many of us posted our theories about that a few threads back (whatever number it was last night, and I think some in the Greta thread also) if you'd like the opinion of some others.

His excessive details, Cindy's antsy-ness while he was talking and jabbing him to stop him, the facebook posting that is done at the same time that Casey supposedly was at the house, etc. all to me scream of fabricated story created after the fact.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I agree with this completely and think that the gas cans are the source of what the dogs hit on in the backyard.

the gas cans were back in the shed and the dogs didn't hit anywhere near the shed.

 

[liltigress]

Why would he make up her 24th visit?

Because if Casey wasn't there on the 24th as he is stating, that would mean that George took the gas cans out of the car after they got it back from the impound, thus a possible cover-up or disturbing evidence.

If there was a dead body in the trunk at any time, anything that was in there would absorb the smell of death. This is probably why they say the pizza smelled like death, and could also be true for the gas cans. If he disturbed a crime scene, he may not like the outcome.

Also by saying she was there on the 24th and this is when he took the gas cans out, he's also providing a partial alibi for Casey that there was nothing odd in the trunk of the car that day.

 

[Leila]

I think Casey may have tried different spots to hide Caylee before finding a good place. That would explain the different hits.

I think that's exactly what happened..............

I think there's a good possibility that whatever happened to Caylee, happened somewhere other than the grandparent's house. I think Casey stashed the body somewhere for two days and then put it in the trunk of her car and proceeded to the grandparent's home with the intention of burying the body there.

I think Casey backed her car into the driveway because she had the body in the trunk. She borrowed the shovel and waited for the neighbor to go into his house.

Then she removed the body, proceeded to the backyard, and laid the body close to where she started digging. She found the digging hard and moved to another location in the yard, moving the body closer to that area. Again, she found the digging hard or an obstacle like tree roots, and moved to yet another location, moving the body again. After about 45 minutes or so, she gave up, returned the shovel, and put the body back into the trunk. This accounts for the cadaver dogs hitting on three locations in the backyard.

When she found she couldn't bury Caylee in her parent's backyard, Casey had to consider other options. She may have left the body in her trunk overnight while she considered other locations.

I think she may have actually disposed of the body on the 19th.

There's no way George opened the trunk of Casey's car on June 24th and found everything "normal" with the exception of finding his missing gas cans.

 

[txsvicki]

I think George wanted his gas cans back and took them out of the trunk and put them in the shed. He didn't know at the time Caylee was missing. I bet he had a few words with Casey at the time too! I don't think there is anything sinister there. As far as the smell....denial again and finding the trash and hoping that was the smell...

The Anthony's were very specific to say that the trash had been closed up in the car for 19 days which would have placed trash in the car after the 24th.

 

[Waddles]

Either way - this little girl needs to found - AND SOON. I've said that already. The rate of decomp and in this florida heat. We are quickly approaching (if not already there - depending on where she is) that all that will be found is skeletal - which makes COD next to impossible and that much harder to prove murder. Casey gets charged with neglient homicide or manslaughter - then she pipes up and starts screaming mommie did it or daddy did it - now you have to go to a jury with all this hot mess and no way will they be able to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" and possible all walk free. Casey still has the other charges and I found in another article today that said she could face possible charges in additional cases! Now what's up with that?

additional cases! woah -well maybe just all the theft or you think more sinister?

 

[Waddles]

To CYA because if he did take them out when he got the car back - that's evidence tampering.

gotcha

 

[Waddles]

My best guess is to cover for the fact that he removed the gas cans from the car once they got it back from the lot when it DID smell. Many of us posted our theories about that a few threads back (whatever number it was last night, and I think some in the Greta thread also) if you'd like the opinion of some others.

His excessive details, Cindy's antsy-ness while he was talking and jabbing him to stop him, the facebook posting that is done at the same time that Casey supposedly was at the house, etc. all to me scream of fabricated story created after the fact.

ah ok, oh dear what a mess

 

[Benji]

If she laid the baby in the sand box, or even close by, wouldn't there have been sand in the trunk of the car if she then put her in there? That would seem like a no brainer for the search people then wouldn't it?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

additional cases! woah -well maybe just all the theft or you think more sinister?

don't know - probably the theft but then again you can't tell with this one. I think we will have another "big" day tomorrow. They said over the weekend that results were due back by the end of next week. - well tomorrow is Thursday - and I believe they have them. There is also a rumor of someone coming forward. We had a poster this morning come on and say there was this "new" person that was coming to come forward and go puiblic today with a whole lot of information. We begged for this person to talk more - they didn't - just left. I thought that was interesting - but now - could it have been someone from Greta's show just plugging - knowing what Fhurman was going to say tonight.

Its late and I'm tired - going to bed.

Like Scarlet said "I can't think about that today. I'll think about that tomorrow"

Nite all

 

[RR0004]

I have been trying to get this info myself. I haven't heard that answered by anyone, maybe I missed it. I haven't heard a thing about where they went for their vacation either.

If this hasn't been answered it was the first week of June 'cause Cindy said it was her 50th bd and that was a milestone so she remembers that and she visited her Dad that Sunday the 8th 'cause she usually always sees her dad every week on Sundays...but golly she can't remember any other information for longer than a day 'cause what ever she says today will change tomorrow!!

 

[Melly53]

Those are great pictures. Thanks for posting this.

Does anyone know exactly when the second cadaver dog was brought into the backyard? I thought I heard Cindy say on Greta that the first dog hit inconsistently which was the reason they called in another dog the next day. If you look at pictures 57 and 58 you can see that they used the top of the sand box to put some of the dirt while they were digging. Had the second dog already been called in before they started digging or after?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...lee-anthonypics-photos,0,6054035.photogallery