Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #61

[liltigress]

A couple of things flash in my mind.

The ladder mention may be another cover-up for Casey. This will give her an excuse.

George's job is fairly new, he didn't have a job on June 16, was that confirmed? If that's so, he was there if something happened to Caylee on that day.

17th is more plausible for something going wrong. Casey tried calling everyone one the day before and was probably arguing with them. Then went into calling mode again on the 18th. By the 20th, she was back on the dance floor, bumping and grinding.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

I don't think she buried her. I think she hid her. However, there was dirt in the trunk (attempt at burying her maybe) I don't think she drove around with her for days. She hid her and went back and got her. Maybe she covered her a bit with dirt to obscure her.

I'm confused now, did the police dig, did the dogs hit in the yard in a specific location? In order to hit on decomp she had to be there for it to be picked up on. I'm unaware of LE hitting anywhere else within the yrd, yet. Either way Decomp takes time, right?

 

[not_my_kids]

I don't think she buried her. I think she hid her. However, there was dirt in the trunk (attempt at burying her maybe) I don't think she drove around with her for days. She hid her and went back and got her. Maybe she covered her a bit with dirt to obscure her.

But where do you hide a body? Not in the trunk, the smell would have been unbearable by the second day. If Goerge and Cindy knew what happened, then she might have hidden her somewhere on the property. If they didn't, then where would hse have put Caylee where she knew she wouldn't be found? Casey doesn't strike me as the type that knows of a lot of nice wooded hiding spots.

 

[blondietx]

She drove Amy's car in July while Amy was in PR (I don't recall those dates). And retrieved the car from impound on Tuesday July 15. This is the day when the ____ hit the fan.

Amy was in PR for a week and got back on 7/15. Casey picked her up from the airport. I'm assuming that she was gone from 7/8-7/15, give or take a day.

 

[txsvicki]

Can a cadaver dog hit on blood that has dripped from a deceased person who is being carried across a yard? Casey could possibly have carried Caylee across the yard to the playhouse then went to the pool to scoop some water and rinse her hands off near the pool. There were the bruises that the hairdresser reported, so it could be possible that Casey beat her child for refusing to lie down and take a nap. The first flurry of phone calls would be about the right time for a toddler's nap.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

wow...really? how is that? interesting!

they have vans equipped. they can park the van and zoom right into your living room - DEA usually uses them - but only sporadically

You should see the room that Dept of HHS has in Washington - they can zoom right into your license plate, home, whatever.

 

[ShinaLite]

By the 20th, she was back on the dance floor, bumping and grinding.

sick isn't it!! :furious:

 

[blondietx]

ita SuziQ...I think LE has had that info for a while..

Yes, probably so. That makes a lot more sense! WE just didn't know. As much as we wish we had every detail, this reminds me that we don't!

 

[not_my_kids]

Can a cadaver dog hit on blood that has dripped from a deceased person who is being carried across a yard? Casey could possibly have carried Caylee across the yard to the playhouse then went to the pool to scoop some water and rinse her hands off near the pool. There were the bruises that the hairdresser reported, so it could be possible that Casey beat her child for refusing to lie down and take a nap. The first flurry of phone calls would be about the right time for a toddler's nap.

I just looked that up, I know that they use at least 3 cc's of blood for the testing of cadaver dogs. I don't know if they can pick up less than that. I'll find the link.

 

[gigi2009]

I agree. I don't think that she would have buried her and then just dug her up the same day. She owuld have had the spot where she was going to put her picked before she dug her up.
If she had stashed her in the trunk, it only would have taken 1 1/2 days for the body to putrefy, if she was buried closer to 4. So, still not sure what to think.

In the Video of the Caey's room she had her bed pushed up against a wall. She could have pt Caylee in a bag tied and hidden her under there. We have central air conditioning in Florida. I would say 90% of the home here do vs window units. It;s reasonable tot hink she could've kept caylee for the day it happened, overnight and then tried to bury her in the yard an realized can't do it for whatever reason. So she lays her down, bag rips on a stick or bamboo. Casey gets car and backs it up to load caylee in the trunk. Now there's fluid leaking out of the bag.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Not me.

I can't see George doing that instead of calling 911 immediately..... although imagining a life without Casey HAS TO BE pretty enticing. lol

And no way would Casey sit in jail missing all those parties to protect her father OR mother.

I still say it's ALL on Casey & her parents just refuse to accept the possibility that Casey would LIE about the death of her own daughter.

They could understand the lies about little things... the stealing.... the wasted life.... they cannot wrap their heads around the fact that she's a monster.

then why did george take those gas cans out and put them back in the shed when that car smelled of death? He knew better - he should have never moved that car from the impound lout and now he's saying he got them back on the 24th when Casey "stopped in" for some clothes. According to timeline - the 24th - it was all pretty much over and that car had to have smelled by then as well.

 

[liltigress]

I'm confused now, did the police dig, did the dogs hit in the yard in a specific location? In order to hit on decomp she had to be there for it to be picked up on. I'm unaware of LE hitting anywhere else within the yrd, yet. Either way Decomp takes time, right?

I thought they said the dogs hit on 3 places.

1. The sandbox with lid on it.
2. The playhouse.
3. The area near the shed?

 

[LI_Mom]

Casey doesn't strike me as the type that knows of a lot of nice wooded hiding spots.

Those types of areas might be very popular with teens who want to drink & party & 'hook up.'

I wonder if any of Caseys friends could confirm whether they used to visit such a place & whether Caylee might be off on some trail near the area?

 

[SuziQ]

I'm reposting this in case it got missed in the previous thread. Here are pictures of the Anthony's backyard. The last two are the most interesting. Make sure you read the captions.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/06/the-back-yard-where-casey-and-caylee-were-living/

 

[TravelingBug]

What do you guys think about them taking the dogs to Tony's? Perhaps Casey would have had something with evidence there or on her own things? Thinking they'd only check at her mom and dads's house?

And I'm wondering about Casey saying she's "safe" as in the body would be intact, as in she didn't do anything to it, and "be home" as in they may be piecing things together (b/c of what she's deduced they're thinking as far as their line of questioning)? And she's saying it knowing people will take it literally?

 

[CheckDaFacts]

A couple of things flash in my mind.

The ladder mention may be another cover-up for Casey. This will give her an excuse.

George's job is fairly new, he didn't have a job on June 16, was that confirmed? If that's so, he was there if something happened to Caylee on that day.

17th is more plausible for something going wrong. Casey tried calling everyone one the day before and was probably arguing with them. Then went into calling mode again on the 18th. By the 20th, she was back on the dance floor, bumping and grinding.

We don't know when George left and when Casey returned or if she actually did leave. Just when we thought we were a tad closer we get more dates for the equation. If 17th day is a down day it makes sense though. I never heard one bit of this on Greta and I watched the whole thing. WT heck.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I'm confused now, did the police dig, did the dogs hit in the yard in a specific location? In order to hit on decomp she had to be there for it to be picked up on. I'm unaware of LE hitting anywhere else within the yrd, yet. Either way Decomp takes time, right?

Yes, I remember eraly on seeing aerial shot from a helicopter of LE digging in the backyard- think it was from one of the local affliate news stations. You could go check those site out for the pics. I remember seeing them digging.

 

[not_my_kids]

In the Video of the Caey's room she had her bed pushed up against a wall. She could have pt Caylee in a bag tied and hidden her under there. We have central air conditioning in Florida. I would say 90% of the home here do vs window units. It;s reasonable tot hink she could've kept caylee for the day it happened, overnight and then tried to bury her in the yard an realized can't do it for whatever reason. So she lays her down, bag rips on a stick or bamboo. Casey gets car and backs it up to load caylee in the trunk. Now there's fluid leaking out of the bag.

Nice theory. But I don't think that Cindy would have held up to that. or agreed. If someone had reported something suspicious about Caylee not being around, then her body would have been found in the house and there would have been no chance of getting out of this.
I know about central air, we have it up here too.

 

[blondietx]

then why did george take those gas cans out and put them back in the shed when that car smelled of death? He knew better - he should have never moved that car from the impound lout and now he's saying he got them back on the 24th when Casey "stopped in" for some clothes. According to timeline - the 24th - it was all pretty much over and that car had to have smelled by then as well.

I still wonder if it did smell but Casey blamed it on carrying trash in her trunk at that point? Which is where he got his BS story about the trash? Possibly? Anyway, he believed her cause that's what they do - hang on Casey's every word. Plus, to his knowledge, Caylee was with Zanny! No alarms were set off - yet!

 

[DianeB]

I can't give any proof, but Mark Fuhrman simply referred to the person as "my source." It was obvious that MF had a list of calls from Casey's cell phone to the person's she called. He could only have gotten that list from someone in LE, or from someone who doesn't want to be identified close to the situation (Lee?). As to the date the shovel was borrowed, it's possible that MF asked the neighbor himself, or someone in LE allowed that info to be leaked. In regards to the gate being open and pool ladder up, we don't know the source of this info either, but I doubt it came from Cindy or George.

I don't question the phone record information - that can be independently verified.

I don't believe the pool ladder story, because I can't think of anyone it could have originated with other than Cindy or George.

Who is it you think could have been the source of this information, if not them?